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LifeDrainer[RO]
05-19-2008, 19:27
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7200/imagesfu6.jpg


Heroes with images

* Terrorblade - Conjure image 25%/ 35%/ 45%/ 55% damage, 300% damage taken, lasts 30 seconds
* Naga Siren - Mirror image 15%/ 30%/ 30%/ 45% damage, 300% damage taken, lasts 30 seconds
* Phantom Lancer - Dopplewalk image 25% damage, 300% damage taken, lasts 20 seconds Juxtapose image 25% damage, 300% damage taken, lasts 15 seconds
* Morphling - Replicate 50% damage, 100% damage taken, lasts 30/45/60 seconds
* Spectre - Haunt 50% damage, takes 200%damage, lasts 4/5/6 seconds
* Chaos Knight - Phantasm image 100% damage, 200% damage taken, lasts 20 seconds
* Meepo - Divided we Stand 100% damage, 100% damage taken, lasts forever

We will consider Meepo's images different to the rest.

Items working on images

http://www.dota-allstars.com/images/lists/BTNSpellShieldAmulet.gifMekasm
Images benefit from the armor increase, they won't be healed.

http://www.dota-allstars.com/images/lists/BTNINV_Sword_11.gifhttp://www.dota-allstars.com/images/lists/BTNINV_ThrowingAxe_02.gifDiffusal
and Manta
Images (Only Melee) will have the manaburn with each attack. They will make as damage as mana they burn.

http://www.dota-allstars.com/images/lists/BTNTransmute.gifRadiance
Images will get the evasion but not the damage from Radiance. The immolation effect will appear on the images but the damage does not stack.

http://www.dota-allstars.com/images/lists/BTNINV_ThrowingKnife_04.gifButterfly
Images will get the evasion.

http://www.dota-allstars.com/images/lists/BTNThoriumMelee.gifhttp://www.dota-allstars.com/images/lists/BTNINV_Weapon_Crossbow_10.gifCrystalys and Buriza
Images will have critical but not from the weapon's increase damage. Only from the heroe damage base plus the stats he has.

http://www.dota-allstars.com/images/lists/BTNGem.gifGem of true sight
Images will have true sight.


Another useful Items

* Items that increase the hero's HP (Vitality Booster, Vanguard, HoT..) - The Images will get the HP boost.
* Items that increase the hero's MP (Energy Booster, Arcane Ring...) - The Images will get the MP boost.
* Items that increase Movement Speed (Treads, Yasha...) - The Images will move faster.
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* Items that increase Stats (Bracer, Ogre Axe, Eaglehorn...) - The images will take the benefits. For example if you take AGI Items (Eaglehorn) your images will get attack speed.

Items NOT working on images

http://www.dota-allstars.com/images/lists/BTNPeriapt1.gifHyperstone
Images won't get attack speed

http://www.dota-allstars.com/images/lists/BTNINV_Weapon_Halberd_10.gifMonkey King Bar
Images won't get tha attack speed or the damage. The Bash Effect it won't work. However the bash effect will appear sometimes when images hit an enemy but the effect is not true.

http://www.dota-allstars.com/images/lists/BTNINV_Hammer_10.gifCranium Basher
Images won't bash with their hits. The bash icon appears but the effect is not done.

http://www.dota-allstars.com/images/lists/BTNINV_ThrowingAxe_06.gifBattle Fury
Images won't get Claving Attack.

http://www.dota-allstars.com/images/lists/BTNIceShard.gifEye of Skadi
Frost attack will work only in ranges images, not in melee.
Important Info A lot of people has repply in this post telling me that Skadi Frost Attack does not stack in Terrorblades images. I want to tell them they are wrong. The problem is that usually when u buy Skadi receipt you make in melee form, so the Skadi you are buying is a melee one. If you finish the Skadi in range form, your images will have the frost effect aswell.... I thought all the people knew this, but it seems a lot of them didnt know, so pls check. LOL!


Items with Orb Effect

Items with Orb Effect like Sange, Helm of Dominator, Mjollnir, Desolator.... won't work on images. The animation could appear (Vampiric) but the effect is not working.

Another useless Items

* Items that increase the Damage (Crystalys, Rapier, Rapier...) The damage increase won't work on images.
* Items that gives armor (Blade Mail, Plate Mail...) The Images won't get the bonus armor.
* Items that increase the attack speed (Yasha, Hyperstone, HoM....) Images won't get Attack Speed.
* Items that increase HP/MP regeneration (Sobi Mask, RoH...)
* Items with passive skills (Vanguard, Blade Mail...) The Images won't activate the skills.

Another useful information

Images will remove negative buffs (like poison, battle hunger,curse of silent...)
Images doesn't benefit from activated skills of a hero. (Example: Bones Strafe, Troll Rampage....)
Axe Images can benefit from Counterhelix.
Enchantress Images can benefit from Untouchable.
Centaur Images can benefit from Return.
Chen's Ultimate can heal his images.
Bloodseeker heals the Hp when killing a image.
Images can be controlled by Enchantress's Enchant.
Rikimaru Images have Invisibility.
Images have no collision.
Naix Images benefit from Poison Sting.
Spirit Bear Images do not gain the entangle skill.
Balanar Images do not benfit from Movement Speed at night.
Jakiro Images can use Auto Fire.
Beastmaster Images benefit from Beast Rage

How to counter Images
There are some tricks to guess who is the hero and who is an image....

* Check the armor - Only the real hero has armor increase from items
* Check the mana - Only the real hero increase mana at a normal speed
* Attack to check if is receiving more damage than normal
* Think about if the image is controlled like last hitting, moving by a human or is autoattacking
* Zeus Ultimate will only hit the real hero

All credits to Tulky from dota-allstars forum

Tito
05-20-2008, 11:31
Mmm, destroyer's orb pwn illusions. Purge too ;)

-eXtasY-
05-20-2008, 13:13
I think that info for basher is not correct. As i remember if target is already bashed , illusion can prolong it , but it cant make first bash by itself. Anyone knows it for sure?

Tito
05-20-2008, 13:31
Neah, it only gives the " bash animation ", but the unit is still able to hit/move. One boy on phantom lancer made 4 bashers and said " now they can't move ", and goes 1v1 vs trol with imba items and get pwned in 2 sec =))

Artanthos
05-20-2008, 13:34
I think that info for basher is not correct. As i remember if target is already bashed , illusion can prolong it , but it cant make first bash by itself. Anyone knows it for sure?

You are right here.

Tito
05-20-2008, 13:36
Okey, go CG take naga siren and make 6 bashers, get lvl 7 ( 4 times illusions ) and go kill the bots. Hit with the naga untill she bashes an then turn back and let the illusions to do the job. I bet the hero won't wake up.

ss-Kenyshor
05-20-2008, 13:49
I think that info for basher is not correct. As i remember if target is already bashed , illusion can prolong it , but it cant make first bash by itself. Anyone knows it for sure?


You are right here.

Both are right. Bashers on images works in a strange way. If an image starts to bash a hero it's only a fake (bash effect apears, but hero can move), but if the real hero starts a bash, the images can prolongue it. I dont know exact numbers and procents , but it's useless anyway.

LifeDrainer[RO]
05-20-2008, 15:03
the info say that images cant bash not that images cant prolong bash...prolly he meant that image NEVER can cast first bash...

Tito
05-20-2008, 20:08
I told you, test it. Go play a single game with computer bots, take naga siren and make 6 bashers. See the time when only the " real " hero bashes, and into the next attack, attack with the hero untill he bashes and then turn away and let only the ilusions hit. Tell me your conclusion.

Bonzy
05-20-2008, 21:38
It's not like anyone is gonna go for bashers on illusion-based heroes ;)

[RO]Claudiu
05-22-2008, 21:44
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Naix Images benefit from Poison Sting.


naix doesnt have poison sting :P ( anymore ) the guide must be old , overall very nice job (whoever made it )

[gdl]shadow
09-02-2008, 05:30
when the illusion hits with MKB and does mini-stun the bonus dmg counts gg so its not that useless...cause bonus dmg rocks

LifeDrainer[RO]
09-02-2008, 14:06
you mean that dmg from MKB with chance, have effect on images?

[gdl]shadow
09-02-2008, 16:21
;839404']you mean that dmg from MKB with chance, have effect on images?

yea sweety imo mkb chance on hit has effect on images to,try it and see its imbaness :)

-eXtasY-
09-02-2008, 18:38
shadow;839313']when the illusion hits with MKB and does mini-stun the bonus dmg counts gg so its not that useless...cause bonus dmg rocks
As i know only animation shows up without dmg. Same as bash on illusions.. you see the effect but without stun...

[gdl]shadow
09-02-2008, 18:51
As i know only animation shows up without dmg. Same as bash on illusions.. you see the effect but without stun...

yes i know that bash/mini-stun apears but doesnt stun...but i always thought that it does the bonus dmg :)

death_2_guta
09-04-2008, 00:15
It's not like anyone is gonna go for bashers on illusion-based heroes ;)

:laugh: go play more pubs and you shall see(or at least hear sudgestions for image based heroes to make bash :| ):pet: