Good setup 5v5 normal mode

[Slayzer]

for scourge:
top lane: lion, which doctor
middle: lich
bottom: void,warlock

what do u think about this? any suggestions?

[Mamoru_]]

No tank in team - imba bad
Since lich is quite ok soloer, and void warlock combo is imba, u could try swapping 1 of these two intels for imba tank.
example, doctor OR lion with Centa is great lane control, + cent is imba tank , or sk (skele) with lion, or maybe swapped with Lina as very similar heroes, make cool lane control too ,with potentially big tanking abilities of Sk

[Slayzer]

;772722']No tank in team - imba bad
Since lich is quite ok soloer, and void warlock combo is imba, u could try swapping 1 of these two intels for imba tank.
example, doctor OR lion with Centa is great lane control, + cent is imba tank , or sk (skele) with lion, or maybe swapped with Lina as very similar heroes, make cool lane control too ,with potentially big tanking abilities of Sk

btw, I wrote normal mode...

[Slayzer]

Top lane is very strong, doctor cast second spell + lion's ulti=1 dead, + they both have stun...
And I think this combination doesn't need tank because when enemy is pushing void should rush on them and cast ultimate, after his ultimate warclock cast his, then doctor stuns and in the end lich cast his ultimate, lion is there if enemy has some hero like silencer/enigma/root hex+stun...

[Mamoru_]]

For normal mode , change lion or doctor into SK. You can`t make tactic without tank. Especially of you rely just on 1 ult spell which has 165 secs cooldown..

[Mr.7error]

Maybe change lion and doctor to sk leshrac and replace lich with qop, then bottom void with spectre.

[Hominghead]

Setup AoE Devastation(sentinel): imho best Setup in AP, but show me where is normal mode being played dude..

Enigma,Leshrac,Pit Lord, Magnus and Treant.

Top: Magnus&Treant
Mid: Leshrac
Down: Engima and Pitlord

For Scourge Vice-Versa.

gg

[Mr.7error]

Setup AoE Devastation(sentinel): imho best Setup in AP, but show me where is normal mode being played dude..

Enigma,Leshrac,Pit Lord, Magnus and Treant.

Top: Magnus&Treant
Mid: Leshrac
Down: Engima and Pitlord

For Scourge Vice-Versa.

gg

If you find a team at least equally skilled like you, they will rape you with good heroes so bad that you will forfait min 20.

Magnus & Treant sux, they cant kill at all before 6, even then they might stumble upon themselfs with their ultimates. They will be harassed badly by lets say a lina in scourge and even treant will be killed by a sk/lina or something lina. Leshrac mid will be outfarmed by silencer/nevermore/qop/razor/potm etc. Down enigma and pitlord, well that's a pretty good combo but they will be countered by let's say warlock/spectre, enigma+pitlord wont be able to kill till lvl 6, and spectre will outfarm them.

[ghij354]

The idea is very beautiful and reality, looks like archlord gold (https://www.thepowerlevel.com/Gold.php?N=Archlord).

[death_2_guta]

Mid: Solo lich/maiden(i prefer maiden, i 1v1'ed vs lich on mid once...was battle of the novas :D)
Up:Sven and Ezalor(ezalor pushes easy)
Down: Enigma and Bone/witch doctor

enigma ulti, sven ulti, maiden/lich ulti...and if you chose doctor...maledict...GG :|

[Elohim.]

Yee not bad, not need tank if they are good on the start, lion witch doctor good, lich must get fast lvl, void warlock I can't see good combo for them, try void with troll, I won't say warlock is bad for can't see them good combo together

btw if you want combo with void, try lich, SK, TB, troll but in lan games (games without delay)

[VamoS_GringO]

Void warlock I can't see good combo for them, try void with troll, I won't say warlock is bad for can't see them good combo together

LOL


btw if you want combo with void, try lich, SK, TB, troll but in lan games (games without delay)

There are hosting bots,LOL.

[LifeDrainer[RO]]

use 'edit' function next time @ elohim

also, if you don't have some decent knowledge, don't give advices to others since you will only confuse them, instead of teaching them something usefull

void with troll?-.-

[Elohim.]

void with troll, troll range with damn ulti
Why edit ? I got team we play at the tour before 3 years and Iam still skilled good in dota, every second night we play at the net dota, knoledge??? Naa man you don't know how was that feeling when you go in other town (capital) and get second place, and Iam sure you won't feel that, btw you know what is TB, SK ?
void>enigma with TP

[VamoS_GringO]

void with troll, troll range with damn ulti
Why edit ? I got team we play at the tour before 3 years and Iam still skilled good in dota, every second night we play at the net dota, knoledge??? Naa man you don't know how was that feeling when you go in other town (capital) and get second place, and Iam sure you won't feel that, btw you know what is TB, SK ?
void>enigma with TP

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/funny-pictures-kitten-tries-a-pick-up-line-on-you.jpg

[Elohim.]

oO I remember you, you play with smurf he was mirana, you was enchantress, I remember that game when you kick me, I was terrorblade, Iam sure you remember it, I say gg and you kick me hahah what a shame ...

Wanna dota lessons ?just /w or PM me xD

[VamoS_GringO]

oO I remember you, you play with smurf he was mirana, you was enchantress, I remember that game when you kick me, I was terrorblade, Iam sure you remember it, I say gg and you kick me hahah what a shame ...

Wanna dota lessons ?just /w or PM me xD

Ye post replay pro :)
It's kinda hard to play 1v5 (pub game) but i still managed till late game...and i kicked you (after the game was already over,4 raxes down) then later all my teammates cause they were totally useless,including smurf :).
I deleted w3 but i would probably pwn you like the last sh1t...so pls spare us dude :happy1:
edit]Yes i wanna dota lessons,pls teach me about your imba troll&void combo so i can post it on dota-allstars forum (don't worry you'll get all credits).Ye WL is useless with most carry heroes on lane...when i think about it he's one of the worst possible picks in a decent game,he needs some changes/buffs like a +100% as and dmg spell so you can own pubs against a feeding enemy team even more!! :)

[ProtosS]

Think about this combo:
1.Roof
2.Tide
3.Enigma
4.Crix
5.Naga

1.Roof ulties,they are stunned,then Enigma uses ulti and at the same time Crix uses too.Then if it needs,Tidehunter uses ulti,and if gank was failed,to run away,use Naga's ulti.GG no RE
Anti-item is Bkb,nothing else cant stop this combo

[VamoS_GringO]

Think about this combo:
1.Roof
2.Tide
3.Enigma
4.Crix
5.Naga

1.Roof ulties,they are stunned,then Enigma uses ulti and at the same time Crix uses too.Then if it needs,Tidehunter uses ulti,and if gank was failed,to run away,use Naga's ulti.GG no RE
Anti-item is Bkb,nothing else cant stop this combo

No...
It sounds easy...but believe me,any decent team gonna rape you like some 10 yr old girl in a wheelchair :thumbUP:

[ProtosS]

Look this.
Dark Seer uses second spell on Weaver's watcher = FTW

[KaworuNagisa]

Try -cm mode

[Elohim.]

Hey gringo still I don't get your pm for leesons, wanna cell phone number?
Dark Seer uses second spell on Weaver's watcher = FTW
You gonna get them too much hp, for sure :P
Try to use doom if some on got enigma, TP


ps.Gringlos? I see once in game (and please don't say that I was playing with some noobs, come on it be a men say it) (and tell me about it, with who I play, I don't want to make some suffers really, my brother want to play I was out that night, but when I see smurf swap me down, I really want to play) see your self btw xD

[VamoS_GringO]

Hey gringo still I don't get your pm for leesons, wanna cell phone number?
Dark Seer uses second spell on Weaver's watcher = FTW
You gonna get them too much hp, for sure :P
Try to use doom if some on got enigma, TP


ps.Gringlos? I see once in game (and please don't say that I was playing with some noobs, come on it be a men say it) (and tell me about it, with who I play, I don't want to make some suffers really, my brother want to play I was out that night, but when I see smurf swap me down, I really want to play) see your self btw xD

I am really sorry but i can't understand what you're trying to say...
I wont argue with you anymore,pointless,since i lost too much time on pubbers like you who are thinking that they're actually good or somethin.If you want to give me lessons,join SS channel and show that in front of every1.I'm sure you won't...so CyA.Yo,peace dAwG! ^^
P.S. If you didn't notice i am making fun of you by quoting your posts in my signature...believe me,a lot of ppl laughed :D

[noein]

best 5 team is tide+magnus both starting with rings and then making refreshers
the rest of team can be whatever :D
gg qq bb