Orc vs Hum and Orc vs Und

[Andrev_PL]

Witam

Ostatnio wpadłem na pomysł że jak bede grał przeciwko ludziom to se zrobie ze 2 gości którzy wskrzeszają taurenów bo oni mają czar dzięki któremu mogą negować wszystkie zalkęcia z jednostek i zadawać chyba 400 pkt obrażeń przywołanyhm jednostom. I jak gość bedzie grał ludźmi i będzie robił czarownice to bede se spowolnienie likwidował, a jak bedzie grał truoami to mu szkielety bede rozwalał. Tylko jest jeden problem że te jednostyki o których mówie w sumie to sie do niczego nie przydawają jeśli nie masz taurenów.

Co wy na to??

[Q3MaSTeR]

imba lul xD

tylko nie wiem bo jak te czarownice przyleca na miotle czy te czary je dosiegna ;O

[Nekroo]

vs hum orc robi ta tatyke grunty+ shamany+ fs+tc , shamanow uzywa sie na wodniki am poprzez uzywanie purche, a starcze z gawiazd mozna uzyc na tc, którym wbijasz w magow huma i stompem wybijasz all, tylko ze do tego tzreba miec troche dobre micro;) pozatym na spowalnianie dobre jest kupienie "scroll of speed" w sklepie orkow :p trwa krótko ale wystarczy na dobiegniecie do magow i ich wytłuczenie :d, mozesz pozniej zrobic taureny dla dodaku i bloodast dla shamanow + z 2 cata z olwia :D

[Nekroo]

i masz jeszcze repka jak stosuje ta taktyke na huma co robi fe nawet :p

[sakky]

orc is imba, in certain maps almost total noob can make u hard pain in the ass or even win by attack move. not to mention better orc players. worse race against human if u ask me.

btw, best strat is to thumb down as much as maps as u can and hope u ll get lost temple. then just hope u ll get position across ot have advantage against that stupid rush, and being able to establish expo easier:D
and yeah, some maps wage so much against human by items, or because they are small ones. i like plunder, not matter even if opponent is orc, and which means its hard one, i like it. i dont like 2 rivers because it looks more like a free win to orc, much worse than plunder for me. that map should have been removed. its like "booty bay" for NE. and booty bay isnt ladder map because its too much imbalanced (or better say, its balanced for NE only, to have enormous advantage over any other race).

anyway, if u are orc player, just stick to grunts catas FS TC and rush (and few shamans maybe). even noober orc players can have 50+ % score against human that way. if u are good controling, u ll just want to enter certain certain maps to get free win, especially against human.

btw, best map is lost temple. and yeah, lost temple prime league V is also good one:D ok, maybe jungle temple too:D heheeheh.

[brain-o-man]

if u are orc thumb down lost temple map sux :P

against the human do fs tc adept shamans catas grunts

of cource always scout him if u see he is going for Tier 3 make exp and 2 beastery :) try 2 upgrade 2 and ipgrade burows rest is easy :D,adn dont try tower rush..
vs undead i usualy do tower rush ,it usualy works cause they are always teching to tier 3 and trying 2 lame win u ..so u just do the lame thing make 3-9 towers and just start catas and raiders mass
even if he gets frosts with unholy frenzy wont help him :)

[Terrorboy]

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Witam

Ostatnio wpadłem na pomysł że jak bede grał przeciwko ludziom to se zrobie ze 2 gości którzy wskrzeszają taurenów bo oni mają czar dzięki któremu mogą negować wszystkie zalkęcia z jednostek i zadawać chyba 400 pkt obrażeń przywołanyhm jednostom. I jak gość bedzie grał ludźmi i będzie robił czarownice to bede se spowolnienie likwidował, a jak bedzie grał truoami to mu szkielety bede rozwalał. Tylko jest jeden problem że te jednostyki o których mówie w sumie to sie do niczego nie przydawają jeśli nie masz taurenów.

Co wy na to?? Lepiej zagrac FS+TC (chainwave) potem walisz grunty, katapulty i szamanow....a jak masz expo i full kasy to dodaj taurenki+HH z upgradem na 450 zycia:) Druga taktyka (ale wiecej micro wymaga) to wywerny z 2 barakow. Co do tego co napisales to gryfy cie zownuja - ja jak widze pasterzy to od razu air robie;) W dodatku gryfy nadejda szybciej niz taureny i master pasterze wiec raczej lipa;/

[PrisonerOfLies]

Originally posted by sakky
orc is imba, in certain maps almost total noob can make u hard pain in the ass or even win by attack move. not to mention better orc players. worse race against human if u ask me.

btw, best strat is to thumb down as much as maps as u can and hope u ll get lost temple. then just hope u ll get position across ot have advantage against that stupid rush, and being able to establish expo easier:D
btw, best map is lost temple. and yeah, lost temple prime league V is also good one:D ok, maybe jungle temple too:D heheeheh.


U think human alwas wins on LT,lol man good orcs dont let humans make exp so easy......

[sakky]

who said that i do FE in LT? in 99% of my solo games i dont establish FE. short. and yeah, watch carefully and note that its a bit harder to rush opponent in that map (although in depends on where u spawn). thats all.

and yes, human is having some timing changes in that map. watch other maps. human needs to go same strat and have very good timing just to still be matchable. which maps? well, dont know, maybe gnol wood? turtle? 2rivs? and yes, watch plunder isle matchup, u ll get the point of meeting orc there. u need to have very good micro, orc neds attack move. but i like plunder for having easier spots, and u can still make orc being forced to at least scout exp positions. btw, human is establishing exp in the moment u re not expecitng it.

like i said, best strat is to use thumb option and thumb down as much maps u dont like and have bigger chance of getting map where u can go different timing (not strat, cause u ll get rifles again). and even if u get crossed spawn positions in LT, it doesnt mean u ll establish exp and win. u can even establish it, but all human players know what it means to kill few peasant to human, it means u re stuck, no lumber to upgrade or to mass rifles etc. and there is the part where human loses even if opponent didnt succeed to destroy fast exp immediately. thats why i dont like to do fast exping.

no map means that is sure win. it only gives certain advantage to have more different strategies. elf is having many strats in any map, thats why elf is pretty strong. human is having same strat and if u want to be matchable, u ll have to go rifle strat with very very good timing. that strat have to work against any non human race, and its logical that against some races its weak. but when human gets other good strat (or gets moonwells) i ll change strat i m going. untill then, all players wil say "hey allways rifles", not asking themselves why is that so.

[Terrorboy]

After taking few shame losses from good players I also stopped do it.....Just powercreep AM to lvl 2 and back to work:D OFC on 90% he will come with his hero lvl 1 to check/stopped your possible expand and then you have advantage. Expand when MK start the action;)

[sakky]

nah, expand when u find yourself matchable to orc. short. and when u think its time... well that "u think" part goes in playing humans more more and even more. even fatc (guy who is exping all the time) find himself in position where opponent cracks u up, and finds your exp, in the bad moment. well thats the part of the game too.... scouting etc.

[Who_Am_I]

Well i don't see a reason to tumb down LT when you are orc. The map is okay for orc. O vs UD is like a free win in my opinion for ORC. Then hu vs orc i would say it is even and for NE vs ORC maybe little NE advantage but that depends on style of opponent. If he is more creeping orientated then it is like a free win for NE imo :)