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Nachi
23rd April 2008, 10:47 PM
Discuss here all you want about nuclear devices and thermo nuclear devices.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=YNlOtLhnsEE

and check this ;) it's cool ;) in a way but frightening in others ...

LoGiStiK
24th April 2008, 10:57 AM
Nothing much to say. But honestly they are the most horrible things on earth.But a definition would be..:
Unstoppable weapons of mass destructions wich also deal colateral damage used in the most extreme cases.

MeEatYou
24th April 2008, 01:33 PM
We really need weapons of mass destruction because there are many outsider-threats like comet problems . And we really need the IMPULSE which they carry in the explosion to move their paths just enough to change their route away from earth ... So you don't need them here but you need them in space . :tiphat:

obey.my.dreamz
24th April 2008, 01:38 PM
We really need weapons of mass destruction because there are many outsider-threats like comet problems . And we really need the IMPULSE which they carry in the explosion to move their paths just enough to change their route away from earth ... So you don't need them here but you need them in space . :tiphat:

heh u watched Armageddon.

btw cold fusion would be pretty nice as energy source,. therefore air wouldn't be infected.

OMGBergrush
24th April 2008, 03:02 PM
Nothing much to say. But honestly they are the most horrible things on earth
you realize the 'horrible' things prevented ww3

-eXtasY-
24th April 2008, 03:19 PM
Hmmm very interesting , i never thought about it. There is really truth there , nuclear weapons somehow prevent big wars because they are making great warning what could happen if ww starts. America did use two a-bombs in ww2 but then , there wasn't anyone to retort it. Now , one bomb would lead to 2000 more and i doubt someone would dare to start such a hell.

LyCaN.WarLorD
24th April 2008, 08:27 PM
Yes and now Iran is developing nuclear weapons...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfoQsZa8F1c Tsar bomb 50 megatons :)

MeEatYou
24th April 2008, 08:29 PM
heh u watched Armageddon.


Nop i'm just really interested in Physics and Astronomy .

OMGBergrush
24th April 2008, 08:54 PM
Yes and now Iran is developing nuclear weapons...

yeah so?
i dont see why people make such a big deal about north korea or iran making nukes when they can have an arsenal of a few bombs while russia and usa have them in the thousands and china england france...have them in the hundreds

KarlHeinzBreuer
24th April 2008, 09:36 PM
Nuclear bombs are cool but they're not in my possesion so I'd have no use of them, just damage.

So since they're not mine, I'm against nuclear weapons and think they should be banned.

I'd ban tanks, rockets, aircrafts, zookas, bombs, guns and riffles, I'd like battles in 300 style, modern warfare sucks, swords and spears own, plus no civilian casualties.

Bonzy
24th April 2008, 10:43 PM
yeah so?
i dont see why people make such a big deal about north korea or iran making nukes when they can have an arsenal of a few bombs while russia and usa have them in the thousands and china england france...have them in the hundreds

so they will fire it with ease because they are not stable country...

OMGBergrush
25th April 2008, 03:16 AM
so they will fire it with ease because they are not stable country...

thats absurd
I'd ban tanks, rockets, aircrafts, zookas, bombs, guns and riffles, I'd like battles in 300 style, modern warfare sucks, swords and spears own, plus no civilian casualties.

you forgot gas

[RO]Claudiu
25th April 2008, 04:13 AM
well there is not much to say about nuclear devices .

nuclear powerplants : great source of energy but if not disposed properly of the radioactive residue they are also a great source for polution . i would not aprove of it because the residue is hard to recycle or maybe unrecyclable ( i dont know for sure)

nuclear weapons : great source of mass destruction . who needs mass destruction ? ( criminals )

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swords and spears own

dont you mean sticks and stones? :noob: i agree . modern warfare sux .. its the price we must pay for the technology we built : it makes our lifes easyer from that of our ancestors but also it makes our life hard . there is always a balance .

[GOD]Marko
25th April 2008, 12:39 PM
Nuclear bombs are cool but they're not in my possesion so I'd have no use of them, just damage.

So since they're not mine, I'm against nuclear weapons and think they should be banned.

I'd ban tanks, rockets, aircrafts, zookas, bombs, guns and riffles, I'd like battles in 300 style, modern warfare sucks, swords and spears own, plus no civilian casualties.

yep and no gas and hydrogen type weapons

we can chose between good and evil, cause we have free will

V.V.V
26th April 2008, 10:44 PM
Every country needs its own protection.
To be sincere, you cannot trust no one at these times, every country works towards their goals.

In the end, these nuclear bombs have advantages and disadvantages, more or less USA and Russia are the Checks and Balances of our Planet Earth, then come other European Countries and China, who check and balance other little countries.

I guess thats how it goes, The Stronger exploits the Weaker. The stronger survives and the weaker becomes extinct.

CaRaMBa
27th April 2008, 02:01 AM
CLAUDIU;764638']nuclear powerplants : great source of energy but if not disposed properly of the radioactive residue they are also a great source for polution . i would not aprove of it because the residue is hard to recycle or maybe unrecyclable ( i dont know for sure)

They are burried under the surfice (more than 100m deep). As far as i know the radioactive materials are held in more, different places before reaching their final place.
They are quite safe, no need to worry about it.



. And we really need the IMPULSE which they carry in the explosion to move their paths just enough to change their route away from earth ...
Nop i'm just really interested in Physics and Astronomy .
Then you should learn some...You need the ENERGY not the IMPULSE. If your rocket would have 0 impulse but it detonates at a correct place (~near centre) then it might break into 2 parts and the route is changed (sum of impulses remains the same but the pieces gain the ENERGY from the bomb)

Bonzy
27th April 2008, 02:10 AM
thats absurd


not at all

OMGBergrush
27th April 2008, 02:12 AM
not at all

elaborate then

Bonzy
27th April 2008, 04:24 AM
No big philosophy. Many Muslims hate USA , they are bunch of terrorists(no offense) and part of those are Iranians in fair number , who are making nuclear weapons. Tho Iranian leader(can't remember the name) is kind of not aggressive , the situation there can change easily because Iran is not stable country in leadership meaning and terrorists can become leaders there and then send one nuke on USA (New Your , Washington , Los Angeles , whatever) with no fear , again why , because they are freaking terrorists who want to have a revenge by any cost and consequences. Then , USA would probably strike back and like that there would be a big mess and probably ww3.

Basically , Iran with nuclear weapons are like a crazy man with a gun. That's why there are so many warnings from UN to Iran not to make nuclear weapons.

OMGBergrush
27th April 2008, 04:40 PM
Basically , Iran with nuclear weapons are like a crazy man with a gun. That's why there are so many warnings from UN to Iran not to make nuclear weapons.

actually the warnings from the un [read: usa] are because if iran has nuclear weapons they cant do whatever they want to them

KarlHeinzBreuer
28th April 2008, 01:17 AM
Let there be war!

Bonzy
28th April 2008, 02:43 AM
actually the warnings from the un [read: usa] are because if iran has nuclear weapons they cant do whatever they want to them

i think we both know , as well as everybody else (if you think just a little better), that american invasion on iran similar to irak invasion would be too much with or without iran making nuclear weapons , and that it will never happen because world would not tolerate it anymore. so the only reason why is UN warning iran not to make nuclear weapons in my opinion is that they see very possible threat in those weapons.

fatman69
28th April 2008, 03:38 AM
No big philosophy. Many Muslims hate USA , they are bunch of terrorists(no offense) and part of those are Iranians in fair number , who are making nuclear weapons. Tho Iranian leader(can't remember the name) is kind of not aggressive , the situation there can change easily because Iran is not stable country in leadership meaning and terrorists can become leaders there and then send one nuke on USA (New Your , Washington , Los Angeles , whatever) with no fear , again why , because they are freaking terrorists who want to have a revenge by any cost and consequences. Then , USA would probably strike back and like that there would be a big mess and probably ww3.

Basically , Iran with nuclear weapons are like a crazy man with a gun. That's why there are so many warnings from UN to Iran not to make nuclear weapons.

first of all muslims arent terrorists, second Iranian leader is not agressive?? r u kidding me? man's a bloody lunatic. although his motives are good as he strives for economic succes of his country he is also a loose cannon and if usa try to invade there might be some serious sh.it. it would not be the scenario with iraq- easy invasion and all, people didn't actually adore saddam regardless of how they hated americans as well. but iranian president has support of his people and that is the reason why they he should not tempered with. a crazy man followed by his people armed with nuclear weaponry doesnt quite spell world peace...

KeweLi
28th April 2008, 06:03 AM
People say the US have more nuclear missiles than any other other country. True, but all countries who possess nuclear missiles are capable of wiping the entire planet out. It is freaky to know that countries such as Syria and N.Korea possess them even though the whole world tells them not to. >.< And the thing is that "telling them not to" is basically all they can actually do.

IceBird
28th April 2008, 06:30 AM
agree but u forgot pakistan. everything we hear about nuclear proliferation in third world countries is just frightening... atleast we keep our missiles under secure guard. ye telling them not to only makes them more stubborn

but lets not forget noone in his/her sane mind would think of nuclear warfare given the current potential of such weapons.. so it kinda keeps us in a uneasy peace .

fatman69
28th April 2008, 12:14 PM
atleast we keep our missiles under secure guard.


secure guard my as.s, how can you call it secure when that cowboy of a president can fire whenever he pleases. don't fool yourself, i think the reason most of the countries are acquiring nuclear armament is because the so called "west" has such an advantage in those matters. you think those countries don't feel threatened? i'm not saying it should be allowed for a maniac like Kim Yong Il (N.Korea leader) to own a nuclear bomb but that's a democracy. and as i understand, IceBird, you country is based on democracy (total BS if u ask me)...

i think only thing Iran, Siria, Pakistan or some other country wants is economical prosperity, they have been dependent of west for too long and they just want their independence so to speak. so don't blame them for wanting to be equals to USA or any similar country. btw i think USA presents a bigger threat to world peace then Iran

IceBird
28th April 2008, 12:36 PM
secure guard my as.s, how can you call it secure when that cowboy of a president can fire whenever he pleases. don't fool yourself, i think the reason most of the countries are acquiring nuclear armament is because the so called "west" has such an advantage in those matters. you think those countries don't feel threatened? i'm not saying it should be allowed for a maniac like Kim Yong Il (N.Korea leader) to own a nuclear bomb but that's a democracy. and as i understand, IceBird, you country is based on democracy (total BS if u ask me)...

i think only thing Iran, Siria, Pakistan or some other country wants is economical prosperity, they have been dependent of west for too long and they just want their independence so to speak. so don't blame them for wanting to be equals to USA or any similar country. btw i think USA presents a bigger threat to world peace then Iran

for the first part ofcourse its a democracy why do u think its BS? whats wrong in being a liberal capitalist country? and although i harbor no compassion to bush he isnt mad enough to fire Nukes off now is he? no i dont think so. our presidents are elected by us ( we arent so dumb as everybody think we are ) and ofc we do have our own choices and good ones at it.

for the second part how does having nukes translate into economic prosperity ? it rather leads to an arms race where money is wasted on upgrading nukes instead of using for economy, and why compete to be at par with us in WEAPONS when u can compete instead to be at par with us in ECONOMY!!
oh and we are the guardians of the world so plx dont say we pose a threat > iran to world peace. do u have any idea about the nuclear proliferation in third world countries? imagine what would happen if a nuke got into the hands of a terrorist organisation? gg
atleast we dont go around distributing our nukes on amazon and ebay for a billion $ or so

fatman69
28th April 2008, 09:12 PM
man your post brought me so much joy that u can't even understand. i'm overwhelmed... as you said in your post you (americans) aren't as dumb everybody thinks...no, judging by this you're even dumber...

for the first part ofcourse its a democracy why do u think its BS? whats wrong in being a liberal capitalist country?

your kind of "democracy" is BS, don't gimme any cra.p... my father goes to USA almost every 6 months, mostly texas, so i get the picture of your democracy. where did opression of blacks start? one century after it was eradicated in europe it was still at large in most of US countries. it still is present in some southern states although propaganda tries to hide it..., but this is not a thread about democracy so...


and although i harbor no compassion to bush he isnt mad enough to fire Nukes off now is he? no i dont think so. our presidents are elected by us ( we arent so dumb as everybody think we are ) and ofc we do have our own choices and good ones at it.

well bravo for you having a brain and not liking bush...no he's not dumb atm to do that but do you not see that in 8 years he sent your army on 2 suicide missions, and neither one of them is over...that's what a great choice he was :clap::clap::clap: for your freedom of choice and democracy that allows the inbreds to run for president...


for the second part how does having nukes translate into economic prosperity ? it rather leads to an arms race where money is wasted on upgrading nukes instead of using for economy, and why compete to be at par with us in WEAPONS when u can compete instead to be at par with us in ECONOMY!!

i meant nuclear power as a source of energy. iran is trying to exploit it in that fashion but i guess "king of all countries" (USA) doesnt like some1 to be given an equal chance, just for the fear of nuclear war. please, if your country's expanding and imperialistic politics hadn't taken so much oil from people of middle east do you think it would come to terrorism? would it come to all the attacks? no it wouldn't, had you just given some cash to the ppl. you think that oil that american companies mined out in Middle East, in Venezuela, Nigeria, you think no1 knows that it's practically stolen, bought for a trinket. you can't exploit some countries land and give nothing to them. that's why you got your butts kicked out of Venezuela, that's why you're getting you're getting your butts kicked in Middle East. you're too greedy and now it's taking its toll.


oh and we are the guardians of the world so plx dont say we pose a threat > iran to world peace. do u have any idea about the nuclear proliferation in third world countries? imagine what would happen if a nuke got into the hands of a terrorist organisation? gg
atleast we dont go around distributing our nukes on amazon and ebay for a billion $ or so

so, in light of my above stated thoughts, i truly can consider you a threat to world peace. how come the muslims in UAE don't protest, don't fire missiles and aren't involved in terrorism?? give the man smth to eat give him some cash and he'll stfu and won't make a big deal. as i understand you don't think you're a threat but when you look at it, who started last 2 military conflicts in Asia in past 10 years? USA... and terrorism was active there mostly cuz you couldnt get your greedy little fat fingers out of their land. since i'm getting off-topic i'll just ask my final 2 questions, and don't try to give me that "i don't know" and "it's not proven" cra.p:
1. Who trained the infamous Osama Bin Laden and his associates for that matter to help them in fighting USSR?
2. Who put S. Hussein on top of Iraq to replace Homeini?

pls answer whenever you feel like it...

Bonzy
28th April 2008, 11:14 PM
first of all muslims arent terrorists
90% of terrorists on the world are Muslim terrorists led by Islamic religion against "western nations" , and I didn't say "all muslims are terrorists" , try understanding the proper meaning of my words.

second Iranian leader is not agressive?? r u kidding me? man's a bloody lunatic. although his motives are good as he strives for economic succes of his country he is also a loose cannon and if usa try to invade there might be some serious sh.it. it would not be the scenario with iraq- easy invasion and all, people didn't actually adore saddam regardless of how they hated americans as well. but iranian president has support of his people and that is the reason why they he should not tempered with. a crazy man followed by his people armed with nuclear weaponry doesnt quite spell world peace...

Yes I said that he is not aggressive comparing with other possible leaders and he didn't have aggressive moves and deeds and as always I judge men by his deeds. He is thinking rational enough to know what will happen if he fires one nuke , so he won't do it. And AS I SAID , USA will NOT invade Iran in sooner time(like 10-20 y) because it will be like a "the drop that overfilled the glass" in every meaning , tho they can do it with ease until Iran makes nuke which requires time. USA is trying to stop Iran from making nuclear weapons because they will never able to exploit their land in even far future , and it is what they counted on before getting information that Iran will make nuclear weapons.


And about your current discussion , fatman , I think you are making Bush worse than he really is , tho he is quite bad... he would not dare to fire a nuke either , and the only way I see the possible beggining of someone shooting away a nuke is some 3rd world country leader making a rushy move because of something.

V.V.V
29th April 2008, 01:12 AM
your kind of "democracy" is BS, don't gimme any cra.p... my father goes to USA almost every 6 months, mostly texas, so i get the picture of your democracy. where did opression of blacks start? one century after it was eradicated in europe it was still at large in most of US countries. it still is present in some southern states although propaganda tries to hide it..., but this is not a thread about democracy so...

Actually, USA Democracy is quite fascinating. Check the elections proceeding at the moment, that is Democracy at its Prime.

What you mean "I get your picture of democracy" elaborate please.

By Black Suppression you mean slavery? If yes, slavery began about 1800 BC. so no, it didn't start in the United States.
About in some Southern States, the Constitution of the United States protects every citizen of it, so no they cannot be suppressed because the police is obliged to intervene in these cases. Stop making wild assumptions.

i meant nuclear power as a source of energy. iran is trying to exploit it in that fashion but i guess "king of all countries" (USA) doesnt like some1 to be given an equal chance, just for the fear of nuclear war.

Be Realistic, The Stronger survive, the weaker go extinct.

so, in light of my above stated thoughts, i truly can consider you a threat to world peace.

It goes both ways, Protector and Destroyer i would say, depends how you portray the facts i guess.

1. Who trained the infamous Osama Bin Laden and his associates for that matter to help them in fighting USSR?
2. Who put S. Hussein on top of Iraq to replace Homeini?

I would love, and i mean LOVE to answer your question, but my knowledge of conspiracy theories is very vague, so I'll pass.

90% of terrorists on the world are Muslim terrorists led by Islamic religion against "western nations" , and I didn't say "all muslims are terrorists" , try understanding the proper meaning of my words.

Not really, 90% is to much. You gotta consider Columbian Terrorists group, Brazilian ones etc. It all depends how you define the term "terrorists"

fatman69
29th April 2008, 04:08 AM
V.V.V. i'm not arguing with you since i know what a nit-pick you are. i ll just make a simple replay in hope you won't start to get all homer-the-mighty-philosopher on me...

my vision of democracy is simple. equal opportunities for every man and woman. there are places in southern states where bouncer prevent negros from coming in cuz it's a white bar. you also got negro bars, beener bars and so on..that doesn't actually look like democracy in my opinion. not to mention all those hillbillies with their thoughts of other races...

and in light of what i said, equal opportunities for everyone, why shouldn't Iran be allowed to control nuclae power, or even nuclear armament for that matter?USA has it, so does GB, France, Russia...why shouldn't they have an equal shot? if every other country can have it so can they as well. so is the your country based on democracy or Darwin's theory?

1st of all no1 asked US to be either one of those things. their meddling into foreign affairs started as a way to protect their interests outside the borders. and ironically the more they tried to protect their interests the more shi.t they caused. IMO US got the best deal in Venezuela, a kick in the butt and off you go ladies, drill da **** somewhere else. now all the turbulences in Nigeria and M. East are causing the prices of oil to rise. hopefully, US need for protection will stop soon cuz if the invasion of Iran, or god forbid, N.Korea should occur who knows what might happen.

and as far as my questions go, they are not a part of conspiracy theories, they are simple question with a simple answer (one word for each question). just because people don't talk about those things don't think no1 knows how it really happened...

V.V.V
29th April 2008, 04:26 AM
V.V.V. i'm not arguing with you since i know what a nit-pick you are. i ll just make a simple replay in hope you won't start to get all homer-the-mighty-philosopher on me...

I rather see it as a debate not "arguing"

my vision of democracy is simple. equal opportunities for every man and woman. there are places in southern states where bouncer prevent negros from coming in cuz it's a white bar. you also got negro bars, beener bars and so on..that doesn't actually look like democracy in my opinion. not to mention all those hillbillies with their thoughts of other races...

That is impossible, its against every law on Human Rights and Discrimination acts, if that would be true, there would be a lot of people protesting against these Bar's.

and in light of what i said, equal opportunities for everyone, why shouldn't Iran be allowed to control nuclae power, or even nuclear armament for that matter?USA has it, so does GB, France, Russia...why shouldn't they have an equal shot? if every other country can have it so can they as well. so is the your country based on democracy or Darwin's theory?

Simple explanation, Its about Interest. I am no denying the fact that the world is not cruel. I'm just pointing out that, Why would the Strongest state in the World allow another state to be a risk for them? Its against my Logic, its always been that the Strongest sets the rules which are followed by weaker party's

1st of all no1 asked US to be either one of those things.

Of course they did, it was expected from the US to intervene in such matters, it is expected from them because they are the Strongest Nation. Its simply and downright expected from them, no one needs to ask.

heir meddling into foreign affairs started as a way to protect their interests outside the borders. and ironically the more they tried to protect their interests the more shi.t they caused. IMO US got the best deal in Venezuela, a kick in the butt and off you go ladies, drill da **** somewhere else. now all the turbulences in Nigeria and M. East are causing the prices of oil to rise. hopefully, US need for protection will stop soon cuz if the invasion of Iran, or god forbid, N.Korea should occur who knows what might happen.

