Marxism/Communism v. Capitalism/Individualism

[KeweLi]

Many people are mistaken to the theory that communism is a bad thing. The idea is actually really good and it is supposed to have the same result as marxism according to Karl Marx.
In a marxist society there would be 0 poverty. Let me say that again, ZERO poverty! Everyone would be treated equally and there would be no such thing as racism and descriminattion. Communism is supposed to lead into marxism. During the cold war the Americans exaggerated on the con's of it. But of course, Stalin did change the idea of communism and it turned the USSR into a permanent totalitarianism. A proper communist society would be temporary totalitarianism moving smoothly into marxism.

I hope you guys understand what I'm saying because I know that people are not sure of what communism really is. There are 2 meanings today; a) everyone is equal b) stalin's form of communism. If you are still unsure of what I am saying and you're still interested, I strongly recommend the book/movie; Animal Farm. It is basically an allegory of the Stalin Era.

For people who understand what I'm on about, read on.
Today in developed countries there are still people who work and earn close to nothing. Marxism erases this problem instantly where as individualism does not. Individualism is a core of what America is made up of today. "Hard work and planning pays off". We all know this is not the case, there are people who work their arses off and can't even afford a proper 3 sets of meal everyday.

I am not saying that marxism is flawless of course. Both sides have their pro's and con's. In a marxist; ideas, inventions, economic growth are supressed.
What do you guys think of all this? I hope someone posts something sensible as I am eager to explore more on this.

[OneTrickBurny]

Of course you know marxism is only an idea and is not possible.

Not everyone deserves to be paid the same amount of money, so no.

I dislike capitalsm as well, but it's a better option.

[OMGBergrush]

communism w/o a strong dictator who knows a thing or two about administration is doomed to fail because it doesnt capitalize on one major human characteristic - greed. why should i bother to give it my best if im going to get paid the same anyway. however if you have a strong ruler like stalin he will just force you to do your best...not humane maybe but still it was the ussr that led and won the space race and has some of the best and cheapest military technology. they just didnt have enough bread

[IOwnYouAll]

the only good thing about comunism is that everybody has a working place

the idea that everbody is equal is bullcrap. People purely can't be equal...he is shorter...he is prittyer...he is tougher...he has bigger postcount :p

Intelectual people were sent to jail if they wouldn't accept and write about comunism,beeing a threath to comunism

money didn't count that time because the economy of comunism was based on EXPORTS so produces weren't available for everybody(some ppl had relationships...but to few,so ppl starved)

if u wanted to buy smth more...special like a car...u would have to be put on a list...you could wait even 5 years and only then get the car...

the "chosen" people who "rule" the country are the working class...or they want you to think that because working class is easy to controll,but actualy the dictator rules...who proclaimes himself ruler for life...cool huh?

donno about other countries, but in Romania, you couldn't leave the country just like that...you were kinda stuck in forever

and of course...the " idolization " of the ruler...

cool but i chose democracy:thumbUP:

[fatman69]

comunism is a good idea, but can't be done... it's just a good dream and most of the imaginary future socieities without money are pretty much similar to comunism, too bad it's never gonna happen

[KeweLi]

the only good thing about comunism is that everybody has a working place

the idea that everbody is equal is bullcrap. People purely can't be equal...he is shorter...he is prittyer...he is tougher...he has bigger postcount :p

Intelectual people were sent to jail if they wouldn't accept and write about comunism,beeing a threath to comunism

money didn't count that time because the economy of comunism was based on EXPORTS so produces weren't available for everybody(some ppl had relationships...but to few,so ppl starved)

if u wanted to buy smth more...special like a car...u would have to be put on a list...you could wait even 5 years and only then get the car...

the "chosen" people who "rule" the country are the working class...or they want you to think that because working class is easy to controll,but actualy the dictator rules...who proclaimes himself ruler for life...cool huh?

donno about other countries, but in Romania, you couldn't leave the country just like that...you were kinda stuck in forever

and of course...the " idolization " of the ruler...

cool but i chose democracy:thumbUP:

Good to see you posting something thoughtful. :)

I agree with you in the part where if you want to buy a car... it would have to go on the wish list. Like I said, inventions and new ideas will be passed very slowly or not at all.

Berg pulled a good one out too. "Why should i bother to give it my best if i'm going to get paid the same anyway". You are right, but this is not marxism. In a real marxist system, everyone would work to their best for the good of the community. This is why Marxism has never existed in our world and people call it a theory.

[Slayzer]

Of course you know marxism is only an idea and is not possible.

Not everyone deserves to be paid the same amount of money, so no.

I dislike capitalsm as well, but it's a better option.

:clap: I agree! :clap: