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RockYz*4
24th December 2004, 07:58 PM
Well i am kinda confused by laddering, i got some lag during day time etc. so i thought about "Lets make some fun!", like creating new strats etc., so need ur help if u got some ideas, some crazy ideas, not like " I massed @#!towers in my base teched to bloody taurens and owned NE archers. Need some crazy strats, like neutral hero with casters with UD etc., well just wrote it here and i will see if i can get some nice idea...and create maybe some strat or just funny replay at all...all comments needed, and i go to work on some strat now, hope you'll enjoy my series
ur abuser
RockY

aka: BlindFly (http://www.battle.net/war3/ladder/W3XP-player-profile.aspx?Gateway=Northrend&PlayerName=BlindFly)

Strats:
Xmass trees (http://w3.xpam.de/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7939)
Advanced burrow rush (http://w3.xpam.de/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7941)

GoD_Of_WaR
24th December 2004, 08:56 PM
i want to see some crazy killer strats btw i like Jackson much :D

RockYz*4
24th December 2004, 09:00 PM
Well the idea is not create uberpowerfull perfect strat, it will be just funny strats( and mostly CRAZY)...so maybe u can just take some ideas, change it and make it uberpowerfull :D

Sky][RunneR-
24th December 2004, 09:03 PM
I got CDs home from Michael Jackson and really love them .... btw. gad of var ti si nogo istrebano tipce.

Arie-
24th December 2004, 11:03 PM
Dual Tinker mass t1.

RockYz*4
24th December 2004, 11:21 PM
dual tinker? u mean in AT?

Metalix
24th December 2004, 11:33 PM
mk paladin bloodmage vs undead .. banish stun holy and a little flame ... strike ..

Terrorboy
24th December 2004, 11:36 PM
hmmm....harras with invisible bloodmage+staff of teleport and boots speed then go mass human air (gryphs, hawks,gyros) or mortar teams..... for sure very funy strategy^^ ofc I dont play it on ladder game:) more funny in team games with 2-3 bloodmages:p ops I forgot vs UD high lvl pall is also ultra funny:)

Metalix
24th December 2004, 11:37 PM
level 3 x hammer WooWW ... mk has bigger axe then his hole body Tt :) = 300 damage Tt ... holy 3x level 300 damage UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU fast enogh to not have time to hit the TP ... banish UUUUUUUUUUUUU that thing rox no cooldown TT DEAD MEAT !!! hahah .. flame strike ? 225 damage UUUUUUU deeeeeeeaaaaaaaaad added ? 300 + 300 + 225 = 825 * 75 % !? TASTE THAT !

Metalix
24th December 2004, 11:39 PM
blood mage first hero .. take a zeppelin .. put down the treese wich are behind the gold mine .. build some towers .. and he is dead :P

Terrorboy
24th December 2004, 11:40 PM
Hey Marsh its wrong: bolt 350 + HL 300 + flame 225....=875......+banish=875*1.75= 1300 about^^vs heroes 66%=866?

RockYz*4
24th December 2004, 11:44 PM
hm maybe do it with banish+siphon mana+bolt+holy light, well i think it could be good

Terrorboy
25th December 2004, 12:43 AM
for me its a little theorycraft....I tried it and it didnt work:( but i did it in 1.16 patch, no 1.17. BTW its easy to conter by Ud player-just put antimagic shield on heroes and try them nuke then;)

Arie-
25th December 2004, 01:12 AM
Originally posted by RockYz*4
dual tinker? u mean in AT? yes, AT. It actually WORKS. The game ends in 6 minutes, but be warned - the enemy will be extremely frustrated :D

RockYz*4
25th December 2004, 01:28 AM
well arie- i wanna create something new and crazy!!, well yes i saw once those dual tinkers in AT...but i wanna do mainly solo strats ^^

Tango
25th December 2004, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by RockYz*4
hm maybe do it with banish+siphon mana+bolt+holy light, well i think it could be good

maybe it should be like banish, stun, coil, shadow strike, frost nova, shockwave, mana burn, coil again :), focus with 10 chims, 10 gryphons, 5 frosts. That hero must be dead after all these. If not, coil again :D

Btw yes I enjoyed your replays, but they were all noobs ;)

Demonhide_PT
25th December 2004, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by Tango
maybe it should be like banish, stun, coil, shadow strike, frost nova, shockwave, mana burn, coil again :), focus with 10 chims, 10 gryphons, 5 frosts. That hero must be dead after all these. If not, coil again :D

Btw yes I enjoyed your replays, but they were all noobs ;)

LOL:D

ok, i have this crazy, a bit theory, and ...... crazy..... strat to use with elfs:


Your going to need time and patience to amass a large Ancient Protector army, but when your enemy see a walking forest heading towards his town, he'll probably pooped his pants.

You want a massive force of Ancient Protectors and slowly ramble their way across into your opponants base. Using supporting wisps to heal your Ancient Protectors when they are attacked. The beauty is when they actually get there, they can then root down and start throwing rocks, which will do some serious damage.

Requirements:):
- Several archers, to support the treants
- Wisps
- KOGT with treant ability
- If u have the oportunity, Nature's Blessing would help a lot
- Hunter's Hall
- PATIENCE!

Tango
25th December 2004, 11:21 AM
Comparing their hp to their movement speed, Id say it wont be a good tactic. It all depends on speed here, so even u build 100 protectors in your base and start moving on out there, once your enemy understands what u r up to, he/she will counter it with some siege power easily, which will disappoint u when u r on your half way to his/her base.
I had tried some tricks like that once, they worked too (so so), but against good players I dont think that u will achive victory that easily. Rockyz should try that against madfrog or grubby or so, so we can understand if its imbalance or not.

EDIT: Btw I watched some replays, in which orc was tower rushing an NE, NE losing his main base, but doing a great comeback and winning the match. Even this forum has a replay like that. Check it out. It shouldnt be so hard to prevent it anyways. But surely, the ones we see in here r done way too earlier than the ones I had watched.

Arie-
25th December 2004, 11:45 AM
i have a fun strat: build everything as usuall, when the first fight comes try to kill his hero. Whenever u kill him, pause the game and say: HAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D

[1]kaiser
25th December 2004, 12:06 PM
what do you say about mass priests and paladin ?
Only magic-breaking units can beat this army

RockYz*4
25th December 2004, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by Tango
maybe it should be like banish, stun, coil, shadow strike, frost nova, shockwave, mana burn, coil again :), focus with 10 chims, 10 gryphons, 5 frosts. That hero must be dead after all these. If not, coil again :D

Btw yes I enjoyed your replays, but they were all noobs ;)

yes i know, for sure i dont wanna create some complete strat with everything +\- (thats lot of work) rather create some funny replay\game, and u can maybe improve it ^^

Originally posted by Demonhide_PT
LOL

ok, i have this crazy, a bit theory, and ...... crazy..... strat to use with elfs:


Your going to need time and patience to amass a large Ancient Protector army, but when your enemy see a walking forest heading towards his town, he'll probably pooped his pants.

You want a massive force of Ancient Protectors and slowly ramble their way across into your opponants base. Using supporting wisps to heal your Ancient Protectors when they are attacked. The beauty is when they actually get there, they can then root down and start throwing rocks, which will do some serious damage.

Requirements:
- Several archers, to support the treants
- Wisps
- KOGT with treant ability
- If u have the oportunity, Nature's Blessing would help a lot
- Hunter's Hall
- PATIENCE!

well u need a lot of patience for sure ^^, i think its better to create them in fron of enemies building (maybe in night, create them outside of vision), well they are so slowwww to walk from ur base etc.. and siege will come for sure (he have lot of time)

-TANGO GOT MY IDEA =)

Originally posted by Arie-
i have a fun strat: build everything as usuall, when the first fight comes try to kill his hero. Whenever u kill him, pause the game and say: HAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

haha yes, i have those mental strats also in my list of "try to use" :P

Originally posted by [1]kaiser
what do you say about mass priests and paladin ?
Only magic-breaking units can beat this army
piercing too, but whatever, i will give it a look =]

-thx guys nice ideas, and remember my strats are not gosu only for fun ^^

brain-o-man
26th December 2004, 06:06 AM
well i made 13-13 with a human tower rush,with no hero ,if it doesnt work,mass mortars with invisibility and pala ^^

LordAlucard
2nd January 2005, 10:51 PM
ArchMage+BloodMage+PitLord (with AoE spells) combined with adept sorceress invisibility could be annoying near enemy's gold mine.;)

Gaizk
12th January 2005, 07:15 AM
2 rangers heros . 2 undead players . each with a rod . do a nice early rush with 2 or 3 ghouls and enjoy the power of skellys ( watchout imbalanced wisps . they have imbalanced early dispel and imbalanced mana burn for imbalanced early beggining ,. imbalanced cost n time for an imbalanced unit , wich also is imbalanced , i hate imbalanced wisps btw and wala , u GOT him

Arie-
12th January 2005, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Gaizk
2 rangers heros . 2 undead players . each with a rod . do a nice early rush with 2 or 3 ghouls and enjoy the power of skellys ( watchout imbalanced wisps . they have imbalanced early dispel and imbalanced mana burn for imbalanced early beggining ,. imbalanced cost n time for an imbalanced unit , wich also is imbalanced , i hate imbalanced wisps btw and wala , u GOT him No those few ghouls will die before you can make a few skellys. Im more advanced in this strat and i know that the strength in the DR is the high levels which can be achieved very fast because with the dr u can creep as fast as with a rocket oO.

Gaizk
17th January 2005, 07:17 PM
Try me ....


thres sheeps alla long the way , THATS a nice place to use the rod

brain-o-man
17th January 2005, 08:51 PM
not on all maps :p

becks[07]
1st February 2005, 02:26 PM
hehe wanna see imbalanced strategy with undead,go see this

very nice combo vs orc which dont require any micro http://eurobattle.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=8816

watch.enjoy then comment :P