I have not enough knowledge in these matters, so i wont comment.

and as far as my questions go, they are not a part of conspiracy theories, they are simple question with a simple answer (one word for each question). just because people don't talk about those things don't think no1 knows how it really happened...

Oh well, i read Bin Ladens whole history, however the funny thing is, there is nothing about some kind of training...

fatman69
29th April 2008, 02:54 PM
and where did you read his history? i suppose they should write it in every article in US papers that he was their domestic product. truth sometimes goes beyond our understanding and news aren't always correct or as Oasis said "Don't Believe The Truth". where do you thing allegations that the attack on Pentagon didnt actually occur came from? why weren't there any pictures showing parts of airplane around pentagon shown in 1st few days after the attack while there were numerous videos showing the fall of Twin Towers? why did US Defense secretary (i can't remember his correct title) resign only few weeks after the attack claiming that the attack was planned? it may all seem far-fetched but truth isn't always simple and these are all serios accuastions not some folk gossip about mass conspiracy.

as far as nuclear power go i repeat myself if once country can have it so should others regardless of their position. why does Iran pose a threat to world peace? cuz they don't kiss USA bottocks? and you didnt quite answer my question what is USA base on... if it's equal chances for every1 then let them all have nuclear power, otherwise it's plain hypocrisy to follow democratic ideals and to call upon those values when it fits you but when it doesn't just to ignore it.

and no1 asked US army to intervene, but they still do to protect their interests, if USA is so for world peace, why don't they solve the Darfur Crisis or any other conflict in Africa? why don't they help out in countries where their companies don't drill oil? or simply put if you're world guard why don't you defend some1 you don't benefit too much from? that's not a guard that's a bleeding mercenary, a mercenary whose empire will soon come crashing down...

V.V.V
29th April 2008, 07:37 PM
and where did you read his history? i suppose they should write it in every article in US papers that he was their domestic product.

Actually, i read biographies and historical evidence. Please, seriously i beg you to provide me with proof that Bin Laden was their domestic product.

truth sometimes goes beyond our understanding and news aren't always correct or as Oasis said "Don't Believe The Truth".

Some news aren't, but if 122 News channels provide me with the same facts, then yes, they are telling the truth.

where do you thing allegations that the attack on Pentagon didnt actually occur came from? why weren't there any pictures showing parts of airplane around pentagon shown in 1st few days after the attack while there were numerous videos showing the fall of Twin Towers? why did US Defense secretary (i can't remember his correct title) resign only few weeks after the attack claiming that the attack was planned? it may all seem far-fetched but truth isn't always simple and these are all serios accuastions not some folk gossip about mass conspiracy.

You've been reading to much from that 9/11 conspiracy website, or you even watched ZeitGeist. If those were true, then by now half of the world would be reporting and would be spreading the so called "truth". Don't you think there are reporters that would kill for such a story? Be realistic please.

as far as nuclear power go i repeat myself if once country can have it so should others regardless of their position.

How can you regard its position? Do you think the world is fair or something? With countries you have to take into consideration everything. Its simple, the stronger your country is the easier for that country it is to set rules for the weaker countries, thats how it goes.

why does Iran pose a threat to world peace?

Because its a Radical State? And even ignoring the fact that it oppresses females blatantly, they are very old fashioned. Furthermore, as i said USA sets the rules, and Iran either follows it or gets exploited and destroyed.

if it's equal chances for every1 then let them all have nuclear power

Thats not how Equal Chance works, you got to have a certain economical stabilization and social stabilization in your country to even be able to have nuclear bombs, you'll need to provide the efficient security etc. Equal Chance isn't, Oh USA has the biggest military budget in the World, why don't other countries have the same budget as well, thats not EQUAL! Thats just plain stupidity.

And one more thing, Every State is equal in legal matters, however the world is not Equal, how can you even think it is?

otherwise it's plain hypocrisy to follow democratic ideals and to call upon those values when it fits you but when it doesn't just to ignore it.

What the hell do you expect? You wanna develop your country, so if another country tries to hold you back, why would you comply with that? When you see a chance of improvement, why not take it? I don't understand, do you think the world is full of flowers and everyone loves everyone? Come back to reality, If a King of an Empire is asked to devolve some powers to one of the constituencies, the King would do it only if it serves his interest.

and no1 asked US army to intervene

Well, yes they did, an example: Kosova.

but they still do to protect their interests, if USA is so for world peace, why don't they solve the Darfur Crisis or any other conflict in Africa?

You still don't understand. If it doesn't serve their interest, why would they do it? Why would they risk being vulnerable? Be Realistic.

why don't they help out in countries where their companies don't drill oil? or simply put if you're world guard why don't you defend some1 you don't benefit too much from? that's not a guard that's a bleeding mercenary, a mercenary whose empire will soon come crashing down...

Again, why would the strongest country help without any interest.

Soon come crashing down? R o f l m a o. May i ask how?

fatman69
29th April 2008, 09:35 PM
Ehm if you're fighting for your own interests then stop posing yourself as the preservator of world peace. if you're saying you push your rules to other weak countries than don't pose yourself as a democratic country. if you don't have actual proof that any country is radical( define what would make iran a radical country) then don't attack it. that's all i'm saying;don't be a bloody hypocrite.

and please the oppression of women? who gives a cra.p about women's right in terms of world peace, wtf are they gonnda do cause a frickin riot with their brooms and mops?

i didn't watch Zeitgeist, nor have i read any theories, i asked few simple questions which you again refuse to answer. there weren't any parts of the plane, and the guy did resign at that time, but i guess you didn't watch the news.

and for all that Bin-Laden things, i don't know who wrote that biograbhy or where u found it but since it's so easily accessible it's no wonder it doesn't mention his training. i know that is a proven fact and the source is pretty trustworthy so i'm not discussing it anymore.

now stop your philosphy and answer some goddam.n questions, e.g., the question #2 about Hussein still remains without an answer....

OMGBergrush
30th April 2008, 01:00 AM
dont bother arguing with jody. he/she/it/w/e is a lying scum and i forum troll with nothing better to do but to disrupt topics and i have no idea why it isnt banned yet

IceBird
30th April 2008, 08:32 PM
i agree with jody
do u have a better example of democracy then? black oppression u say do u have any idea about the civil liberties and acts enacted in favor of blacks? no
and oh btw just because ur dad sees a few isolated incidents of racism doesnt mean its ALL OVER STATES. ISOLATED ONLY
in my 16yrs of US life ive never seen a single incident of racism either by my friends or relatives or in school.
its the ultimate democracy possible and we are thankful for it . thats all
yeah do u know why we replaced homenie by saddam> because that guy was a bigger loose canon than saddam and nobody wanted to interfere in iraq affairs. atleast our president did something @ the time WHICH WAS GOOD @ THAT TIME.

OMGBergrush
30th April 2008, 09:46 PM
i agree with jody

when you realize what jody is this sentence will come back to haunt you
p.s. i will make damn sure you never forget that you wrote this

[LOA]Kyree
24th July 2008, 06:51 PM
Not nuclear weapons are the main problem,the fact that will lead to our extinction.
The problem is that we (humanity) are draining out our natural resources (oil,wood/forest,etc) and that we are destroying ourself with polution.U.S. is the country that pollute the most(35% of earth pollution comes from U.S),and they dont to nothing.They only debate,make conferences( G8 :ohmy: ),etc...but they dont act nothing to prevent harm to our earth,nature,natural reservation,seas,oceans,animals,humans,etc.
Who cares if N.Koreea,Pakistan,Iran,others extremist countries,etc have nuclear weapons and nuclear tehnology?Do you think one of them will dare to start a nuclear war?They are aware that starting a nuclear war will end with theyr extionction.
Indeed as someone told above,nukes are good vs meteorites,comets,etc...to save humanity,and beside that nuclear tehnology is also good for energy/power.

phaNtom.
24th July 2008, 07:04 PM
Make love, not war, and everyone will live happy :tiphat:
Dont understand what is wront today with ppl :(

[LOA]Kyree
26th July 2008, 08:25 PM
PhantoM;812358']Make love, not war, and everyone will live happy :tiphat:
Dont understand what is wront today with ppl :(


Love hurts ^^

phaNtom.
26th July 2008, 08:50 PM
Not more that our alternative in this case, right?:tiphat: