Elections in Serbia

[Slayzer]

Final results should be like this:
~DS(For European Serbia)-38%
~SRS(Serbian radical party)-29,1%
~DSS-NS(Democratic party of Serbia-New Serbia)-11,3%
~SPS(Socialist Party of Serbia)-7,9%
~LDP(Liberal Democratic Party)-5,2%

so coalitions should look like this:
~European: DS,LDP(42,2%)
~Nationalist: SRS,DSS(40,4%)+SPS(48,3%)

correct me if I was wrong...
Looks like we are going to have new elections?
What do u think who will coalitions look like?
personal comment?

[LoveHurts]

rofl !

why would i care about elections in serbia??

very funny guy ! I must remember you that here also come : americans ,brasilians ,romanians ,russian and polish ppl ,ETC,so why would they care about that?? Hey ,why dont u open a thread and tell us what u ate last night ,i`m sure everyone will enjoy the subject ! :thumbUP:

[Proliv]

So what if he posted those elections will change our country(serbia) to better or worse, we will see results in 4years but this is not a small thing my friend.

[Bonzy]

SPS won't go along DSS-NS and SRS , and I doubt that DSS-NS and SRS will form a coalition because Kostunica doesn't want our politics to be influenced by Vojislav Seselj. Believe me , they are just talking about that , but it ain't gonna happen. SPS will probably form a coalition with DS or it will not form any coalition , there are even strong rumors that SPS has a reserved slot in administration of , hm dunno how to name it , routes or on serbian "saobracaj" if they form a coalition with DS. DSS will hardly form a coalition with radicals because they just have too different politics , with only few similarities (like Kosovo subject and EU) but basically those 2 are very different. The true winner of these elections are DS and SPS , basically if you look mathematicaly , all depends of SPS's choice who to form a coalition with , and DS is a winner because the bond betwen SRS/DSS/SPS is too weak and they will not form a coalition for sure.

[LoveHurts]

Is this serbian forum guys? Open this thread in off-topic...i dont think this is the right place to talk about this .

I didnt say this is not important ,by all means ,this is very important and i respect that ,but u should keep that to ur country, people that come from somewhere else cant talk about this ,and this is a public forum.
Would you care if i talk about Romanian politics? seriously i doubt it...

[pRiMe]

@Lovehurts if u don't like it go away and don't visit this thread,noone force u to come here and write anything.
If admins think that this is not the proper thread for this topic they will delete it,otherwise it's not ur business.

[fatman69]

Is this serbian forum guys? Open this thread in off-topic...i dont think this is the right place to talk about this .

I didnt say this is not important ,by all means ,this is very important and i respect that ,but u should keep that to ur country, people that come from somewhere else cant talk about this ,and this is a public forum.
Would you care if i talk about Romanian politics? seriously i doubt it...

ffs dude this is a serious thing for the entire region not just serbs, we (croats) are also affected by the outcome, so is kosovo, bosnia, and many other neighbours of serbs. as prime said no1 forced you to come to this thread, u may open a thread on politics of your own country...

the victory of the democrats would be in the best inerest of serbia but who knows what might happen. but it seems there might be new elections (again)

[TBK.Goldy]

the victory of the democrats would be in the best inerest of serbia but who knows what might happen. but it seems there might be new elections (again)

exactly. democrats is the only intelectual way.

[OMGBergrush]

SPS won't go along DSS-NS and SRS , and I doubt that DSS-NS and SRS will form a coalition because Kostunica doesn't want our politics to be influenced by Vojislav Seselj. Believe me , they are just talking about that , but it ain't gonna happen. SPS will probably form a coalition with DS or it will not form any coalition , there are even strong rumors that SPS has a reserved slot in administration of , hm dunno how to name it , routes or on serbian "saobracaj" if they form a coalition with DS. DSS will hardly form a coalition with radicals because they just have too different politics , with only few similarities (like Kosovo subject and EU) but basically those 2 are very different. The true winner of these elections are DS and SPS , basically if you look mathematicaly , all depends of SPS's choice who to form a coalition with , and DS is a winner because the bond betwen SRS/DSS/SPS is too weak and they will not form a coalition for sure.

bonzy you are wrong on so many levels i wounder if you pay any attention to politics at all.
sps forming a coalition with ds i just lol. if you dont know the majoruity of sps voters are people aged over 60 which are the most uncompromising part of the voter body. those are the people who cant be bought with free visas or some petty investments. sps can by all means join ds but if they do so they wont go over the census line on the next elections and besides ivica dacic has stated that he had very good relations with dss in the previous government and kostunica will be the first person he turns to in the talks. and on a side note if ds is to form a coalition with sps they need ldp too and sps WILL NEVER be with ldp just like radicals will NEVER BE with ds.

as for radicals and dss they have the same view on kosovo which is the prime concern of these elections and will most likely cooperate. something which was evident in the preelection campaign and is even more so now.

and furthermore dss was in the government with sps and they had good relations just like i mentioned earlier. and on a side note the voters of sps are the most nationalistic of them all even more so than the srs or dss so its more than obvious that the coalition will be srs/dss/sps. i assume kostunica will be premier again dacic or vucic will be the president of the parlament and radicals will get the majority of the administration

i also think they might give a spot in the governmet to sulejman ugljanin who is on very bad terms with rasim ljajic who went over to the ds bloc. if they do so they will form a somewhat more stable government with 8 places advantage as opposed to 4 places advantage that seems to be the case if the sanjak coalition is excluded

[Slayzer]

bonzy you are wrong on so many levels i wounder if you pay any attention to politics at all.
sps forming a coalition with ds i just lol. if you dont know the majoruity of sps voters are people aged over 60 which are the most uncompromising part of the voter body. those are the people who cant be bought with free visas or some petty investments. sps can by all means join ds but if they do so they wont go over the census line on the next elections and besides ivica dacic has stated that he had very good relations with dss in the previous government and kostunica will be the first person he turns to in the talks. and on a side note if ds is to form a coalition with sps they need ldp too and sps WILL NEVER be with ldp just like radicals will NEVER BE with ds.

as for radicals and dss they have the same view on kosovo which is the prime concern of these elections and will most likely cooperate. something which was evident in the preelection campaign and is even more so now.

and furthermore dss was in the government with sps and they had good relations just like i mentioned earlier. and on a side note the voters of sps are the most nationalistic of them all even more so than the srs or dss so its more than obvious that the coalition will be srs/dss/sps. i assume kostunica will be premier again dacic or vucic will be the president of the parlament and radicals will get the majority of the administration

i also think they might give a spot in the governmet to sulejman ugljanin who is on very bad terms with rasim ljajic who went over to the ds bloc. if they do so they will form a somewhat more stable government with 8 places advantage as opposed to 4 places advantage that seems to be the case if the sanjak coalition is excluded

I can agree with many things u have said here, but I would say that LDP will never go with SPS into coalition. Problem is that population in our country is old so there are many who will say:"I don't care for EU, they are liars, they will steal Kosovo from us!'. Well I this can sound funny but I have the best example, my grandfather voted for SPS or SRS, I am not sure and my dad voted for LDP. My dad tried to explain(to my grandfather) why is it bad if
votes for nationalist, but my grandfather didn't want to listen to him, he didn't even have enough patience so he couldn't understand why is it important for us(younger ppl) to Serbia reach EU finaly. Well most old ppl are selfish(MOST NOT ALL) and they don't care how are young going to live!

[Bonzy]

bonzy you are wrong on so many levels i wounder if you pay any attention to politics at all.
sps forming a coalition with ds i just lol. if you dont know the majoruity of sps voters are people aged over 60 which are the most uncompromising part of the voter body. those are the people who cant be bought with free visas or some petty investments. sps can by all means join ds but if they do so they wont go over the census line on the next elections and besides ivica dacic has stated that he had very good relations with dss in the previous government and kostunica will be the first person he turns to in the talks. and on a side note if ds is to form a coalition with sps they need ldp too and sps WILL NEVER be with ldp just like radicals will NEVER BE with ds.

as for radicals and dss they have the same view on kosovo which is the prime concern of these elections and will most likely cooperate. something which was evident in the preelection campaign and is even more so now.

and furthermore dss was in the government with sps and they had good relations just like i mentioned earlier. and on a side note the voters of sps are the most nationalistic of them all even more so than the srs or dss so its more than obvious that the coalition will be srs/dss/sps. i assume kostunica will be premier again dacic or vucic will be the president of the parlament and radicals will get the majority of the administration

i also think they might give a spot in the governmet to sulejman ugljanin who is on very bad terms with rasim ljajic who went over to the ds bloc. if they do so they will form a somewhat more stable government with 8 places advantage as opposed to 4 places advantage that seems to be the case if the sanjak coalition is excluded

Time will tell. And I will make sure I quote you again after it happens.

[klemen]

Serbia did the right thing.

[OMGBergrush]

I have the best example, my grandfather voted for SPS or SRS, I am not sure and my dad voted for LDP. My dad tried to explain(to my grandfather) why is it bad if votes for nationalist, but my grandfather didn't want to listen to him, he didn't even have enough patience so he couldn't understand why is it important for us(younger ppl) to Serbia reach EU finaly. Well most old ppl are selfish(MOST NOT ALL) and they don't care how are young going to live!

i will tell you right now why your grandfather didnt want to vote for EU. probably because he is old enough to know what this europe has done for us. 1st they sold us out in ww2 then they sold out or king and brought the communists then they sold out the communists and destroyed the country after that they sold out the democratic opposition and bombed the counry after which they sold out the democratic government and stole kosovo. your grandfather knows they are not to be trusted and he is right all others who think the eu will do us benefit are wrong. they are liars and will do anything in their power to weaken and destroy serbia as history has proven and the only way for us to win is to have a strong independent serbia backed by strong russia.

the eu may give promises and some benefactions but they are doing that just to buy our consent for the evil which they have committed

as for your father who voted for ldp you should be proud that he is voting for a party which says we should renounce kosovo, which says drugs should be legal, which says ***s are normal and basically goes against every moral principle we serbs stand for...you proud of him?

[Slayzer]

Europe didn't bring comunism to us, Russia did that!

[OMGBergrush]

Europe didn't bring comunism to us, Russia did that!

this is going off topic but anyway in ww2 we were allied with the british who put us into the war and by that we were allied with the whole western bloc i mean usa france belgium holland canada australia etc. and these allies the british to e precise sheltered our king and our government. so why didnt these allies tell stalin to **** off? and not just in our case but with the whole eastern europe? because they dont really wish you any good and come to think off it they would be most hapopy if serbia just disappeared which can easily seen by their politics.

you know in ww1 when our army needed evacuation and the westerners were stalling czar nicolas sent an ultimatum to them either send transports or russia leaves the war which is what allies are about. compare that to the "help" you got from the british and the rest in ww2. come to think of it we received more help for ussr than the western powers whom we were allied with.

so yeah what im trying to say is pretty much the same europe can say whatever it wants but i for one wont listen to their lies. when someone lies to you and makes false promises so many times and you still trust them well then its not the problem about them being deceitful its about you being an idiot for trusting someone who betrayed you on multiple occasions

[Proliv]

this is going off topic but anyway in ww2 we were allied with the british who put us into the war and by that we were allied with the whole western bloc i mean usa france belgium holland canada australia etc. and these allies the british to e precise sheltered our king and our government. so why didnt these allies tell stalin to **** off? and not just in our case but with the whole eastern europe? because they dont really wish you any good and come to think off it they would be most hapopy if serbia just disappeared which can easily seen by their politics.

you know in ww1 when our army needed evacuation and the westerners were stalling czar nicolas sent an ultimatum to them either send transports or russia leaves the war which is what allies are about. compare that to the "help" you got from the british and the rest in ww2. come to think of it we received more help for ussr than the western powers whom we were allied with.

so yeah what im trying to say is pretty much the same europe can say whatever it wants but i for one wont listen to their lies. when someone lies to you and makes false promises so many times and you still trust them well then its not the problem about them being deceitful its about you being an idiot for trusting someone who betrayed you on multiple occasions

I totaly agree with you mate!:clap:

[klemen]

There is one difference: It was WAR these days, now we live in 21. century. I hope you see the difference, if not... w/e.

These days, it was about military support, today, it's about trade and commerce.

[-eXtasY-]

These days, it was about military support, today, it's about trade and commerce.
Big mistake , its still about war , just with other interests. Whole diplomacy between russia and usa is based on potential wars and fight for recourses. Same goes with serbia since its has great strategic position. If you think opposite , then answer me why USA built the biggest military base outside of their territory, in Kosovo? Economy interests? I doubt. They supported albanians just to get Kosovo as one big military position and make threat to Russia , nothing else.
Everything what berg said is one big truth but im not sure if I'm ready to live in an isolated country again. I want to travel , have money , normal life , not to be looked on another way when i say I'm a Serb , not to live in wars.... But price is very big. We should spit on our moral an' history in change for better life....
From my point of view this elections were one big referendum with 2 choices: Eu and Russia.
I really couldn't decide and its one of reasons why i missed this elections..

[klemen]

Big mistake , its still about war , just with other interests. Whole diplomacy between russia and usa is based on potential wars and fight for recourses. Same goes with serbia since its has great strategic position. If you think opposite , then answer me why USA built the biggest military base outside of their territory, in Kosovo? Economy interests? I doubt. They supported albanians just to get Kosovo as one big military position and make threat to Russia , nothing else.
Everything what berg said is one big truth but im not sure if I'm ready to live in an isolated country again. I want to travel , have money , normal life , not to be looked on another way when i say I'm a Serb , not to live in wars.... But price is very big. We should spit on our moral an' history in change for better life....
From my point of view this elections were one big referendum with 2 choices: Eu and Russia.
I really couldn't decide and its one of reasons why i missed this elections..

My post was more about entering EU union then other things, but I agree to your post too.

[sunnis]

Stupid thread, like any non serbian will care about this thread, lovehurts had the point

[-eXtasY-]

So? If you don't care , stay out. It goes under serious discussion so i don't see what is the problem. The thing which doesn't belong here are such comments.

[DaV]

Stupid thread, like any non serbian will care about this thread, lovehurts had the point

if you wanna show how much you dont care , as first , dont write anything here , we would appreciate it. that counts for other also . thx

[-eXtasY-]

DSS made coalition with SRS , so everything is on Socialists. Have you ever imagined that they will have decision about our future, again ? weird , isn't it?

[OMGBergrush]

Dweird , isn't it?

actually its more like ironic

[[GOD]Marko]

I've not and will not vote. Why? No comment.

[Slayzer]

this is going off topic but anyway in ww2 we were allied with the british who put us into the war and by that we were allied with the whole western bloc i mean usa france belgium holland canada australia etc. and these allies the british to e precise sheltered our king and our government. so why didnt these allies tell stalin to **** off? and not just in our case but with the whole eastern europe? because they dont really wish you any good and come to think off it they would be most hapopy if serbia just disappeared which can easily seen by their politics.

you know in ww1 when our army needed evacuation and the westerners were stalling czar nicolas sent an ultimatum to them either send transports or russia leaves the war which is what allies are about. compare that to the "help" you got from the british and the rest in ww2. come to think of it we received more help for ussr than the western powers whom we were allied with.

so yeah what im trying to say is pretty much the same europe can say whatever it wants but i for one wont listen to their lies. when someone lies to you and makes false promises so many times and you still trust them well then its not the problem about them being deceitful its about you being an idiot for trusting someone who betrayed you on multiple occasions

I am sorry, but I really can't agree with that.
1) In ww1 Russia was Empire not the comunist country! And why do u think anyone should love us??? omg... Russia helped us coz we are Orthodox country and why do u have to glorify things that Russia did for us? I have never heard thanks for Greece! They did much more, and they never betrayed us!
2)We entered ww2 because Russia needed some time to organize defence and Hitler lost too much time so Barabarosa couldn't be operated on time and in one hand we saved Russia. And what did they done to us? Send comunists! NO THANKS! How many people were killed in Russia during Comunists leadership?! Same thing happened in Yugoslavia!
3)Why did the Russia let NATO to bomb us?! Why did they let Milosevic to enter the war witouth any help?! Why are Mira Markovic and Marko Milosevic still in Russia?

[OMGBergrush]

please stop writing about stuff you obviously have no idea about. i could write a really long post to explain to you why you are wrong on so many levels but that just like your lack of basic historical facts is not for this discussion

[Slayzer]

That is not my lack of historical fact that is your problem, you can't except truth. Read history books again pls...

[Slayzer]

And if I am wrong please bring me some proofs, but not the posts or links! I want screen shoot from history book. But not the book which is 10 years old!

[fatman69]

Big mistake , its still about war , just with other interests. Whole diplomacy between russia and usa is based on potential wars and fight for recourses. Same goes with serbia since its has great strategic position. If you think opposite , then answer me why USA built the biggest military base outside of their territory, in Kosovo? Economy interests? I doubt. They supported albanians just to get Kosovo as one big military position and make threat to Russia , nothing else.
Everything what berg said is one big truth but im not sure if I'm ready to live in an isolated country again. I want to travel , have money , normal life , not to be looked on another way when i say I'm a Serb , not to live in wars.... But price is very big. We should spit on our moral an' history in change for better life....
From my point of view this elections were one big referendum with 2 choices: Eu and Russia.
I really couldn't decide and its one of reasons why i missed this elections..

well i'm sorry to inform you that the days when that moral, that you (and berg for that matter) speak of, are gone. unless you are too blind too see, your people can't live of feelings of nationalism, you gotta have good jobs, good perspective. russia can't provide that not even for their own citizens and hardly for any other. i'm not pro-eu not even in my country but it's the only way to good life imo.

in croatia it's the same old story throughout history, unless some1 foreign comes and kix us in the bottocks we won't do a damn thing. if you ignore the forced germanisation, our country had the best perspective as a part of Austro-hungarian empire, whether we admit it or not. once we got free, we didn't know what to do with ourselves, jumped from one union to another, we finally got our freedom today, and for what? we are led by thieves, the courts practice anything but the fair law, good jobs are... i don't know where i don't see them. hopefully, i'll soon have my master's degree(few yrs) but i don't know what i can do with it, i ll be a ****in mr.sc fatman- the waiter...so if the union will come and clean this goddamn mess our corrupted politicians and our quasi capitalism have made, then god bless them, i don't need my country if i can't have a decent life in it.

this all may seem like the words of a sell-out, but i assure you, if the war broke out, i'd fight for my country without a doubt. but once the time comes for you to make a good life, you should take it. and after you spend 15 years on education, i think you deserve a chance for a good life and if your country doesnt let you breathe then i don't see any alternatives. i don't wanna be a bloody shop assistant with a degree for a university professor.

this is the choice in my country, and i believe the choice is the same in serbia, if you think your country can stand alone, get a second thought, no1 can stand alone. and if you think russia is your ally, why did you sell your national oil company for a trinkle without getting anything in return?? it is very simple, in this day and age you can't call any1 an ally, you got countries that will exploit you, and whom you can exploit and generally both sides can benefit from it. and you got people that at first may not seem the type to exploit you, but they prolly will, and drag you down on their levels of poverty...

the choice is up to you serbs, it's either

a)blind nationalism, and that pride (that btw doesn't put the bread on the table) that brought you so many good things over the past few decades- the bombings, vetos etc
b) shutting da **** up for once and going with the flow, you are given probably the best terms of joining the EU and it's unfair. you never chose this way, and look where it brought you.

sry if i was too long, just thought to give my 2 cents

[-eXtasY-]

Yes , but i dont see EU took part of your land in order to join it......

[Slayzer]

well i'm sorry to inform you that the days when that moral, that you (and berg for that matter) speak of, are gone. unless you are too blind too see, your people can't live of feelings of nationalism, you gotta have good jobs, good perspective. russia can't provide that not even for their own citizens and hardly for any other. i'm not pro-eu not even in my country but it's the only way to good life imo.

in croatia it's the same old story throughout history, unless some1 foreign comes and kix us in the bottocks we won't do a damn thing. if you ignore the forced germanisation, our country had the best perspective as a part of Austro-hungarian empire, whether we admit it or not. once we got free, we didn't know what to do with ourselves, jumped from one union to another, we finally got our freedom today, and for what? we are led by thieves, the courts practice anything but the fair law, good jobs are... i don't know where i don't see them. hopefully, i'll soon have my master's degree(few yrs) but i don't know what i can do with it, i ll be a ****in mr.sc fatman- the waiter...so if the union will come and clean this goddamn mess our corrupted politicians and our quasi capitalism have made, then god bless them, i don't need my country if i can't have a decent life in it.

this all may seem like the words of a sell-out, but i assure you, if the war broke out, i'd fight for my country without a doubt. but once the time comes for you to make a good life, you should take it. and after you spend 15 years on education, i think you deserve a chance for a good life and if your country doesnt let you breathe then i don't see any alternatives. i don't wanna be a bloody shop assistant with a degree for a university professor.

this is the choice in my country, and i believe the choice is the same in serbia, if you think your country can stand alone, get a second thought, no1 can stand alone. and if you think russia is your ally, why did you sell your national oil company for a trinkle without getting anything in return?? it is very simple, in this day and age you can't call any1 an ally, you got countries that will exploit you, and whom you can exploit and generally both sides can benefit from it. and you got people that at first may not seem the type to exploit you, but they prolly will, and drag you down on their levels of poverty...

the choice is up to you serbs, it's either

a)blind nationalism, and that pride (that btw doesn't put the bread on the table) that brought you so many good things over the past few decades- the bombings, vetos etc
b) shutting da **** up for once and going with the flow, you are given probably the best terms of joining the EU and it's unfair. you never chose this way, and look where it brought you.

sry if i was too long, just thought to give my 2 cents


Well said!!!!:tiphat::clap:

[Slayzer]

Yes , but i dont see EU took part of your land in order to join it......
Man EU didn't took part of our land! If anyone took it than it is America! And really I can't see difference about Kosovo now and before it was given independence. We didn't have anything on Kosovo no police, no administration, only people who lived there. You are talking like EU took Kosovo from us? Man how is it possible that EU stolen something from us that we didn't have????
We lost Kosovo when Tito was alive, he let the Albanians to run from Albania and to live on our land! For what?! Why? Who did ever told him that he isn't right? Why are Tadic,Milosevic and others blamed for something that isn't their guilty?!
Yes, while Milosevic was leading the country it still was ours, but he decided to clean our land from Albanians, but he did it on the wrong way he started the war without any support from any other strong country and he lost. Belgrade was bombed and Kosovo has been taken from us.

So why are we fighting for something we didn't have? Why are we fighting the war we already lost? America has made very bad decision, they will try to keep Muslims under their control, but I think they won't be able to do it well so in the end America will pay their fault.

[OMGBergrush]

Man EU didn't took part of our land! If anyone took it than it is America! And really I can't see difference about Kosovo now and before it was given independence. We didn't have anything on Kosovo no police, no administration, only people who lived there. You are talking like EU took Kosovo from us? Man how is it possible that EU stolen something from us that we didn't have????
We lost Kosovo when Tito was alive, he let the Albanians to run from Albania and to live on our land! For what?! Why? Who did ever told him that he isn't right? Why are Tadic,Milosevic and others blamed for something that isn't their guilty?!
Yes, while Milosevic was leading the country it still was ours, but he decided to clean our land from Albanians, but he did it on the wrong way he started the war without any support from any other strong country and he lost. Belgrade was bombed and Kosovo has been taken from us.

So why are we fighting for something we didn't have? Why are we fighting the war we already lost? America has made very bad decision, they will try to keep Muslims under their control, but I think they won't be able to do it well so in the end America will pay their fault.

you know, i thought you were just uneducated, but now i realize you are a moron. you are a hopeless retard who will never realize anything that requires the usage of logic so why not do yourself and all of us who here who have a brain a favor and just shut up.

[Slayzer]

you know, i thought you were just uneducated, but now i realize you are a moron. you are a hopeless retard who will never realize anything that requires the usage of logic so why not do yourself and all of us who here who have a brain a favor and just shut up.

So, U don't really have an answer?! Because u know it is true, you just can't except it...

[-eXtasY-]

Slayzer, you are totally right.... Our leaders are guilty coz we lost it and we should blame ourselves for losing it , not eu.

[OMGBergrush]

Our leaders are guilty coz we lost it and we should blame ourselves for losing it , not eu.

so your logic is that if someone robs you in the street its not his fault for being a bloody thief but its in fact your fault for not having a gun to shoot him...not so smart if you ask me

[fatman69]

look guys, whether you admit it or not, kosovo is gone. the smartest thing you could do at this point is calm down and move on, i know it's hard, but i don't see any scenario where kosovo could be reclaimed as serbian without a fight, and i know, as well as you do, that war is the last thing your country needs...

kosovo is just an issue over which your politicians make up quarels and discussions in order to keep the focus off the real problems your country has(education, economy, trade etc.) and the sooner you realise it, the better...even if you reclaim it what good will it bring you? it's just another piece of your land torn with war and poverty, do you actually need another million of orphans just waiting to cause another riot?

[-eXtasY-]

so your logic is that if someone robs you in the street its not his fault for being a bloody thief but its in fact your fault for not having a gun to shoot him...not so smart if you ask me
If you act like blind and don't protect your most important , then yes you deserve to be robed and its your fault.
Fatman your post was quite smart and i have to agree with it... The biggest problem is that even those nationalist parties don't have any idea how to bring our ppl on Kosovo , they just use that subject for elections and nothing more. They had decades of years to provide them good life there , but they failed and now they blame someone else...

[Slayzer]

so your logic is that if someone robs you in the street its not his fault for being a bloody thief but its in fact your fault for not having a gun to shoot him...not so smart if you ask me

EXCUSE ME! BUT THERE IS SOMETHING IN YOUR HEAD THAT MAKES U DON'T UNDERSTAND THINGS SO WELL! (sry for caps, I really had to)

So explain me, how did Serbia grown to country size like this? We were fighting agains Bulgaria,Byzantie,Hungary... so what?! We took their land! And they don't want us to give back them! USA won Kosovo in the war during 1999, Milosevic signed it!!! The problem is that he didn't say to our people that he lost Kosovo.He didn't say anything, and now we have Kostunica who is talking that western countries took our land from us? And he is "fighting for Kosovo" by making our lives worse! Why didn't he accepted Arthisaris plan? Why didn't our government demand dividing of Kosovo? If that was the way to save a part of it(at least 30%) so what? It's better 30% than nothing!

[OMGBergrush]

So explain me, how did Serbia grown to country size like this? We were fighting agains Bulgaria,Byzantie,Hungary... so what?! We took their land! And they don't want us to give back them! USA won Kosovo in the war during 1999, Milosevic signed it!!! The problem is that he didn't say to our people that he lost Kosovo.He didn't say anything, and now we have Kostunica who is talking that western countries took our land from us? And he is "fighting for Kosovo" by making our lives worse! Why didn't he accepted Arthisaris plan? Why didn't our government demand dividing of Kosovo? If that was the way to save a part of it(at least 30%) so what? It's better 30% than nothing!

first of all we didnt lose it in a was because there was no war. it was an intervention or however they want to call it but it was no war. and secondly if you think that the standard of life during the reign of kostunica has decreased then you are an idiot. as for the kosovo issue i will just tell you that you are a retarded selfish traitor who only cares for his own well being and not the good of the state. my opinion is that people like you should e expelled from our country for treason

[klemen]

And really I can't see difference about Kosovo now and before it was given independence. We didn't have anything on Kosovo no police, no administration, only people who lived there.
Totaly agree and in fact it's true.

[fatman69]

berg your country got bombed day and night for a few weeks (or months, don't know don't care actually)... how would you call that if not war??

if you could just explain us how fighting for kosovo would bring your country any good i would be very grateful? thx in advance

(oh and i'd like to tell all the people that aren't informed about the situation that this isn't a discussion over kosovo, but over the elections, it's just a mere coincidence that the kosovo is in the middle of the election's interests and promises)

[Slayzer]

first of all we didnt lose it in a was because there was no war. it was an intervention or however they want to call it but it was no war. and secondly if you think that the standard of life during the reign of kostunica has decreased then you are an idiot. as for the kosovo issue i will just tell you that you are a retarded selfish traitor who only cares for his own well being and not the good of the state. my opinion is that people like you should e expelled from our country for treason

So you would expel more than half of Serbians just because they want to live normal? If Kostunica love Kosovo so much why did he kill Djindjic? Djindjic was the only person who could MAYBE keep Kosovo in our country. The problem is that neither Kostunica nor Nikolic really think that they are able to keep Kosovo in our country, they only want to rule.

Btw, Milosevic started a war against Albanians and he made ethnic cleansing. I don't deny that Albanians are doing much more worse things to us than Serbians did, and they are still doing it, but fact is that war was wrong decision, if Milosevic wanted to make Albanians return to Albania(which I really support) he could make them suffer economicaly.

And let me explain some things to u:
1) Zoran Djindjic was leader of our country from 2000 to 2003 when he was killed.
2) I didn't say that we didn't live better while Kostunica was prime minister(2003-2007), fact is that many people from democratic parties were in
DSS until Kostunica turn up his mind and became so selfish that no one can rule except him. There are still many good people in DSS who would do their job good, but unfortunatly their are blind... they can't see that Kostunica is just another liar.
3)If I do like u said all Serbians should do it would be just like this:
there was one little kid, one day a boy who was much stronger and older than kid came and took a ball from kid. Kid first started to cry, then he was angry and started to brake all things around him. In the end he stopped eating and died because he was taken a ball.Can u compare ur self with this kid?

4) THE MOST IMPORTANT:
I was listening to Kostunica and Nikolic and all others politicians, very careful!
I was thinking if that is true or not. In the one moment I really believed that Kostunica was saying true, but then I took a look on the things as they really are:
~USA is the most powerful country in the world, Russia can't do anything against USA.
~We live really bad.
~We were in war during last two decades of 90th century and we lost every single war!
~We were bombed by NATO for trying to make ethnic cleansing at Kosovo(sure that isn't real reason and everyone knows that!)
~Milosevic had to sign resolution 1244 and he gave Kosovo to NATO.
~Russia didn't do anything to help us.
~Standard of life in Serbia during ages of war was so decresed that u couldn't even buy a milk for you children.
~In 2000 Djindjic won on the elections,Milosevic tried to cheat but our people went on the streets and Milosevic's regin was ended.
~Serbia started to recover and people started to live better, no one didn't really care what will happen with Kosovo. Djindjic wanted to resolve that problem as soon as he was able to do it.
~Unfortunatly Djindjic was killed in 2003. Kostunica lead our country.
~What have he done? He made some very good moves to EU and he was very close to making Serbia EU country. But he stopped. Why? He wasn't able to catch Mladic? I don't think so! We could be EU country until 2007.
~Elections 2007: Democrats couldn't take over government without Kostunica. But Kostunica did't wanna let anyone to be prime minister except him??? why? Was that so important who is the leader of the country if job is done well?
~January 2008, elections for president: Tadic or Nikolic, EU or not EU, Kostunica didn't want to support Tadic even if Tadic had same stat about Kosovo as Kostunica did. But even without Kostunica's support Tadic won elections and it was clear that Serbian people want to go to EU.
~February 2008, Kosovo proclaims independence, Kostunica and Nikolic organize large national meeting during Tadic was trying to do something useful by lobing in the Romania.Huligans started destroying our city and ambassies of countries that excepted Kosovo's independence, Kostunica said that it is normal that some people are angry because of Kosovo and it is destroying our capitol is normal coz we lost Kosovo, so now we can lose everything? One man died during that meeting!!!! so, what? Kostunica said that it is normal???
~May/April 2008 we signed act with EU that will provide us much better life and easier way to EU.


THIS ARE FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I SAW EVERYTHING WHAT I WRITTEN UP(except Djindjic's assasination)!!!

[Slayzer]

What is going to happen next?

[OMGBergrush]

If Kostunica love Kosovo so much why did he kill Djindjic?
kostunica didnt kil djindjic. it was the same zemun clan with whom your beloved zoran djindjic made secret pacts on the days prior to the overthrow of milosevic. and on a side note djindjic was a usa/german spy.

Djindjic was the only person who could MAYBE keep Kosovo in our country.
this is pure lol...care to explain how?

The problem is that neither Kostunica nor Nikolic really think that they are able to keep Kosovo in our country, they only want to rule.
if kostunica wanted to rule so much why did he dissolve the government in which he would be prime minister for the next 4 years? you are so stupid its actually amusing

And let me explain some things to u:
1) Zoran Djindjic was leader of our country from 2000 to 2003 when he was killed.
Zoran Djindjic did not overthrow Milosevic it was Kostunica and the reason was because Kostunica was the only member of the opposition who was not compromised in any way which is not something that can be said about Djindjic who made deals with mafia bosses not to mention foreign offices

2) I didn't say that we didn't live better while Kostunica was prime minister(2003-2007), fact is that many people from democratic parties were in
DSS until Kostunica turn up his mind and became so selfish that no one can rule except him. There are still many good people in DSS who would do their job good, but unfortunatly their are blind... they can't see that Kostunica is just another liar.
actually kostunica was just purging his party of the scum which were there just for the benefits and not because of the politics.

3)If I do like u said all Serbians should do it would be just like this:
there was one little kid, one day a boy who was much stronger and older than kid came and took a ball from kid. Kid first started to cry, then he was angry and started to brake all things around him. In the end he stopped eating and died because he was taken a ball.Can u compare ur self with this kid?
you are an imbecile. you are saying that lazar hrebeljanovic shouldnt have faced the turks on kosovo because they were bigger and stronger? you are saying that serbs should have bowed down to austrohungarian demands because austrohungary was bigger and stronger? this just serves to prove how pathetic you are. you dont have an ounce of serbian blood in those foul traitor veins of yours

4) THE MOST IMPORTANT:
I was listening to Kostunica and Nikolic and all others politicians, very careful!
I was thinking if that is true or not. In the one moment I really believed that Kostunica was saying true, but then I took a look on the things as they really are:
this is going to be fun
~USA is the most powerful country in the world, Russia can't do anything against USA.
this is another one of your lolz. usa hasnt stop waging war for the last 20 years and is on the verge of economic collapse as was seen. furthermore its oil reserves are running low and the list of potential countries to invade is rather short. not to mention that its political credibility is so great that out of ~200 countries in world less than 40 support their cause to steal kosovo from us. while russia on the other had is constantly growing economically their president has an approval of 70% which is unheard of in the western world and they have the biggest supply of oil and gas and lumber and various rare materials. also they are the biggest country in the world ethnically homogeneous unlike the usa and have the biggest supply of nukes...not someone to **** with!
~We live really bad.
this is an outright lie. 10 yeas ago my father who has a ph.d. and had worked in the oil refinery had to save up a years worth of salaries to buy me a computer while today i bought it with 2 salaries from an icaffe. while 15 years ago we had to sell our car in order to buy food! just another proof that you are ignorant and stupid
~We were in war during last two decades of 90th century and we lost every single war!
that was yugoslavia and not serbia and those wars were settled with an agreement something which was done for kosovo but now the problem is that those who made that deal have violated it
~We were bombed by NATO for trying to make ethnic cleansing at Kosovo(sure that isn't real reason and everyone knows that!)
we were bombed in order to force our troops out so they can occupy the province and later give it autonomy as is evident today no humanitarian bull**** please
~Milosevic had to sign resolution 1244 and he gave Kosovo to NATO.
gave it as part of serbia something which doesnt seem to be the case today because the west is obviously determined to do whatever it takes [lie cheat bomb etc] to do us harm.
~Russia didn't do anything to help us.
they had their own troubles then not to mention lacking money military and vladimir putin to be of any real consideration
~Standard of life in Serbia during ages of war was so decresed that u couldn't even buy a milk for you children.
yeah but after kostunica won the elections and removed milosevic from power you can buy truckloads of milk no problem
~In 2000 Djindjic won on the elections,Milosevic tried to cheat but our people went on the streets and Milosevic's regin was ended.
kostunica won the elections and not djindjic. and the most importat reason milosevic fell was because of the strike in kolubara which left belgrade without electric power they sent the police to restore order but then velja ilic and his guys came armed to the teeth and prevented the strike from collapsing.
~Serbia started to recover and people started to live better, no one didn't really care what will happen with Kosovo. Djindjic wanted to resolve that problem as soon as he was able to do it.
maybe you didnt care but i can assure you that all people who love serbia did care so dont write in my name you sack of human tardation
~Unfortunatly Djindjic was killed in 2003. Kostunica lead our country.
a statement so absurd i have to call you an imbecile once more
~What have he done? He made some very good moves to EU and he was very close to making Serbia EU country. But he stopped. Why? He wasn't able to catch Mladic? I don't think so! We could be EU country until 2007.
your perception of real life and politics is so distorted by your stupidity its actually funny. you realy think serbia could have entered the eu before bulgaria and romania? idiot.
~Elections 2007: Democrats couldn't take over government without Kostunica. But Kostunica did't wanna let anyone to be prime minister except him??? why? Was that so important who is the leader of the country if job is done well?
of course it was important. ds already had the presidency so to give the seat of the premier to them too would give them too much power and they couldnt be trusted which was proven when they renounced kosovo over some false promises from the eu
~January 2008, elections for president: Tadic or Nikolic, EU or not EU, Kostunica didn't want to support Tadic even if Tadic had same stat about Kosovo as Kostunica did. But even without Kostunica's support Tadic won elections and it was clear that Serbian people want to go to EU.
kostunica didnt want to support tadic but he didnt tell his voters to not spoport he said decide for yourselves and the majority of his votes went to tadic because back they still trusted him. i guess kostunica didnt and he was right
~February 2008, Kosovo proclaims independence, Kostunica and Nikolic organize large national meeting during Tadic was trying to do something useful by lobing in the Romania.Huligans started destroying our city and ambassies of countries that excepted Kosovo's independence, Kostunica said that it is normal that some people are angry because of Kosovo and it is destroying our capitol is normal coz we lost Kosovo, so now we can lose everything? One man died during that meeting!!!! so, what? Kostunica said that it is normal???
Tadic was trying to do something useful by lobing in the Romania is the stupidest thing i heard this week. what is more important than the integrity of the nation you are president of? a visit to romania? dont think so. damn straight it was normal i was there during the rioting and we sent a clear message to the west that we had enough of their ****

~May/April 2008 we signed act with EU that will provide us much better life and easier way to EU.
we dot need the eu we need money. and the eu is not the only place on earth. money can come from russia or china it can even come from south america or africa for all i care. the point s that some people ask a lot more in return for the money than others. some want to give you money for a few concessions while others want to steal 1/5 of your territory for it. i think the choice is obvious

THIS ARE FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I SAW EVERYTHING WHAT I WRITTEN UP(except Djindjic's assasination)!!!
unfortunately those were not facts but rather your distorted picture of reality. you are quite obviously a supporter of ldp considering your immeasurable hatred towards kostunica and let me tell you something about ceda jovanovic. when asked about his role in doing zora djindjic;s dirty work he answered well someoe has to do that[the dirty work]. if you ever stop by novi sad you can ask me to print you out an attest of stupidity so you can brag to all your friends that you are a qualified moron

[[GOD]Marko]

This is SPARTA! xD

[klemen]

Marko;776391']This is SPARTA! xD

This is spam.

[Slayzer]

kostunica didnt kil djindjic. it was the same zemun clan with whom your beloved zoran djindjic made secret pacts on the days prior to the overthrow of milosevic. and on a side note djindjic was a usa/german spy.


this is pure lol...care to explain how?


if kostunica wanted to rule so much why did he dissolve the government in which he would be prime minister for the next 4 years? you are so stupid its actually amusing


Zoran Djindjic did not overthrow Milosevic it was Kostunica and the reason was because Kostunica was the only member of the opposition who was not compromised in any way which is not something that can be said about Djindjic who made deals with mafia bosses not to mention foreign offices


actually kostunica was just purging his party of the scum which were there just for the benefits and not because of the politics.


you are an imbecile. you are saying that lazar hrebeljanovic shouldnt have faced the turks on kosovo because they were bigger and stronger? you are saying that serbs should have bowed down to austrohungarian demands because austrohungary was bigger and stronger? this just serves to prove how pathetic you are. you dont have an ounce of serbian blood in those foul traitor veins of yours


this is going to be fun

this is another one of your lolz. usa hasnt stop waging war for the last 20 years and is on the verge of economic collapse as was seen. furthermore its oil reserves are running low and the list of potential countries to invade is rather short. not to mention that its political credibility is so great that out of ~200 countries in world less than 40 support their cause to steal kosovo from us. while russia on the other had is constantly growing economically their president has an approval of 70% which is unheard of in the western world and they have the biggest supply of oil and gas and lumber and various rare materials. also they are the biggest country in the world ethnically homogeneous unlike the usa and have the biggest supply of nukes...not someone to **** with!

this is an outright lie. 10 yeas ago my father who has a ph.d. and had worked in the oil refinery had to save up a years worth of salaries to buy me a computer while today i bought it with 2 salaries from an icaffe. while 15 years ago we had to sell our car in order to buy food! just another proof that you are ignorant and stupid

that was yugoslavia and not serbia and those wars were settled with an agreement something which was done for kosovo but now the problem is that those who made that deal have violated it

we were bombed in order to force our troops out so they can occupy the province and later give it autonomy as is evident today no humanitarian bull**** please

gave it as part of serbia something which doesnt seem to be the case today because the west is obviously determined to do whatever it takes [lie cheat bomb etc] to do us harm.

they had their own troubles then not to mention lacking money military and vladimir putin to be of any real consideration

yeah but after kostunica won the elections and removed milosevic from power you can buy truckloads of milk no problem

kostunica won the elections and not djindjic. and the most importat reason milosevic fell was because of the strike in kolubara which left belgrade without electric power they sent the police to restore order but then velja ilic and his guys came armed to the teeth and prevented the strike from collapsing.

maybe you didnt care but i can assure you that all people who love serbia did care so dont write in my name you sack of human tardation

a statement so absurd i have to call you an imbecile once more

your perception of real life and politics is so distorted by your stupidity its actually funny. you realy think serbia could have entered the eu before bulgaria and romania? idiot.

of course it was important. ds already had the presidency so to give the seat of the premier to them too would give them too much power and they couldnt be trusted which was proven when they renounced kosovo over some false promises from the eu

kostunica didnt want to support tadic but he didnt tell his voters to not spoport he said decide for yourselves and the majority of his votes went to tadic because back they still trusted him. i guess kostunica didnt and he was right

Tadic was trying to do something useful by lobing in the Romania is the stupidest thing i heard this week. what is more important than the integrity of the nation you are president of? a visit to romania? dont think so. damn straight it was normal i was there during the rioting and we sent a clear message to the west that we had enough of their ****


we dot need the eu we need money. and the eu is not the only place on earth. money can come from russia or china it can even come from south america or africa for all i care. the point s that some people ask a lot more in return for the money than others. some want to give you money for a few concessions while others want to steal 1/5 of your territory for it. i think the choice is obvious


unfortunately those were not facts but rather your distorted picture of reality. you are quite obviously a supporter of ldp considering your immeasurable hatred towards kostunica and let me tell you something about ceda jovanovic. when asked about his role in doing zora djindjic;s dirty work he answered well someoe has to do that[the dirty work]. if you ever stop by novi sad you can ask me to print you out an attest of stupidity so you can brag to all your friends that you are a qualified moron

I saw many people that think like you and they are ready to kill anyone who says that he doesn't care about Kosovo!!! And don't tell me that I am liar coz I SAW THOSE PEOPLE!!! That things u said are just lies and way to get more voters! There are no proofs for anything u said here. And in many things u are wrong so wrong that I am afraid anyone can change ur states.

Still, Tadic won by 50% and Nikolic had 47%. Would you call 50% of our people traitors?! Just because they wanna live better, and they are not enough stupid to believe Kostunica and Nikolic. The best proof for this is the result of this elections 39% DS and only 29% SRS.

As u can see I never called u names! While u did it in every post!
I just don't want to go near your level.

[OMGBergrush]

Still, Tadic won by 50% and Nikolic had 47%. Would you call 50% of our people traitors?! Just because they wanna live better, and they are not enough stupid to believe Kostunica and Nikolic. The best proof for this is the result of this elections 39% DS and only 29% SRS.
the difference was less than 2% about 1-1.5% and the deciding factor were dss voters since sps gave their votes to srs and others gave them to ds so if you look at the statistics now its obvious that the majority of dss votes went to tadic. mine did too back then but now i regret that decision

As u can see I never called u names! While u did it in every post!
I just don't want to go near your level.
i have nothing to be ashamed of unlike you

[Slayzer]

[QUOTE=OMGBergrush;

i have nothing to be ashamed of unlike you[/QUOTE]

Thats the worst because u should be!

[fatman69]

man just drop the arguing with berg, you are dealing with the being that know everything bettter than you, especially about the power of any country in the worlds,cuz you know those facts are just so public so any1 using the internet could find out anything about any country...

i'm stepping out of this argument, as many times before, it lost is beauty, and berg should definetly some infractions for his language. although this topic didn't quite interest me, the outcome of these elections have an effect for the entire region. too bad some of the people in this debate constantly refuse to get out of their box of ignorance and accept that their vision of the world around isn't the final version, which kinda ruins the whole deal, it's sad that people seldom use these debates as a way to broaden their picture of the world around...

[OneTrickBurny]

It doesn't take long for any thread like this to be consumed by Berg.

Please, do not open such threads.

[VengefulSpammer]

OMGBergconsumer

[OMGBergrush]

*berg uses dark ritual on political threads
*berg gains 250 mana
*berg casts chain lightning on slayzer
*berg pwns slayzer for an extra 7 gold

[Slayzer]

Slayzer ended Bergs mega kill for an extra of 450 gold!

[OneTrickBurny]

Slayzer's head was worth only 7 gold?

[VengefulSpammer]

my head is not worth at all

[Slayzer]

lol

[pecony_92]

SPAM is worth +1 post
anyway lets count 77+30+20+2 = 129 that makes new goverment(SRS, DSS-NS, SPS and sandzak party) so Tadic cant prevent them to make goverment so in fact he losed this elections
GG NO RE
KILL DA IP

[VengefulSpammer]

ye spam is worth +1 post

[Slayzer]

SPAM is worth +1 post
anyway lets count 77+30+20+2 = 129 that makes new goverment(SRS, DSS-NS, SPS and sandzak party) so Tadic cant prevent them to make goverment so in fact he losed this elections
GG NO RE
KILL DA IP


Have anyone from SPS ever said that they will make coalition with SRS and DSS?

[pecony_92]

Have anyone from SPS ever said that they will make coalition with SRS and DSS?
yes after elections Ivica Dacic told he will enter in talks with V.K

[Slayzer]

to enter talks isn't same as making a government!

[OMGBergrush]

to enter talks isn't same as making a government!

they WILL form a nationalist government and you liberal *****es are going to cry your asses off while i laugh. come to think of it im laughing even now...hahahahahaHAHAHAHA!

[OneTrickBurny]

Are you drunk?

[-eXtasY-]

I know from the horses mouth that 99% SPS will form coalition with DS BOTH in town and republic level. And guess why? well because they've got very nice amount of money in change ;)

[OMGBergrush]

I know from the horses mouth that 99% SPS will form coalition with DS BOTH in town and republic level. And guess why? well because they've got very nice amount of money in change ;)

ive got some inside info too and it says sps will join kostunica and it made sense.
1st of all it was he who invited them in the last government which btw was during the time when everyone was pissing on sps.
2nd they had some discussions with dss and none with any other party.
3rd if sps would sign a deal with tadic and especially jovanovic they wont pass the census on the next elections.
4th sps has already given support to the radicals in belgrade so that vucic would be the mayor
5th if by any chance sps signs a deal with tadic that automatically excludes ldp from that government because they stated on multiple occasions that they will have nothing to do with ldp because ceda was the one who tricked milosevic into giving himself up so djindjic could send him to the hague something which was done behind the back of vojislav kostunica.

so no, sps wont form a coalition with ds and this time tadic will be in the opposition with his "majority" where he can learn how radicals felt for the past 8 years.

[fatman69]

they WILL form a nationalist government and you liberal *****es are going to cry your asses off while i laugh. come to think of it im laughing even now...hahahahahaHAHAHAHA!

and if you get your nationalist goverment, im gonna be laughing my ass off for at least a decade. let me just say that most of the croatia actually hopes that the radicals shall prevail, you know why? cuz it means another 5-10 years of decadence for serbia (i don't need to explain where these thoughts for serbia come from). you really can't see where your radicalism is leading you, but what the hell, go, find out on your own....

it will be a real shame if it comes to that, bcuz i saw a lot of serbs on this forum that are actually quite ok, that even see smth beside their national pride, that could make even nice neighbours, but i really hope that radicals do get their own country for 10 years just to see what ****land serbia will become

[Novica89]

Natinal pride CAN"T BE BOUGHT BY MONEY OR SOME ****TY PROMISSES OF A BETTER LIFE Well,it CAN be bought probably,cuz 38% of people voted for "leave the part of our country for some ****ing retards to control it and for a graditude u will be joined to EU".I WILL NEVER DO THAT AS WONT THE MOST OF THE PEOPLE OF SERBIA THAT HAVE PRIDE,BRAIN,REASONABLE THOUGHTS AND BRAVERY...
If that means raging another war **** IT,RAGE IT!!!!

Hell,i will be the first one to join such army that will go to Kosovo in order to FREE it!!

And for all this skinny "man" children that WINE about going to EU,on saturday nights wear PINK SHIRTS when going out to town,mommy and daddy provide money for everything etc.....You are weak ass *****es,who never went into a fight and all that u did all of your miserable life is saying yes to ALL PERSONS WHO CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH MONEY,EVEN IF THAT MEANT GIVING YOUR ASS TO THEM!!!U don't even know what the word POLITICS MEAN and you want to make some seriouse discussions abput some subjects that u heard on TV which some politician MORON said about a better life.....Well,let me put it this way....IQ of a retarded pearson is below 40....Yours is maybe 25...It kinda goes to this: retards want to act like normal persons and thats why they come to "SERIOUSE DISCUSSIONS" (lol) with 13-14 years old....

Out of this "seriouse discussions"

[[GOD]Marko]

They play Divide and Conquer
and its working...

[Novica89]

And one more thing....Most of you that wrote about EU probably live better than i do with salary less than 200 euros on 4 persons....So i will say this too:
I WOULD RATHERLY LIVE WITH 200 EUROS A MONTH FOR 4 PERSONS IN A FAMILLY,WITH A KOSOVO AS PART OF SERBIA,THAN WITH 300 EUROS A MONTH(LETS FACE IT,EVEN 50% MORE IS TOO MUCH FOR "EU")BUT WITH KOSOVO CONTROLED BY SOME ****ING MORONS THAT HAVE AVERAGE IQ OF A BRAINLESS CHILD

[Slayzer]

Natinal pride CAN"T BE BOUGHT BY MONEY OR SOME ****TY PROMISSES OF A BETTER LIFE Well,it CAN be bought probably,cuz 38% of people voted for "leave the part of our country for some ****ing retards to control it and for a graditude u will be joined to EU".I WILL NEVER DO THAT AS WONT THE MOST OF THE PEOPLE OF SERBIA THAT HAVE PRIDE,BRAIN,REASONABLE THOUGHTS AND BRAVERY...
If that means raging another war **** IT,RAGE IT!!!!

Hell,i will be the first one to join such army that will go to Kosovo in order to FREE it!!

And for all this skinny "man" children that WINE about going to EU,on saturday nights wear PINK SHIRTS when going out to town,mommy and daddy provide money for everything etc.....You are weak ass *****es,who never went into a fight and all that u did all of your miserable life is saying yes to ALL PERSONS WHO CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH MONEY,EVEN IF THAT MEANT GIVING YOUR ASS TO THEM!!!U don't even know what the word POLITICS MEAN and you want to make some seriouse discussions abput some subjects that u heard on TV which some politician MORON said about a better life.....Well,let me put it this way....IQ of a retarded pearson is below 40....Yours is maybe 25...It kinda goes to this: retards want to act like normal persons and thats why they come to "SERIOUSE DISCUSSIONS" (lol) with 13-14 years old....

Out of this "seriouse discussions"

(Excuse me for this)
Man, u are real retard, 5% voted for leaving Kosovo. Yo are blind if u can't see that SRS and DSS are lieing about Kosovo, how are they going to keep it??? They don't even have plan. They will just brake down agreements with EU, let country isolated and make Irak from Serbia. After 5 years they will be heavily beaten on elections but it would be too late for us normal people to live like we want to live.
We saw how it is to live without everything except PRIDE. That wasn't life that was battle for surviving.

btw u are Partizan fan, Partizan won title because DSS took over it. When are other clubs going to win our league?! Never, until politicians get off the sport, but as I can see most of the Partizan fans support DSS and SRS so we will see what will happen. U will maybe enter champions league, but next year u are going down because Red star will win championship and everything will be as it was.

[Novica89]

(Excuse me for this)
Man, u are real retard, 5% voted for leaving Kosovo. Yo are blind if u can't see that SRS and DSS are lieing about Kosovo, how are they going to keep it??? They don't even have plan. They will just brake down agreements with EU, let country isolated and make Irak from Serbia. After 5 years they will be heavily beaten on elections but it would be too late for us normal people to live like we want to live.
We saw how it is to live without everything except PRIDE. That wasn't life that was battle for surviving.

btw u are Partizan fan, Partizan won title because DSS took over it. When are other clubs going to win our league?! Never, until politicians get off the sport, but as I can see most of the Partizan fans support DSS and SRS so we will see what will happen. U will maybe enter champions league, but next year u are going down because Red star will win championship and everything will be as it was.


Ahh,that is why u are mad at the DSS and SRS....Cuz of Red Star not winning the league....Oh yes,now who is messing sports with politics??

Dont want any discussions with you,no point arguing with a child..

[Slayzer]

lol child?! And what age are u?! 18?!19?!

[Bonzy]

Man Slayzer your points were really nice until you brought up that DSS-Partizan cr@p... I love it when I see someone talking about propaganda and coruption without knowing **** about it , really makes me laugh...

[OMGBergrush]

Dont want any discussions with you,no point arguing with a child..

He is not a child he is just stupid as is evident

[[GOD]Marko]

Not stupid. He just likes soccer x)
People are not stupid. They are just miss informed, or in love.

[OneTrickBurny]

Marko;777201']Not stupid. He just likes soccer x)
People are not stupid. They are just miss informed, or in love.

No, people are generally stupid, it's a fact.

[fatman69]

Natinal pride CAN"T BE BOUGHT BY MONEY OR SOME ****TY PROMISSES OF A BETTER LIFE Well,it CAN be bought probably,cuz 38% of people voted for "leave the part of our country for some ****ing retards to control it and for a graditude u will be joined to EU".I WILL NEVER DO THAT AS WONT THE MOST OF THE PEOPLE OF SERBIA THAT HAVE PRIDE,BRAIN,REASONABLE THOUGHTS AND BRAVERY...
If that means raging another war **** IT,RAGE IT!!!!

Hell,i will be the first one to join such army that will go to Kosovo in order to FREE it!!

And for all this skinny "man" children that WINE about going to EU,on saturday nights wear PINK SHIRTS when going out to town,mommy and daddy provide money for everything etc.....You are weak ass *****es,who never went into a fight and all that u did all of your miserable life is saying yes to ALL PERSONS WHO CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH MONEY,EVEN IF THAT MEANT GIVING YOUR ASS TO THEM!!!U don't even know what the word POLITICS MEAN and you want to make some seriouse discussions abput some subjects that u heard on TV which some politician MORON said about a better life.....Well,let me put it this way....IQ of a retarded pearson is below 40....Yours is maybe 25...It kinda goes to this: retards want to act like normal persons and thats why they come to "SERIOUSE DISCUSSIONS" (lol) with 13-14 years old....

Out of this "seriouse discussions"

man if serbia is made of people like you, god bless your radicals!! let them take you to another dark ages, then you'll see things...

Novica, let me just ask you one simple question, does Kosovo, or your national pride, put bread on your table, or will it put your kids through school??

[OMGBergrush]

Novica, let me just ask you one simple question, does Kosovo, or your national pride, put bread on your table, or will it put your kids through school??

pride doesnt put bread on your table your work does that. but look at it the other way your work doesnt keep kosovo in your country. those 2 things are completely different and cant be compared. and what are you insinuating? that we in serbia cant put bread on our tables without the help from EU? your pretensions are laughable just like you way of reasoning things

[fatman69]

it was directed to novica, but as you 2 seem to think alike, i can explain...

that bread on the table is just a metaphor, but yes, i'm insinuating that life in your country isn't too great ,and with the new constant increases in prices of practically anything, it won't get any easier, if you think you country can stand alone, then think again. the money, and the jobs come from the investments. if you got an unstable region, like serbia with or without kosovo is, then no1 in the right mind would waste their efforts to make investments in such a country if a more acceptable country is in vicinity (Cro,Romania,Bulgaria).

now i know what your reply would be, we don't need outer investments, we got cash flow from Russia, but that makes you a Russian slave now doesn't it, cuz you're suddenly dependant of their enterprise.

and there's another solution=> export. but there is a catch, where to export? again to Russia, again increasing the dependance of one country? or to some EU countries? ofc by that time you are probably so uncompetetive to products from EU countries due to "no-tax" between Eu countries, due to some embargos or trade limitations EU has imposed cuz of some wars you might wage over Kosovo. and without the flow of foreign capital, how should the economy prosper?? on it's own like you see your country?

ofc, you may say, you got natural resources, you got factories. yeah, that's all great, but what are you gonna do with the products? sell them to your people over and over again? without the foreign market no economy can go forward, and with that politics i don't see any new markets arising soon. or do you suppose the world will accept "supperior serbian products" although the whole taxing made them like 35% more expensive?believe me there is no future in economical isolation or isolation of any kind...

[Slayzer]

pride doesnt put bread on your table your work does that. but look at it the other way your work doesnt keep kosovo in your country. those 2 things are completely different and cant be compared. and what are you insinuating? that we in serbia cant put bread on our tables without the help from EU? your pretensions are laughable just like you way of reasoning things

Bulgaria and Romania were 10 years behind us(economical) and now we are 5 years behind them where are we going to be in next 10 years?! 50 years behind Albania?! So how is that going to help u to keep Kosovo ours?!

The point is that u don't want to read what I write, I have never said that Kosovo shouldn't belong to Serbia! I just said that ur way of keeping Kosovo in our country is mindless. U are going to say to every single European "Kosovo is Serbia!"?! Omg so what?! Do u really think that they really care about us? Do u really think that Russia cares about us?! If do why are they keeping our most wanted criminals in their country?

~Thing I was trying to say is that u won't do anything by words, u have to work on it not just to lay down and say Kosovo is Serbian and expect from America to give back Kosovo!

Btw, I really don't understand why are u blaming EU, it isn't country so it can't
recognize Kosovo as independent country, EU is more like financial organization.

[OMGBergrush]

if you got an unstable region, like serbia with or without kosovo is, then no1 in the right mind would waste their efforts to make investments in such a country if a more acceptable country is in vicinity (Cro,Romania,Bulgaria).
and you think people will invest because they like us? or because they like our politics? religion? money comes from investments because those who invest dont want their money to stand still. they want to make more money and since everything is pretty much sold out in the west they will invest here all that matters is country stability

now i know what your reply would be, we don't need outer investments, we got cash flow from Russia, but that makes you a Russian slave now doesn't it, cuz you're suddenly dependant of their enterprise.
id rather be dependent on someone who supports us over our territorial integrity than to rely on someone who steals our land. again an obvious choice

and there's another solution=> export. but there is a catch, where to export? again to Russia, again increasing the dependance of one country? or to some EU countries? ofc by that time you are probably so uncompetetive to products from EU countries due to "no-tax" between Eu countries, due to some embargos or trade limitations EU has imposed cuz of some wars you might wage over Kosovo. and without the flow of foreign capital, how should the economy prosper?? on it's own like you see your country?
ofc, you may say, you got natural resources, you got factories. yeah, that's all great, but what are you gonna do with the products? sell them to your people over and over again? without the foreign market no economy can go forward, and with that politics i don't see any new markets arising soon. or do you suppose the world will accept "supperior serbian products" although the whole taxing made them like 35% more expensive?believe me there is no future in economical isolation or isolation of any kind...
we already have a no-tax system with russia and a lot of our stuff goes there and we are slowly reducing our trade towards the west. we are not a big country so we are not a big market we can easily trade with just 2-3 big states and export all we need. russia china india northern africa some in the middle east south america cuba even some neighbors like romania and greece they are all willing to trade with us so we dont have to rely on eu

Bulgaria and Romania were 10 years behind us(economical) and now we are 5 years behind them where are we going to be in next 10 years?! 50 years behind Albania?! So how is that going to help u to keep Kosovo ours?!
this is not a fact its your personal opinion and just like your reasoning its wrong so do yourself a favor and just dont write such crap

Do u really think that they really care about us? Do u really think that Russia cares about us?!
i dont give a **** about their personal opinions its their politics that concern me and if you cant notice that politically the eu is our enemy while russia is our political ally than just go shoot yourself

If do why are they keeping our most wanted criminals in their country?
you are referring to the milosevic family here. you think they are criminals well they got a lot on them to be sure but i still think bigger criminals are ceda jovanovic and natasa kandic who receive money from the west in order to destabilize and divide serbia. at least milosevic wasnt a traitor unlike the scum you support today.

Thing I was trying to say is that u won't do anything by words, u have to work on it not just to lay down and say Kosovo is Serbian and expect from America to give back Kosovo!
well this is exactly what boris tadic is doing. he is saying he supports kosovo all the time but when the time to act comes he just bows down to any demand the west puts before him. what a spines coward...or a traitor

Btw, I really don't understand why are u blaming EU, it isn't country so it can't
recognize Kosovo as independent country, EU is more like financial organization.
if its just a financial organization then who gave it the right to determine the status of our own province? imagine if you were in court and your presiding judge turned out to be a bank manager. thats just absurd but then again so is everything you write because you lack brain

[Slayzer]

What the hell are u talking about?! Eu didn't say anything about Kosovo.
And what do u mean when u say time to act?! To do what?! Go to war?

[fatman69]

yea ofc, west can't find 10 million people market anywhere else so it's gonna look to serbia... people don't invest some cash into a market of a certain country based on whethere they like it or not, it's based on trade agreements between the 2 countries, based on available work force, stability of the region, based on the consequences that are a by-product of such a trade. if your country isnt stable, and has is uncompetetive due to taxing with other countries, why would any1 invest there?

you actually say what i'm saying only you don't understand what it brings. radical way of thinking is leading serbia into isolation, both economical and social. you are just jumping to be Russia's satelite country. go check how Mongolia did in that position to USSR, it's not the same thing but it won't be too different either.

[milorad23]

a sto vi pricate eng ? ...

jasno ko dan ko ce u koaliciju SRS DSS SPS, naravno ukoliko ne bude neka ucena ili novi "uslovi" prijateljske nam EU , pa da dacic ode sa DS ....
a sto se tice eu video sam da vam je berg odrzao par lepih lekcija.slusajte momka

a ovi sto vicu da je ds pobednik ,alo pa njih je bilo 5 u koalciji....jeste to zaboravili ? a sta da su radikali isli u koaliciju sa DSS ??
PRAVO stanje se pokazalo u prvom krugu predsednickih izbora, to je pravi rezultat. a posle sto cedini narkici "ne zele u 90e" pa glasaju za tadica...
srbija jeste podeljena na pola , mene interesuje kako ova zuta polovina jos nije skontala neke stvari...pogotovo onaj deo kad se spominje ZLATNA eu..

[OMGBergrush]

a sto vi pricate eng ? ...

zato sto su pravila ovog foruma english only bez obzira koji je thread u pitanju

[OMGBergrush]

go check how Mongolia did in that position to USSR, it's not the same thing but it won't be too different either.

before its alliance with ussr mongolia was a ****ty backwater that even lacked independence. under soviet banned they developed the industry built up a railway link between russia and china and built up cities rather than living in tents. not to mention being aided by ussr 2x against the japanese. so whats your point?

[pecony_92]

i think its in his nick BTW Sports are for sports section, but THIS IS SPARTA
as you see only one right here are Novice and Berg OMG XDD
SPS*DSS*SRS coalition is best in the momment and yes Tadic is moron BB All

[fatman69]

i was refering to their collapse their economy suffered after independence... without the financial aid (not investments, aid) of USSR that country couldn't breathe, so tell me how exactly did they help them. it was agricultural ****landsville before soviets, but wise soviets in their efforts to make it industrial country like other soviet countries were, they killed only good thing about their economy at that time- livestock farming, which then lead to many economical problems. so how exactly did they do them good? the transition from traditional yurt housing to modern houses and buildings was just a matter of time, and that railway was made just to shorten their way to Vladivostok, ofc it helped Mongolia too but then it's just a pointer how they improved their life only when it suited their interest.

and in short, they made Mongolian economy totally dependant of Russian, but i guess that's what u want

[Slayzer]

If u like Kosovo so much why didn't u go and live there?!

[OMGBergrush]

i was refering to their collapse their economy suffered after independence... without the financial aid (not investments, aid) of USSR that country couldn't breathe

and let me remind you that in the beginning of the 20th century serbia was almost completely reliant on austrohungary for its export so when they illegally annexed bosnia they used that to embargo serbia hoping they would submit but we just turn our attention to greece and north africa [big thanks to laza pacu btw] and became even stronger than before the embargo. the world is a big place and small nations like us have no problems finding alternatives

[OMGBergrush]

If u like Kosovo so much why didn't u go and live there?!

because its infested with shiptars determined to kill serbs and they are supported by the usa and their eu puppets

[Slayzer]

because its infested with shiptars determined to kill serbs and they are supported by the usa and their eu puppets

correct, and who's fault is that there are so many Albanians on the Kosovo?!

[pecony_92]

generaly its Turks i dont have time to write that

[VengefulSpammer]

dont write i enjoy watching their verbal duel

[Slayzer]

generaly its Turks i dont have time to write that

Turks didn't brought Albanians to Kosovo, they were at the Balkans before Slavic people came. When Slavic came they went to the mountains. In that thime they were not muslims. Tito let them to make Kosovo their land because in that time there was some dictator who was leading Albania(don't know what was his name)...

[Bonzy]

tito opened borders to kosovo from albania , so i blame him for such a number of albanians on kosovo. and no , if albanians are ilyrians or whatever than im a f0cking santa

[Star.Fighter]

Read history books pls, Cheers !

[Slayzer]

tito opened borders to kosovo from albania , so i blame him for such a number of albanians on kosovo. and no , if albanians are ilyrians or whatever than im a f0cking santa

well, from now we will call u santa:D

[OMGBergrush]

well, from now we will call u santa:D

bonzy is right and you should stfu already

[Slayzer]

Well u can't lie so much, Albanains are sons of ilirians thats even written in our books. But they weren't at Kosovo from 7th century.

[OMGBergrush]

Well u can't lie so much, Albanains are sons of ilirians thats even written in our books. But they weren't at Kosovo from 7th century.

you know im really starting to think that you are actually an albanian. considering how much you hate serbia it wouldnt surprise me in the slightest

[Slayzer]

I am not Serb because I am telling the truth?!
You are shame of our country! People like you would sell nation because of pride!

[pecony_92]

damn u sound like thrall stoled your aka but dont worry be happy i will unh4x asap. Your Doctor P. (ginecolog)...
Arhhhm sorry for THAT
Turks let Albanians to harass Serbians after First Great Migration of Serbs and from then they started controling THe Pecka Patrijarsija and letteed albanians to come in Serbians home that is how it began

[Slayzer]

btw, it's pointless to debate with so empty-headed persons like u.
If we are going to be lead by people who u support than we will have pride but we won't have anything else, people who are able to get out of country will do that as soon as possible and others will have to dream about normal life, and will never have anything except pride. Oh, sorry you are right why should we live good life and have everything we need if we can have Kosovo (in our hearts)?

[Slayzer]

damn u sound like thrall stoled your aka but dont worry be happy i will unh4x asap. Your Doctor P. (ginecolog)...
Arhhhm sorry for THAT
Turks let Albanians to harass Serbians after First Great Migration of Serbs and from then they started controling THe Pecka Patrijarsija and letteed albanians to come in Serbians home that is how it began

Damn, why isn't my scanner working, are you sure that u didn't miss some lessons from history?
Albanians got their country in 1912(or something like that) and their country is same size now as it was in 1912.After WW1 there were no Albanians at whole Yugoslavia's territory!

[Slayzer]

damn u sound like thrall stoled your aka but dont worry be happy i will unh4x asap. Your Doctor P. (ginecolog)...
Arhhhm sorry for THAT
Turks let Albanians to harass Serbians after First Great Migration of Serbs and from then they started controling THe Pecka Patrijarsija and letteed albanians to come in Serbians home that is how it began

And hello smart boy do u have any plan of retrieving Kosovo????
?!
Do you?
....I can't hear u... If the only thing you are going to do to make Kosovo return to Serbia is to destroy our economy and not to cooperate with EU than u really are (excuse me but I really can't find any word to change this one) retard.

[OMGBergrush]

After WW1 there were no Albanians at whole Yugoslavia's territory!

this is ABSURD!
and since i already explain how we are not economically dependent on europe and that the world is quite big i will just repeat that you are tard once more

[pecony_92]

i Think mighty EDIT is made

[Slayzer]

Btw, Russia sold Alaska because they didn't have money.

[OMGBergrush]

Btw, Russia sold Alaska because they didn't have money.

that was like 200 years ago and they sold it because they saw no need for it considering how they already spanned like half the world in length and there were at that time no valuable resources found in alaska except fur which they already had plenty in siberia. why dont you try again tard?

[Bonzy]

there is no reason for insulting really because of conflict of opinions -.-

[OMGBergrush]

there is no reason for insulting really because of conflict of opinions -.-

opinion is one thing and stupidity is another. you may disagree over color preference but if you claim that 1+1=3 and that its your right to have such an opinion then you deserve to be called a tard. im referring of course to slayzer

[Francesko[JSO]]

I really can't understand some people when they talk Europe this Europe that... What brings europe, yes it brings couple of miliards in 5 years time period, but how does the country own after that? Huh, no one thought like that? In this time Serbia owns 22 miliards of dollars, and remember when Milosevic left on 2000 we had + 10 miliards in our budget... But what can a country do after 20 and more countries bombards her for 4 months? And do damage around of 300 miliards of dollars? After that bunch of American idiots come here and **** to us for human rights etc etc.
I would gladly curse you bunch of dum ****heads withouth their own opinion, who educate themselves from TV, or from their relatives which were 90% the worst comunists, and now u will sell us the story of democracy? Go to your beauty europe, and do yobs that no1 else wants to do, clean septic tanks, work in some farm and clean after animals do their thing, be the person on who some dum fatt arrogant dumbass will heal his komplexes... After that you will get maybe twice money as if u will get in serbia, not including place to live, taxes, food, electricity, water...
So cut the crap with te MIGHTY EU STORY because u make me sick, at least come here and make some arguments why we MUST get in EU. Untill then I will be in my country where no1 will comand me what to do, I will spit on the street I will piss wherever I want, I will yell I will fire from firearms, call me savage, but I like it like that, and I don't plan to change it soon
Polish and Lituanian people can say how much their life is better after their country joined the EU...
And don't even ask me to talk about Kosovo, otherwise I will spend here all night.

[Francesko[JSO]]

correct, and who's fault is that there are so many Albanians on the Kosovo?!

Tito's and NATO's
1)Tito is because he opened the borders(after WWII and 20 years after) for poor shiptars with 10 kids on their back, and with no bread to eat, after that every citizen in former SFRJ HAD to give 10% of his sallary for them for a long period of time.
2)In 1998 and 1999 Yugoslav army badly defeated the so called OVK, killed their many solders who were no solders, who were bunch of kids who hadn't anything to eat and joined the OVK so at least they will not starve. The famous Red Berrets with the brigads of 100 highly trained people all profesionals, prearranged by the regions completely controlled THE WHOLE TERITORY OF KOSOVO. Because nato have base BONESTEAL in Kosovo they made a classic scene, which of course they represented Serbians as killers of innocent people(all people found dead where solders killed in battles, who were undreesed like solders, and over their dead bodyes they dresses them like civilians, no bullet holes were on the clothes) After that famous scenario, catastrofal bombarding of countries who were together SIXHUNRET TIMES STRONGER THAN YUGOSLAVIA. And after that some1 will tell me to join the NATO, who killed 3000 innocent civilians during bombarding, and what was their answer?

Collateral damage???????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????

[V.V.V]

Serbians are such whiners....
Not to sound offensive, but you portray your nation as this "Goldlike" place, as this Peaceful wonderful place....

I will personally be very glad if you never have a chance of Joining EU, for simple reasons that it will benefit you too much, and will give you a voice in EU matters, which with all due respect no one wants, I mean who wants to hear a Radical Country go on, and on and on about their accomplishments and their purity, without naming their faults or any defeat in their history.

Now, you say "Whats with Europe this, and Europe that", If you don't know nothing about EU thats one thing, but Criticizing EU and knowing nothing is just plain retardness.

First of all, in this modern world of globally competitive market, Serbia will never, ever have a chance of competing with any state whatsoever. However, with the EU and you will have a much better chance against super powers such as China and USA.

I cannot understand how you still can whine about Kosovo, I mean get over it, you simply lost it, no chance you will ever get it back, no chance, never ever, no way Hoze, uh-uh, never.

Just move on develop rather then just stand there and whine about how things are done unfair towards your country.

I'll highlight this sentence again "Serbian are such Whiners."

[Francesko[JSO]]

I don't want to argue with a Shiptar sick tranvestit, so go the hell out of this theme, because from your mouth doesnt come words, it comes something else, which doesnt smell so preety
MARS!

[OMGBergrush]

Serbians are such whiners....
Not to sound offensive, but you portray your nation as this "Goldlike" place, as this Peaceful wonderful place....
serbia is a 10x better place to live than europe at least for true serbs. there is no tolerance here for ***s and sects and we pretty much manage our own.

I will personally be very glad if you never have a chance of Joining EU, for simple reasons that it will benefit you too much, and will give you a voice in EU matters, which with all due respect no one wants, I mean who wants to hear a Radical Country go on, and on and on about their accomplishments and their purity, without naming their faults or any defeat in their history.
if they have nothing to gain from us then why do they keep sucking up to us and making such "offers"? serbia has a lot more to give to eu than eu can give to serbia and im one of those[majority here] who say eu dont make demans, we do...because we can!

Now, you say "Whats with Europe this, and Europe that", If you don't know nothing about EU thats one thing, but Criticizing EU and knowing nothing is just plain retardness.
we know a lot more about eu than you. we know its true face. its civilian killing, bridge destroying, refinery bombing, powerplant razing, uranium shelling face.

First of all, in this modern world of globally competitive market, Serbia will never, ever have a chance of competing with any state whatsoever. However, with the EU and you will have a much better chance against super powers such as China and USA.
we are not a big nation and as such we dont have a big market and as such we dont need to compete with usa or china. in fact russia alone can import all our stuff with ease. and on a side note our major export is grain fruit and meat something that is always in high demand

I cannot understand how you still can whine about Kosovo, I mean get over it, you simply lost it, no chance you will ever get it back, no chance, never ever, no way Hoze, uh-uh, never.
its not lost today and it wont be as long as we dont recognize it. and as soon as czar putin say "yes" we are going down there to remind you whos territory you are usurping. the plus is that after all the things you scum have done in the past few years we wont have to bother much with expelling you since most of you will flee before righteous retribution like the cowards you are.

Just move on develop rather then just stand there and whine about how things are done unfair towards your country.
that sentence pretty much describes the character of albanian scum like you. first it was the ottomans fault then yugoslavia then serbia because you live in such a ****ty development while the problem is you never advanced past the dark ages while serbia is a moder country by all means and i hope soon enough might be led by actual patriots.

I'll highlight this sentence again "Serbian are such Whiners."
the only thing you can highlight is what a scum you are

[rob]

omg...you remember my friend zmija?

[Slayzer]

European union has been made by Eu countries in order to protect them from America, Russia and China.

Whatever you say, people in Serbia have clearly said NO to radicalism and selfish politics and YES-to normal life with friends from EU! You will have to except that!!!

[OMGBergrush]

European union has been made by Eu countries in order to protect them from America, Russia and China.
yes i can clearly see their defiance towards usa and russia. what a pathetic bunch of spineless losers. they remind me most of merchant republics in the middle ages which used to "buy" their freedom. that method proved so effective that not a single one of those states remains to this day and the same goes for eu. it will disintegrate sooner or later so we are better off being allied with a homogeneous state which also happens to have the biggest territory practically unlimited resources not to mention the biggest nuclear aresnal than siding with a divided asslicking rag tag confederation of states which cant even adopt a common currency or a common constitution

Whatever you say, people in Serbia have clearly said NO to radicalism and selfish politics and YES-to normal life with friends from EU! You will have to except that!!!
oh really?
lets look at it through numbers and not through tadic`s political babling.
ds coalition got 38,5%
ldp got 5,2%
that means that nearly 44% of serbians voted europe 1st

while on the other hand
srs got 29,2%
dss got 11,4%
sps got 7,6%
and that means slightly over 48% serbians voted serbia 1st

i look forward to seeing your explanation how 44 is bigger than 48

[Slayzer]

We shall see how are things going to develop from now...
Just to remind u that Tadic won on the elections in January...

[OMGBergrush]

Just to remind u that Tadic won on the elections in January...

and i will remind you that he did so because kostunica didnt support nikolic back then and the eu didint steal kosovo [at least not formally]

[Francesko[JSO]]

We shall see how are things going to develop from now...
Just to remind u that Tadic won on the elections in January...

Just lol, he won him by how much? 60%? No he won tight, and won because all parties supporetd him - ***es and tranvestites from ldp, Cank who is a now Kvinsling who goes to conventions where is told that part of Serbia belongs to Croatia? Thief Dinkic, and other scum like them.

[fatman69]

Serbians are such whiners....
Not to sound offensive, but you portray your nation as this "Goldlike" place, as this Peaceful wonderful place....

I will personally be very glad if you never have a chance of Joining EU, for simple reasons that it will benefit you too much, and will give you a voice in EU matters, which with all due respect no one wants, I mean who wants to hear a Radical Country go on, and on and on about their accomplishments and their purity, without naming their faults or any defeat in their history.

Now, you say "Whats with Europe this, and Europe that", If you don't know nothing about EU thats one thing, but Criticizing EU and knowing nothing is just plain retardness.

First of all, in this modern world of globally competitive market, Serbia will never, ever have a chance of competing with any state whatsoever. However, with the EU and you will have a much better chance against super powers such as China and USA.

I cannot understand how you still can whine about Kosovo, I mean get over it, you simply lost it, no chance you will ever get it back, no chance, never ever, no way Hoze, uh-uh, never.

Just move on develop rather then just stand there and whine about how things are done unfair towards your country.

I'll highlight this sentence again "Serbian are such Whiners."

i guess this would be the first time that i actually read your post and i actually agreed...

but then again arguing with berg is like arguing with V.V.V. (aka NumbAndPointless), which really sets the course of this debate which is practically in the same place as it was 5 pages ago,

soon we'll know the answer, and time will tell what stream will bring more good. i changed my opinion during this debate, at first i thought it was nice that serbia is given a chance to enter EU, but now i realise it's full of ****headed radicals, it should, no wait, i truly hope it choses Russia, so it may rot even more in this ****land we call Balkan

i got only 1 more argument though, as i see it, the biggest migration waves didn't head to Russia or China, that is, i don't know many Americans, Canadians, and Brits that migrated to Russia in the 20th century, which couldn't be said vice versa...

[OMGBergrush]

i got only 1 more argument though, as i see it, the biggest migration waves didn't head to Russia or China, that is, i don't know many Americans, Canadians, and Brits that migrated to Russia in the 20th century, which couldn't be said vice versa...

i wont bother to answer the rest since it was discussed already but i will answer this.
did you ever consider why the biggest migration waves went to usa canada or biritain? maybe because biggest migrations occur during war and those countries were overseas? maybe its because russia and china werent colonial exploiters obliterating natives and stealing their land and now those impoverished people have to work abroad? regardless of the cause today i would never live in usa or britain but i sure would in russia maybe even china if i spoke chinese

[fatman69]

i wont bother to answer the rest since it was discussed already but i will answer this.
did you ever consider why the biggest migration waves went to usa canada or biritain? maybe because biggest migrations occur during war and those countries were overseas? maybe its because russia and china werent colonial exploiters obliterating natives and stealing their land and now those impoverished people have to work abroad? regardless of the cause today i would never live in usa or britain but i sure would in russia maybe even china if i spoke chinese

oh so i guess that had nothing to do with better quality of life (Canada/Australia in particular), or the better salaries, better jobs.. noooo, average migrant would look at the world map=> see Canada, USA, yeah i wanna live in colonial exploiter country, regardless of anything??
btw Britain isn't quite overseas (unless you count La Manche, which is like i dunno but myb 50 km wide), and it did suffer throughout war, still a great receptive country in immigration, so is Germany and their colonies were like what, 10 square meters? Switzerland? when was that country a colonial empire, still many ppl migrate there whenever they can, what about Canada, Sweden??

and pls quit bull****ing with your high morals, where was your moral 15 years ago? where was russia's pride and moral from 50's till 90's. you're right russia didn't exploit other poor people, they exploited their own people, they didn't need to go abroad. i'd like to see your wish come true, they need quite a lot of brain-washed monkeys in Russia

[-_-ForeveR-_-]

In definition what is Serbia ?
Its one peasant land on hilly Balkan
so dont get confused by anything in politisions

[SetoKaiba]

vidim da se ovde bar nista nije promenilo. samo da vas pozdravim sve , pa cu elaborilati na pomenutu temu kad se dogovore oko vlade
znaci za 3 do 6 meseci.

kiss

[VengefulSpammer]

russia didn't exploit other poor people, they exploited their own people, they didn't need to go abroad.
pwnt

[fatman69]

And winner of the 2008 Elections in Serbia is ............c'mon Berg, come and fill in the blanks. :D


not what i hoped for but i guess it will probably bring some peace to the region...

[-eXtasY-]

I know from the horses mouth that 99% SPS will form coalition with DS BOTH in town and republic level. And guess why? well because they've got very nice amount of money in change ;)
I hate coz i have to quote myself but i told you.... just watch and enjoy democracy in 21th century. Pity

[OMGBergrush]

And winner of the 2008 Elections in Serbia is ............c'mon Berg, come and fill in the blanks. :D
winner = dacic krkobabic palma bunch of tycoons and all other bribed scumbags
loser = serbia and serbs in general

not what i hoped for but i guess it will probably bring some peace to the region...

the first place that going to lose peace is serbia and its going to spread from there

[-eXtasY-]

its just pity. Democrats made a kind of revolution to take SPS off the government and sent SPS leader to hag tribunal where he died.
Now they are making coalition with them? Where the **** is this world going? This is such an irony that i cant believe in it.Are we retarded so we even vote on elections after we see that we can do whatever we want and they will rule again? What an aristocracy.. and they call themselves democrats? Whats century is this?

[sunnis]

Communism Ftw!

[OMGBergrush]

its just pity. Democrats made a kind of revolution to take SPS off the government and sent SPS leader to hag tribunal where he died.
Now they are making coalition with them? Where the