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FaP.m0ngEr
28th July 2008, 05:28 PM
I saw the thread closed (link (http://eurobattle.net/showthread.php?t=75096)) and his vouche request being denied. I myself don't like to post around about such things, but I just don't understand how he could have been denied.

I was playing in that game too and if you watch closely and more carefully, we already had a Rikimaru, Shadow Fiend and a Viper as potential carries. Now as an Abaddon what would you do? Would you kill all the creeps taking them away from your better late-game potential heroes that I mentioned? Shadow Fiend (FlashJack) and viper (me) are both much better at carrying than Abaddon as we were let farming, we managed to win a game where we had a clear disadvantage.

Ali bought almost all the wards, which again helped us (mainly Flash) to farm our precious items. Also his shield usage was amazing and he did everything in teamfights he could. He also came with us whenever we wanted to gank and in an inhouse this is one of the most important things: communication and acknowledgement. Several people are already safe listed from that game and as you can see everybody were back in farming as we ganked a LOT. Even Flash, Yuma Ale and me were behin although we all three are safelisted and known mainly about how good we solo and farm.

You cannot judge someone's farming capabilities from just one replay. Obviously he could have attached some additional replays for that purpose, but I doubt that everyone needs to be the carry player. Everyone is better in some roles (like how Flash and I are the carries in FaP, while AArgon/RaptorJesus and Covercat/Battery are the supports most of the time).

So I would like request that his vouche is looked at again, because he is clearly at the avarage level of SS players, can play in team and is mannered. Thanks for your time!

LifeDrainer[RO]
28th July 2008, 05:47 PM
i think you skipped this part from rules

5) Moderator's decision is irrevocable.

ss-Kenyshor
28th July 2008, 05:54 PM
Like I said, I liked his teamplay/gameplay, but his farming skills were to low. He missed ALOT of creeps even when he was alone on lane, I dont even wanna think how he'll farm while beeing constant harrased/nuked.

FaP.m0ngEr
28th July 2008, 06:04 PM
@LifeDrainer[RO]: maybe I did, but that's why I posted a new thread. Obviously if you don't want to give him a vouche yet, then you won't. But there are certain facts that you shouldn't just skim through and that is: he played well and he played his role.

Like I said, I liked his teamplay/gameplay, but his farming skills were to low. He missed ALOT of creeps even when he was alone on lane, I dont even wanna think how he'll farm while beeing constant harrased/nuked.

Yes, I know that, and that's why I was a bit 0.o You liked his style and he played as he was supposed to, yet was denied. I think just telling him to get one or two additional replays would have been better, because you can't judge him from one game. Also note that he had a slight delay, which is a big factor when trying to last hit. And I think improving your last hit + deny micro is much easier than improving your teamplay. I for one can teach anybody to decently last hit + deny in a week or two, while teaching teamplay is really really difficult as you need to know several heroes and what style they demand and also, how to place wards, when to come for a gank, when to back out, how to juke around the trees. These are things you'll learn only after months or even years of playing in inhouse games and in scrims.

If you don't want to rethink his vouche, then okay, let it be. We will rather play with him then as he is our friend, and we know he will do what he ask for, and he will tell us what to do when he calls for a gank or defense. ;)

Uberpr0
29th July 2008, 12:38 AM
why can't aliradical himself come over to the forum to ask why he was denied?

LifeDrainer[RO]
29th July 2008, 12:40 AM
why can't aliradical himself come over to the forum to ask why he was denied?

that is a good question

if he does not care, why should you care about him?(i am talking to user who made this thread)

JoLpAz
20th September 2008, 11:15 PM
and , what happened ?

LifeDrainer[RO]
20th September 2008, 11:27 PM
hmm, nothing

Newklear
24th September 2008, 11:10 PM
Revive this thread with piece of
http://harryxo.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/pokemon_serie.jpg

Artanthos
25th September 2008, 01:49 AM
LoL!!!