Windows discussion.

[TP_MoonStar]

Discuss about everything related to windows here :)

[Cen]

There is a software that makes your XP/Vista look like windows 7.

I will post the link tomorrow, sleepy now. Maybe someone would want to try it.

[MiZiGe]

aaaah, a thread about my daily enemy - t3h windoze :D
never quite understood how it can give so much trouble to so many people...and why do they have to trouble me with it...just because I am in the IT in my company ^^

[IR_Kobolt]

The UAC in Vista is crappy designed... so better get the REAL Windows 7 :D (I won't :-P)

[KeweLi]

There is a software that makes your XP/Vista look like windows 7.

I will post the link tomorrow, sleepy now. Maybe someone would want to try it.

You don't even need a software which will add to your amount of processes. I am using a full theme for Vista that looks exactly like Windows 7. The themes include changing window system files to make explorer and such look even more like it.

[MiZiGe]

I never got this obsession about the windows looks...make your 98 look like XP!
Make your XP look like Vista! Make your Vista look like Windows7!

Gimme a break, and make your DOS look like Windows7

[MaxMadneSS]

http://blip.tv/file/340692/

What you think about Vista? I, personally don't like it at all ...

First the damn yes/no permission whenever u run smth... its just worse then ZoneAlarm
3d interface ? woooow .....
DCS ( Doesn't Catch Shit) :laugh:

and the list goes further but nvm cuz I will stay on XP

[MiZiGe]

vista makes me go grey...and the worst part is, our CEOs decided to start the Vista rollout, even though we all told them to faken wait for Windows7...We will not get Vista out until the end of the year, and by that time, we could have been working on the 7 release...but noooo :D

[Neandertalec]

http://www.365.com.mk/images/stories/menochka/fevruari/win7xp1.png
here is xp transformer pack windows 7
Version 2.0 - Mar 20, 2009

* New: WIP Win7 Visual Style by kspudw
* New: Mod’s Support
* New: Force Reload
* New: NiwradSoft Welcome Center
* New: NiwradSoft Settings
* Improved: 60 EXE, 90 DLL, 6 CPL, 1 OCX, 1 TSP Files
* Improved: Windows Vista Cursors (Temporary)
* Improved: Windows Vista Sounds (Temporary)
* Improved: Windows Vista Fonts (Temporary)
* Fixed: Win7PDC Visual Style Taskbar Button
* Misc: Changed netshell.dll ,wmplayer.exe, wmploc.dll icons
* Misc: Easy customization with Mod’s or Force Reload
* Updated: Win7PDC Visual Style

http://www.niwradsoft.com/blog/seven-remix-xp/

[Cen]

@keweli: yes, themes..

Though I will post some nice addons which simulate the w7 look/work.

[IR_Kobolt]

vista makes me go grey...and the worst part is, our CEOs decided to start the Vista rollout, even though we all told them to faken wait for Windows7...We will not get Vista out until the end of the year, and by that time, we could have been working on the 7 release...but noooo :D
Well, the higher the job, the less knowledge of IT...
One of my neightbours is teacher. They switched from MacOS to Windows Vista after a vote (final vote by the president) - now they've got a crap OS that on one uses (all use XP) and no one gets how it's working (all the teacher used Mac before)...

[Cen]

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Enhancements/Shell-Replacements/Seven-Remix-XP.shtml and same http://www.niwradsoft.com/blog/seven-remix-xp/

and windows se7en transformation pack 2009
(couldn't find a link from some regular site, but google gives many)

If you want drive status bar under you drives in XP (like in vista or w7) you can use this simple software: http://rizeworkshop.blogspot.com/2009/03/vista-drive-status-bar-in-xp.html

all you need is to run it and you're done

[KeweLi]

About the real Windows 7, I heard it will only be released in 2010. And users will have the legal licenses to downgrade to Vista or XP if they buy Windows 7. But 2010 seems far away anyway >.<

[Perito]

Windows 7 Requirements:

- 1 GHz 32-bit or 64-bit processor or higher
- 1 GB of system memory or more
- 16 GB of available disk space
- Support for DirectX 9 graphics with 128 MB memory (to enable the Aero theme)

Windows installation takes 16 GB ! :)

[IR_Kobolt]

Windows installation takes 16 GB ! :)
WTF... That's what my whole system (incl. applications) needs.

[Taz.]

Windows is sax. thats all :D

[KeweLi]

No nabs, I believe 16 gb is the recommended free space at all times.

[Greedy]

Hello everyone, if you are using Win.XP and need a Vista Transformation Pack that is worth something check this one out:
http://www.windowsxlive.net/vista-transformation-pack-9.0.1-its-fixed...

[Keka]

Windows 7 Requirements:


Windows installation takes 16 GB ! :)

Yes it eats your hard drive,
i got 160 GB and after using w7 for sometime,
i got less then 40GB free with only 2-3 games installed and music on on......
And PC started lagging too much...


About the real Windows 7, I heard it will only be released in 2010. And users will have the legal licenses to downgrade to Vista or XP if they buy Windows 7. But 2010 seems far away anyway >.<

Sorry for double posting but i just read this,
someone please just merge it,
@ Keweli,
well they are doing the same now with Vista, if you buy Vista you get legal license for downgrading into XP.

[IR_Kobolt]

;969576']Yes it eats your hard drive,
i got 160 GB and after using w7 for sometime,
i got less then 40GB free with only 2-3 games installed and music on on......
And PC started lagging too much...
If you have something like 4GB of RAM, hd space shouldn't matter.

[Keka]

Well I got 2GB of RAM and I didn't have any kinds of problem,
but now when hd is almost full, its pain in the neck, lags on every command ;O..

[IR_Kobolt]

;969720']Well I got 2GB of RAM and I didn't have any kinds of problem,
but now when hd is almost full, its pain in the neck, lags on every command ;O..
You shouldn't use more than 90% of the diskspace to prevent fragmentation... Oh, its windows, happy defrag :P

[TP_MoonStar]

Most people who say "windows sux" or "windows vista sux" doesnt really know how windows works internaly nor any other os.

I saw some people complaining about directx10 being vista mandatory or w/e..

what most of you dont know is that you can actualy run directx10 series and directx9 series on the same windows ( vista only) and run whathever you used to run from windows xp. There is no compatibility issue from windows xp - vista anymore.

Windows vista run all older games on dx9 layer witch in this case is backward compatible).

PS:Dx10 aint backward compatible however dx10 also incorporate dx9.. its just a matter of howto.

For a howto read bellow :

making sure you have installed Vista SP1 and all updates and fixes after that via WindowsUpdate.
Then install the latest DirectX9.0c (http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/OS-Enhancements/DirectX-9.0c-Redistributable.shtml) (Nov 2008)

dx10 is always update since windows update update dx as well however dx9 you must do it manualy.

Basicaly if you know how to use well windows vista = xp with more tools.

Only linux i like using is F core only.

Ubuntu and other models are just toy for gammers and noob comp users.

[IR_Kobolt]

Most people who say "windows sux" or "windows vista sux" doesnt really know how windows works internaly nor any other os. I do know how a linux works internally, and therefore also some windows components. Ever wondered where the "hosts" file comes from? Windows took the TCP/IP stack directly from BSD (not sure if the've coded their own now).

I saw some people complaining about directx10 being vista mandatory or w/e..
...
Basicaly if you know how to use well windows vista = xp with more tools. As I've got no experience with Vista... n/c ;)

Only linux i like using is F core only.What's that? fedora?

Ubuntu and other models are just toy for gammers and noob comp users. Ubuntu #1 used Linux atm... and it's quite good concerning autoconfig. But it's just damn hard to customize :/

[0cton]

Ubuntu and other models are just toy for gammers and noob comp users.

They say
"When you know Slackware, you know Linux... when you know Red Hat, all you know is Red Hat" Of course Red Hat can be replaced with pretty much any other linux distro out there.

"and other models" considering that linux is open source, can be completely customizable to the point of virtually no difference between them.
what you just claimed was beyond stupid
"and other models" let's say gentoo, slackware, arch linux debian, Suse and many other that exist from when you were still going to kindergarden are just "toy..."

[TP_MoonStar]

They say
"When you know Slackware, you know Linux... when you know Red Hat, all you know is Red Hat" Of course Red Hat can be replaced with pretty much any other linux distro out there.

"and other models" considering that linux is open source, can be completely customizable to the point of virtually no difference between them.
what you just claimed was beyond stupid
"and other models" let's say gentoo, slackware, arch linux debian, Suse and many other that exist from when you were still going to kindergarden are just "toy..."


Mind your words ;) im not stupid.

I used to work with red hat for quite long time and i dont have to explain why most of linux are 'toys' because you obviously just proved to me that you dont quite use those models you mentioned and most of what you know are from ebooks or studying.

PS:i jumped kindergarden, and if you read with caution what i wrote i mentioned UBUNTU and related models.

If i use F core i obviously like red hat overall 'style'.


PS2:Take a step out of the virtual word and you will understand that 'toy' mentioned there means they are used to games mostly since TOY is somenthing you play with it however never said they are incomplete or 'sux' (yes.. that would be the perfect word).

[0cton]

Mind your words ;) im not stupid.

I used to work with red hat for quite long time and i dont have to explain why most of linux are 'toys' because you obviously just proved to me that you dont quite use those models you mentioned and most of what you know are from ebooks or studying.

PS:i jumped kindergarden, and if you read with caution what i wrote i mentioned UBUNTU and related models.

If i use F core i obviously like red hat overall 'style'.


PS2:Take a step out of the virtual word and you will understand that 'toy' mentioned there means they are used to games mostly since TOY is somenthing you play with it however never said they are incomplete or 'sux' (yes.. that would be the perfect word).

Linux has quite an important marketshare in the server world, yes ubuntu made it popular to desktop users but it is still more might even say a lot more prevalent in the server world, and linux sux? it supports more proprietary devices out of the box that windows does, applications rarely crash and if they do it is cause of the proprietary code mostly, and you rarely get a kernel panic, unlike windows whoose presentation screens were full of BSOD.
No I am not reading or studying any ebooks about linux, i have tried suse, I have tried gentoo even did a compile of it, i tried freebsd and a couple of others,but that is still not the point, just cause lately linux distros are used by a lot of inexperienced users doesn't make it a toy look on the server side linux is even used by NASA so your claim simply doesn't stand :) unless you want to become philosophical and claim that our whole life is a a game and we play with knowledge to diverse ourself from our mortal nature than I may agree :)

[Greedy]

Hello everyone, if you don't mind i'll join this discussion and tell you my opinion about it. Before I start, though, let me say that i'm not Anti-Windows or Anti-Linux as well, because most of the people reading pieces like this always assume something of that. I use both, on my home box i use Windows XP because of my intention for the gaming nature which means relaxing while playing (Warcraft III etc.) and chating with friends. On my laptop i run Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy TLS Desktop Edition for business purposes and since i'm on university of electrotechnical science with main object: telecommunications and programming they require from us that we stick with Linux distros rather then Windows.

Both Windows and Linux come in many flavors. All the flavors of Windows come from Microsoft, the various distributions of Linux come from different companies (i.e. Linspire, Red Hat, SuSE, Ubuntu, Xandros, Knoppix, Slackware, Lycoris, etc. ).
Windows has two main lines. The older flavors are referred to as "Win9x" and consist of Windows 95, 98, 98SE and Me. The newer flavors are referred to as "NT class" and consist of Windows NT3, NT4, 2000, XP and Vista. Going back in time, Windows 3.x preceded Windows 95 by a few years. And before that, there were earlier versions of Windows, but they were not popular. Microsoft no longer supports Windows NT3, NT4, all the 9x versions and of course anything older. Support for Windows 2000 is partial.
The flavors of Linux are referred to as distributions (often shortened to "distros"). All the Linux distributions released around the same time frame will use the same kernel (the guts of the Operating System). They differ in the add-on software provided, GUI, install process, price, documentation and technical support. Both Linux and Windows come in desktop and server editions.
There may be too many distributions of Linux, it's possible that this is hurting Linux in the marketplace. It could be that the lack of a Linux distro from a major computer company is also hurting it in the marketplace. IBM is a big Linux backer but does not have their own branded distribution. Currently there seem to be many nice things said about the Ubuntu distribution.
Linux is customizable in a way that Windows is not. For one, the user interface, while similar in concept, varies in detail from distribution to distribution. For example, the task bar may default to being on the top or the bottom. Also, there are many special purpose versions of Linux above and beyond the full blown distributions described above. For example, NASLite is a version of Linux that runs off a single floppy disk (since revised to also boot from a CD) and converts an old computer into a file server. This ultra small edition of Linux is capable of networking, file sharing and being a web server.

Both Linux and Windows provide a GUI and a command line interface. The Windows GUI has changed from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 (drastically) to Windows 2000 (slightly) to Windows XP (fairly large) and is slated to change again with the next version of Windows, the one that will replace XP (Windows 7). Windows XP has a themes feature that offers some customization of the look and feel of the GUI.
Linux typically provides two GUIs, KDE and Gnome. See some screenshots of Lycoris and Lindows in action. The lynucs.org web site has examples of many substantially different Linux GUIs. Of the major Linux distributions, Lindows has made their user interface look more like Windows than the others. Then too, there is a desktop environment (XPde) with a window manager (XPwm) for Linux which really makes Linux look like Windows to make it easier for Windows XP users to use a Linux box.
Mark Minasi makes the point (Windows and .NET magazine) that the Linux GUI is optional while the Windows GUI is an integral component of the OS. He says that speed, efficiency and reliability are all increased by running a server instance of Linux without a GUI, something that server versions of Windows can not do. In the same article he points out that the detached nature of the Linux GUI makes remote control and remote administration of a Linux computer simpler and more natural than a Windows computer.
Is the flexibility of the Linux GUI a good thing? Yes and No. While advanced users can customize things to their liking, it makes things harder on new users for whom every Linux computer they encounter may look and act differently said Michael Horowitz.

When it comes to Text Mode Interface, that is also known as a command interpreter. Windows users sometimes call it a DOS prompt. Linux users refer to it as a shell. Each version of Windows has a single command interpreter, but the different flavors of Windows have different interpreters. In general, the command interpreters in the Windows 9x series are very similar to each other and the NT class versions of Windows (NT, 2000, XP) also have similar command interpreters. There are however differences between a Windows 9x command interpreter and one in an NT class flavor of Windows. Linux, like all versions of Unix, supports multiple command interpreters, but it usually uses one called BASH (Bourne Again Shell). Others are the Korn shell, the Bourne shell, ash and the C shell (pun, no doubt, intended).

For desktop or home use, Linux is very cheap or free, you can download Linux for free from each of the Linux vendors, Windows is expensive, either for server use, Linux is very cheap compared to Windows. Microsoft allows a single copy of Windows to be used on only one computer. Starting with Windows XP, they use software to enforce this rule (Windows Product Activation at first, later Genuine Windows). In contrast, once you have purchased Linux, you can run it on any number of computers for no additional charge. The irony here is that Windows rose to dominance, way back when, in large part by undercutting the competition (Macs) on cost. Now Linux may do the same thing to Windows.When it comes to deal with viruses, worms, Spyware, etc. a big advantage goes to Linux here.

You can read many articles and eBooks about which OS is the best or why it's no.1 in the comparison to others telling why the one sux and other not but i think that it depends on the user it self to decide about that regarding his expirience and his own needs.

[0cton]

first of I'd like to point that KDE and GNOME are Desktop environements and not GUIs :)
linux distros are the strenght of linux IMHO, as they allow pretty much ~ everyone, in case they need to to make their own distro suited for their needs, witch is ussualy not needed since pretty much they are already distros for pretty much every need :)
Linux Distros are always free the non free part comes from proprietary code/stuff inside it ex (lindows it's icons and sounds aren't open source as-well as some of their programs) and ussualy server linux distros cost money for the technical support the companies allow, you pay more for a service than for the distro itself but of course proprietary tools cost money as-well
There is no best in general just the best for a purpose witch basically comes to the best for a user :)

[KeweLi]

Greedy, next time you copy and paste something off the internet, make sure you state your source...

Anyway, paying for editions of Linux is stupid. It should remain free and open-source for people who would like to try something other than Windows.

[0cton]

well ussualy people pay for services and technical support and for proprietary tools that come with the distro.
But some people abuse the license and sell open source software like check ebay,people sell there open-office and gimp and other software as-well ,people must be that stupid since a google-away you find that it's free XD but as they say a sucker is born every minute :)

[Greedy]

Greedy, next time you copy and paste something off the internet, make sure you state your source...


Though you know that, anyway my source is the mother of internet; http://wikipedia.org and i c/ped only some parts that i agree with.

[KeweLi]

Hmm.. let me see:


Hello everyone, if you don't mind i'll join this discussion and tell you my opinion about it. Before I start, though, let me say that i'm not Anti-Windows or Anti-Linux as well, because most of the people reading pieces like this always assume something of that. I use both, on my home box i use Windows XP because of my intention for the gaming nature which means relaxing while playing (Warcraft III etc.) and chating with friends. On my laptop i run Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy TLS Desktop Edition for business purposes and since i'm on university of electrotechnical science with main object: telecommunications and programming they require from us that we stick with Linux distros rather then Windows.



Both Windows and Linux come in many flavors. All the flavors of Windows come from Microsoft, the various distributions of Linux come from different companies (i.e. Linspire, Red Hat, SuSE, Ubuntu, Xandros, Knoppix, Slackware, Lycoris, etc. ).
Windows has two main lines. The older flavors are referred to as "Win9x" and consist of Windows 95, 98, 98SE and Me. The newer flavors are referred to as "NT class" and consist of Windows NT3, NT4, 2000, XP and Vista. Going back in time, Windows 3.x preceded Windows 95 by a few years. And before that, there were earlier versions of Windows, but they were not popular. Microsoft no longer supports Windows NT3, NT4, all the 9x versions and of course anything older. Support for Windows 2000 is partial.
The flavors of Linux are referred to as distributions (often shortened to "distros"). All the Linux distributions released around the same time frame will use the same kernel (the guts of the Operating System). They differ in the add-on software provided, GUI, install process, price, documentation and technical support. Both Linux and Windows come in desktop and server editions.
There may be too many distributions of Linux, it's possible that this is hurting Linux in the marketplace. It could be that the lack of a Linux distro from a major computer company is also hurting it in the marketplace. IBM is a big Linux backer but does not have their own branded distribution. Currently there seem to be many nice things said about the Ubuntu distribution.
Linux is customizable in a way that Windows is not. For one, the user interface, while similar in concept, varies in detail from distribution to distribution. For example, the task bar may default to being on the top or the bottom. Also, there are many special purpose versions of Linux above and beyond the full blown distributions described above. For example, NASLite is a version of Linux that runs off a single floppy disk (since revised to also boot from a CD) and converts an old computer into a file server. This ultra small edition of Linux is capable of networking, file sharing and being a web server.

Both Linux and Windows provide a GUI and a command line interface. The Windows GUI has changed from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 (drastically) to Windows 2000 (slightly) to Windows XP (fairly large) and is slated to change again with the next version of Windows, the one that will replace XP (Windows 7). Windows XP has a themes feature that offers some customization of the look and feel of the GUI.
Linux typically provides two GUIs, KDE and Gnome. See some screenshots of Lycoris and Lindows in action. The lynucs.org web site has examples of many substantially different Linux GUIs. Of the major Linux distributions, Lindows has made their user interface look more like Windows than the others. Then too, there is a desktop environment (XPde) with a window manager (XPwm) for Linux which really makes Linux look like Windows to make it easier for Windows XP users to use a Linux box.
Mark Minasi makes the point (Windows and .NET magazine) that the Linux GUI is optional while the Windows GUI is an integral component of the OS. He says that speed, efficiency and reliability are all increased by running a server instance of Linux without a GUI, something that server versions of Windows can not do. In the same article he points out that the detached nature of the Linux GUI makes remote control and remote administration of a Linux computer simpler and more natural than a Windows computer.
Is the flexibility of the Linux GUI a good thing? Yes and No. While advanced users can customize things to their liking, it makes things harder on new users for whom every Linux computer they encounter may look and act differently.

When it comes to Text Mode Interface, that is also known as a command interpreter. Windows users sometimes call it a DOS prompt. Linux users refer to it as a shell. Each version of Windows has a single command interpreter, but the different flavors of Windows have different interpreters. In general, the command interpreters in the Windows 9x series are very similar to each other and the NT class versions of Windows (NT, 2000, XP) also have similar command interpreters. There are however differences between a Windows 9x command interpreter and one in an NT class flavor of Windows. Linux, like all versions of Unix, supports multiple command interpreters, but it usually uses one called BASH (Bourne Again Shell). Others are the Korn shell, the Bourne shell, ash and the C shell (pun, no doubt, intended).

For desktop or home use, Linux is very cheap or free, you can download Linux for free from each of the Linux vendors, Windows is expensive, either for server use, Linux is very cheap compared to Windows. Microsoft allows a single copy of Windows to be used on only one computer. Starting with Windows XP, they use software to enforce this rule (Windows Product Activation at first, later Genuine Windows). In contrast, once you have purchased Linux, you can run it on any number of computers for no additional charge. The irony here is that Windows rose to dominance, way back when, in large part by undercutting the competition (Macs) on cost. Now Linux may do the same thing to Windows. When it comes to deal with viruses, worms, Spyware, etc. a big advantage goes to Linux here.

You can read many articles and eBooks about which OS is the best or why it's no.1 in the comparison to others telling why the one sux and other not but i think that it depends on the user it self to decide about that regarding his expirience and his own needs.

Know why it is so easy to spot? Because there is a huge difference in English and intellegence.

[Greedy]

Hmm.. let me see:



Know why it is so easy to spot? Because there is a huge difference in English and intellegence.

I say "Reading is the key". // M.Horowitz wrote a nice article that i agree with when it comes to comparison of OS and i updated it a little adding my opinion to it, anyway he took some of the info from Wikipedia as well, check his blog Computerworld. There are always people that have enough free time to play around with stuff like testing software,etc. and then at the end write an
article about it, where you can google it and find their info on Wikipedia or any other site with eBooks containing their info, some of it maybe false but reading it makes you understand some sort of things that help you to conclude about it in a more different way then you though before. I don't know why you care so much about the source of information at all, you should focus more on the information and try to learn something rather then
critisize people about their grammar or intelligence thinking that they don't know a sh** about they talk,let me tell you that you are wrong and grammar doesn't matter at all, it's ok as long as you can understand it since we are not in school.

[0cton]

You realize that there exists information so general that you don't need to take it from wikipedia to know it?
Therefore you can't claim he took it from wikipedia, it can be the other way arround, and wikipedia is no the only online encyclopedia out there <.<
BTW: your leetspeak in the location doesn't suit that field, you should change it to normal text if you want to be taken serious.

[ss-darky]

i use vista x64 and it works great. had no problems with it since installation. i do have a monster of computer though mby that's the reason it runs so smooth. imo if u got the hardware go vista since it's much more efficient and fast than xp. and if u don't like that whole Allow/Disallow stuff u can disable the UAC fairly easy and u won't be bothered anymore.

[Cen]

Windows 7 coming out on 22. October for retail.

[Cen]

Does anyone know how could I add custom shortcuts/directories in Windows 7 menus (like Open menu and explorer in general, menu on the left (Documents, My Computer, Images etc etc)).

I would seriously like to have a custom folder to appear on that menu, because I use it very often and need to navigate instead.

Google says nothing because I'm not even sure how to express myself in search.

[MiZiGe]

what you are looking for is the explorer (shell) context menu, or the customisation of it.

Here (http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/how-to-clean-up-your-messy-windows-context-menu/) is a pretty default guide to it; all in all, the menu is created and managed through the windows registry.
It should be easy to google tools that can do this for you, e.g. right-click (http://www.thewindowsclub.com/right-click-context-menu-extender-for-windows-7-released), filemenu tools (http://www.lopesoft.com/en/fmtools/info.html), and so on. I just gave you two options I found through google, I have no experience with them

[Cen]

not the menus but:
http://www.shrani.si/f/2z/Tw/RJbLXDD/trololol.png

[Herr]

Click on Priljubljene and paste a shortcut of your folder (with right click), it will appear under the star menu; or

Add new Knjižnice or edit a current one to target desired folder.

[Cen]

lawl, how I didn't see this

and herrzor explaining in my own language

<3

[nerf_me^^]

I installed win7 and i just got MORE PROBLEMS:@@@@@

[Cen]

Like what?

[nerf_me^^]

Administrator rights.
Can't play on battle.net
I need to reinstall everything i had, c++, python and stuff and they need the serial number, which i don't have anymore.
And many many many more

[OsiRyS]

Windows 7 is best OS ever built till now

[Cen]

Windows 7 is best OS ever built till now

Yes, but on the other hand, if I would be in need to get an OS for a new computer atm, the only thing holding me back from getting Linux would be games. If games ever start to come out for linux platforms, I could say windows goodbye forever easily.

[OsiRyS]

I think this is a matter of marketing,windows was promoted better and has an interface more friendly than linux

[Cen]

WIndows 8 developer preview avalible http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/download

You can get the ISO and try it in virtualbox

[Lohan]

W7 is a nice OS...
What W8 can bring better?

[Cen]

Micosoft will remove MSN messenger and replace it completely with Skype in first quarter of 2013. Jump off the ship before it's too late.

[Akhe]

srsly...? where did you see it

[Cen]

googlle it, it is confirmed

I think you will be able to transfer your contacts directly.

[[RO]Claudiu]

windows live sucks anyway, its too big and flashy.

@ topic, im on windows 8 since like 2 months now and the only thing i dont like about it is the fact that some flash player videos lag, in fact most of them take my cpu to 50% dunno why.