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WhiteAngel10
12th August 2008, 12:51 PM
well , as you know , clockwerk is a fast moving hero with mass STR and HP (less in 6.54b) but it is still ok......so there are 3 paths for clockwerk.....adding STR items , or adding MS items , or half of both xD (i prefer the STR items most for late game) so:

Adding STR items like 2Hearts , BloodStone , 2 Vanguard and Power Threads would make clockwerk with 5500+HP at lvl 25 and str 80+120 with GREAT regen so it's the best for clockwerk

Adding MS items (i reached 514 ms with those) S&Y , Sange , Scepter of Divinity , Boots of Travel , Lothars Edge (reaching 522 with wind walk) and a Bracer OR another Scepter of Divinty so you will have permanently MAX MS (522)

Adding Hybrid items (STR/MS) Boots of Travel (Or Power Threads Cheaper) , S&Y , 2 Bracer 1 Heart and the last slot is of your choice.

(i reccoment to use the STR build as it is the best for late game , MS build is good only on early game....untill lvl 16 , it is good coz you can use battery Assault and chase the enemy withought problems , because at later game the battery assault won't be enough to kill a STR hero [it may be useful on AGI heros or INT heros as they have low hp])

Now for the skills , if you want to reach lvl 16 (neither you are solo or not) before the others reach lvl 12-14 , make like me :
always when i start i start with a boot and 2 clarity (you may laugh because 2 clarty but believe me it works) , add the 3rd skill (Rocket Flare) and max it (while on lvl 2,4,6 max the first skill Battery Assault) and spam the Rocket Flare untill you don't have mana and no clarity potions, (you should be lvl 8 untill then) so you go back to base and you may have at least 1600 gold , (by killing creeps with rocket flares and killing heros with spaming rocket flares and using battery assault when they have low hp) so you buy 2 tangos , 2 clarity and teleport back to the tower (you will have 1400 gold then) , now you have rocket flare lvl 4 with cooldown 15 seconds and 200 dmg and it costs only 50 mana so you can spam it like hell , and battery assalut lvl 4 with 80dmg/s so you can **** the enemies and the hookshot with 2000 range O_o so it'l be VERY easy now , if they gang you , try to escape with battery assault (if somebody gets near you , you can ministun him) and get back to the base , you may have at least 3000 gold , buy boots of travel (wow) and gauntlets of strength (if you have enough gold buy the axe with 10str) and keep it like that untill you have S&Y , then you are free to choose neighter being a STR hero or a MS hero or BOTH :clap:

i hope this tutorial helped and sorry for that long post. if you have another ideas for Clockwerk build please share it with us :beer:

klemen
12th August 2008, 01:01 PM
Ss mod reply will look olike this: Don't kill creeps with spells lol!

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Well, I don't think mass flare is good. Reaching level ok, but clock is very good gankster. His stuns are almost perma stun and you chase easily. Same for generators.

It needs some str items, and I saw lots of ppl to go vladi. Str is basicaly all it needs, because his att speed is already good and with stuns, you don't even need fast ms.

NoR3MoR53
12th August 2008, 02:05 PM
Mine build for Clockwerk is:Radi should be rushed cuz if u know how to properly use his first spell u dont need the ms in start,then go for BoT to take the ms aspect to the higher lvl,then go BKB,then go for a hart. All in all a unique hero.

VamoS_GringO
12th August 2008, 02:07 PM
always when i start i start with a boot and 2 clarity (you may laugh because 2 clarty but believe me it works)

something is wrong,don't you think we should laugh at something else here?
assault,radi,heart,shiva-are all great on him (even s&y :D).Hes not that item dependent so your item build can vary,depending on the whole game situation.

Tkc]Fear
12th August 2008, 02:24 PM
Oh yea this is guy with apem ro godlike servers. : )

Your build looks incredible I will sure try it XD

Anyway I make Radiance Heart Sange and Travel.

R4zieI
12th August 2008, 02:33 PM
"he has enough att speed"
naab...
he is almost as slow as pudge or tiny, so how the hell can you say his IAS is enough...
Anyways, i try to opt for IAS and ofc Helm of Dominator, rest always depends on the -ma...

WhiteAngel10
12th August 2008, 02:51 PM
"he has enough att speed"
naab...
he is almost as slow as pudge or tiny, so how the hell can you say his IAS is enough...
Anyways, i try to opt for IAS and ofc Helm of Dominator, rest always depends on the -ma...
lol....
first : what's "naab"?
second : he is slow as pudge an tiny?.....clockwerk has 310 base move speed , and pudge/tiny have 285 base move speed....and Helm of the Dominator on clockwerk ? .... that's really interesting......

@Tkc]Fear : Oh yea this is guy with apem ro godlike servers. nice offtopic :) anyway you and life drainer won't ever understand that you aren't the best DotA players on the earth....btw just to let you know...i remember that i played once with you...and you were the worst player on that server....if i knew that you were here i wold've saved that replay and post it here...anyway enough with offtopics :shh: let's talk about clockwerk , lol

@klemen :i don't say to kill creeps with spell lol....you are forced to kill creeps with this kind of spells (AOE) and it is logical...you actually use spell on enemy heroes and it dameges creeps also , so that's why AOE is cool :clap:

klemen
12th August 2008, 03:13 PM
@att speed

It's att speed is preety much faster then most of other str heroes.

Silver.
12th August 2008, 04:00 PM
The best solution and not so "expensive" that i almost always make is : Travel Vladimir S&Y.After that if i have money i build a burriza or HoT.

Tkc]Fear
12th August 2008, 04:45 PM
lol....
first : what's "naab"?
second : he is slow as pudge an tiny?.....clockwerk has 310 base move speed , and pudge/tiny have 285 base move speed....and Helm of the Dominator on clockwerk ? .... that's really interesting......

Naab is people who play Apem Godlike servers.

Yea that's really interesting.



@Tkc]Fear : nice offtopic :) anyway you and life drainer won't ever understand that you aren't the best DotA players on the earth....btw just to let you know...i remember that i played once with you...and you were the worst player on that server....if i knew that you were here i wold've saved that replay and post it here...anyway enough with offtopics :shh: let's talk about clockwerk , lol

Nice try shame you fail.

Replay pl0x?



@klemen :i don't say to kill creeps with spell lol....you are forced to kill creeps with this kind of spells (AOE) and it is logical...you actually use spell on enemy heroes and it dameges creeps also , so that's why AOE is cool :clap:

If you had any brains you would use his skill so it doesn't damage creeps and does full damage to hero.

Anyway that is too much to expect from you.

Go play Apem Godlike servers pl0x...

LifeDrainer[RO]
12th August 2008, 05:01 PM
cut the offtopic

the thing is that clockwerk can pwn (noob players ofc) in pubs w/o so expensive items....

WhiteAngel10
12th August 2008, 05:27 PM
as i thought Tkc]Fear.......as i thought.......you're an idiot and you will be for the rest of you life........If you had any brains you would use his skill so it doesn't damage creeps and does full damage to hero.
wow....you are really stupid....i swear....you better think b4 writing coz you are a shame believe me it is sad but true.....anyway i don't care if you understand or not , but believe me or not , this is the true....:tiphat:

@[BoS]Silver The best solution and not so "expensive" that i almost always make is : Travel Vladimir S&Y.After that if i have money i build a burriza or HoT.nice it is a good build for clockwerk also , but why vladimir? clockwerk is a STR hero with mass STR (hp regen) so you won't need lifesteal for it, and same with buriza....why critical? it is right that he is one of the fastest attacking STR heroes but it is still slow for buriza....i mean buriza is made for AGI heroes (fast attacks):cool:

YoP.Shinigami
12th August 2008, 05:48 PM
And you are seriously saying, that hp regen > leech in battles? If so, then I have to question you're judgement, and basic dota knowledge. I ain't saying that vlad is imba pr0, but if u have more melée heroes in team why not? bonus armour, life leech and some more mana regen.
And on topic starter, Dual Heart. Dual Vanguard. Bloodstone. Powertreads. What games do u play????? single player with -gold xxx? Either that or u farm all game long, not ganking even once, and taking on the role as carry, cuz u cant gank, push and get those items at the same time, imo kthnxbai

WhiteAngel10
12th August 2008, 06:15 PM
yeah you're actually right...those items are all expensive , but it's not impossible to make them in late games , specially for clockwerk , he is very good early hero with mass dmg skills and nice HP , example : did you know that Battery Assault at lvl 4 does 1200 dmg? and every second gives opponent ministuns? so he has no chance to escape , only if his allies stuns clockwerk , but in 1v1 he is imba , so you can make very much gold from killing heroes and creeps with it , as i mentioned up , btw i will post some pictures with the guide up and show you the items and the score that i get at the finish , if i have time :thumbUP: peace

Tkc]Fear
12th August 2008, 06:27 PM
as i thought Tkc]Fear.......as i thought.......you're an idiot and you will be for the rest of you life........ wow....you are really stupid....i swear....you better think b4 writing coz you are a shame believe me it is sad but true.....anyway i don't care if you understand or not , but believe me or not , this is the true....:tiphat:

I feel really hurt by these words.

How bout we do 1v1 ? ; ]


@[BoS]Silver nice it is a good build for clockwerk also , but why vladimir? clockwerk is a STR hero with mass STR (hp regen) so you won't need lifesteal for it, and same with buriza....why critical? it is right that he is one of the fastest attacking STR heroes but it is still slow for buriza....i mean buriza is made for AGI heroes (fast attacks):cool:

High STR = High DMG = High Crit

I made it so simple for you to understand.

yeah you're actually right...those items are all expensive , but it's not impossible to make them in late games , specially for clockwerk , he is very good early hero with mass dmg skills and nice HP , example : did you know that Battery Assault at lvl 4 does 1200 dmg? and every second gives opponent ministuns? so he has no chance to escape , only if his allies stuns clockwerk , but in 1v1 he is imba , so you can make very much gold from killing heroes and creeps with it , as i mentioned up , btw i will post some pictures with the guide up and show you the items and the score that i get at the finish , if i have time :thumbUP: peace

I can't wait to see your guide pictures : )

Perhaps you choose Clockwerk in 1v1? : )

EDIT :

We played....he left after I kill him not even worth watching but w/e.

WhiteAngel10
12th August 2008, 07:04 PM
I feel really hurt by these words. i know and i am glad that you revealed the truth at last :clap:

High STR = High DMG = High Crit

I made it so simple for you to understand.
High AGI = High DMG +High attack speed = High Crit and MUCH Fast

I made it more simple than ever for you to understand.

EDIT :
We played....he left after I kill him not even worth watching but w/e. We played .... i was killed because his lag...i had delay because him ... i told him i will host because i have better net than you ...... he laugh then i told him the Game Name , made the server , PMed him and WHAT : logged off.
that's the proof that you don't even dare to say the truth , you just laugh coz you're a noob...that's why you told me that YOU host....because you are laggy and you won't have lag coz you're hosting but the others will have lag :) that's what i had to say for a noob like you

EDIT 2 : i randomed my hero and you played with your favorite hero (Troll) , that's the best proof that you're a noob....

fatman69
13th August 2008, 03:11 PM
i know and i am glad that you revealed the truth at last :clap:


High AGI = High DMG +High attack speed = High Crit and MUCH Fast

I made it more simple than ever for you to understand.




high agi means high attack speed, on STR hero (like Clockwerk), agi has no meaning in damage, only Strength counts.

i believe this hero should be played as tank, you can make radiance if u manage to rush it, if not, a simple bottle would suffice for his mana problems, and tanking is the best way to go. i really don't like this hero although most of the people think he's imba. ok most of the >Godlike Pubzor< nabs like WhiteAngel10.

man this guy is like a reincarnation of KingLevoriks (or w/e it was spelled) only a lot more annoying, egoistic and irritating...

Tkc]Fear
13th August 2008, 03:28 PM
man this guy is like a reincarnation of KingLevoriks (or w/e it was spelled) only a lot more annoying, egoistic and irritating...

:beer: You made my day

NoR3MoR53
16th August 2008, 06:56 PM
WhiteAngel needs treatment.Every and i mean every thread u make becomes a flaming and a spaming topic.Let me remind u the point of this is to learn discus different opinions and get the best out of it.NOT TO FLAME. And whiteangel ur a fail in every single way. Clockwerk=Pubstomper .

URK-Ruthless
18th August 2008, 09:40 AM
vladimir,buritza,boots,cuirqass, s&y and 1 more... hmm let it be eul.

OMGBergrush
18th August 2008, 04:14 PM
cuirqass

a winner is you

KING_LEVORIC97
18th August 2008, 04:56 PM
a bugs hero are = cloverk

phaNtom.
18th August 2008, 05:01 PM
Clockwerk need much hp and armor/magin resistance build.
So, at beggining few extra bracers and power threads, then Armlet isnt bad, HoD, so make later AC and HoT gg no re ;/

sscorpion66
4th September 2008, 12:50 PM
ok guys first of all as i read at the first post 2 vanguards=waste of money.....
second if i would play him i would make him 3 bracer,simply boot,then if the other team has nukes i go hood or if the other team has many hero that does dmg with their physical attack then cuirass is the best.if hte other team has nukes and physical attacks then hot.after hot finishing travel and then cuirass i think the best.
maybe play him with a bottle and gang up and down at start and make 2 bracers instead of 3 will also be ok i think.

glop2
5th September 2008, 12:09 PM
clockwork can be beat from mortred (phaton assasin)

phaton assasin is imba

Mad_ideaz
9th September 2008, 12:11 PM
why the well would you put buriza on clockwerk? its like putting it on axe. the only str hero id put buriza on is balanar, the other ones that would need it allready have a skill critical.

LifeDrainer[RO]
9th September 2008, 04:13 PM
clockwork can be beat from mortred (phaton assasin)

phaton assasin is imba

you are the winner!

ps: no power treads for clock

[RO]Claudiu
9th September 2008, 05:03 PM
clockwork can be beat from mortred (phaton assasin)

phaton assasin is imba

..... i voluntear to prove you wrong in a 1v1 game :)

ontopic : my fav item on clockwerk is radiance .

Silver.
2nd October 2008, 06:32 AM
Yea it's good combo radiance with your mini-stun and the cog :D but i saw another build-up like : travel desolator cuirass HoT and it owned like hell =))

smaree
2nd October 2008, 11:57 AM
I think boots of travel and battle furry are not bad for the beggining ?

Tito
2nd October 2008, 12:46 PM
You're buch of idiots. Why would a strenght hero need a critical, to be a carry in late game? Clockwerk is early/mid game dominator, in late game he doesn't do much with his attacking dmg, ( not talking if you buy divine reaper, satanic, assault, bla,bla,bla, you can't do that in a decent game ), I rather play it as a supporter, a bot and few brasers are just enough for him, let the other heroes of the team get the good items when you're killing their team.

Tkc]MAGNUM4C
12th October 2008, 12:29 PM
For clock big noez are dps items, armlet . He is a hero wich needs 3 bracers boots and a bottle. period . luxury items for him are necromicon, orchid , guinso , radi if ur lucky enough to get it ofc im talkin bout decent games.