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LifeDrainer[RO]
17th April 2008, 11:37 PM
A GUIDE TO KING LEORIC, SKELETON KING

This is an old hero that has been around for a very long time. I have yet to see a premium guide on him, so I'll give it a shot.

HERO STATS

Strength - 22 + 2.9
Agility - 18 + 1.7
Intelligence - 13 + 1.6
Movespeed - 300
Attack Range - 128 (melee)


HERO ANALYSIS
Pros
Ability to tank twice
High DPS potential
Disabler

Cons
Big target
Slow attack speed
Very vulnerable to mana attacks

WHEN TO USE SKELETON KING AND WHEN NOT TO USE SKELETON KING

I realise that skeleton king has fallen out of favour ever since his ultimate was changed to require mana. In spite of this glaring weakness, I still think he's a powerful tank or DPS machine. The sight of a skeleton king on the opposing team is quite daunting; you know you're going to have to kill him twice, and in the meantime he's going to hammer and chop one of you to bits. It can still be used against mana burners, but this is very subjective. Having your mana destroyed is not such a big deal if you have enough hp to tank and/or are dealing enough damage and lifesteal to compensate. Ironically, skeleton king's small mana pool is both its strength and weakness. Smaller pool, lesser mana to burn, less hp to lose. The important thing is to overpower your opponents with high hp, damage and lifesteal, so don't fret too much about losing the ability to reincarnate.

However if the opposing team is made up mostly of heroes that destroy mana or uses mana burning items, frankly you'd be better off choosing another hero instead of skeleton king. The reason is because at least with other heroes with more than one active spell, they can take the initiative and cast something first. All you have is one miserable hammer to contribute. I understand there have been suggestions to boost skeleton king's mana pool with mana items in order to cover up this flaw. However, in my opinion that is the worst thing to do. If you're facing mana destroyers, the last thing you want is to have a whole lot of mana on you when you only have one spell to use. You'll probably be wishing you had full health and zero mana instead!


HOW SHOULD I PLAY THE SKELETON KING?

The skeleton king is all about sarcrifice. Not suicidial sarcrifice, but smart sarcrifice. Your role is to disable someone, take all the hits you can take, make the enemy team pay dearly, resurrect and make them pay again. You will die sometimes, you will resurrect and die again for nothing sometimes. However, as long as your team pulls through in the end, the sarcrifices are well worth it.


WHAT KIND OF HERO IS THE SKELETON KING?

I find that the nature of the Skeleton King depends very much on its team, the enemy team and how the game goes. I've decided to put two builds, because realistically it is either a TANK or a DPS MACHINE. If you can become a DPS TANK, honestly go and find better opponents. Very rarely will you ever get the chance to build Skeleton King up to a DPS TANK.

THE BUILDS

TANK BUILD


Level 1 - Storm Bolt
Level 2 - Stats
Level 3 - Storm Bolt
Level 4 - Stats
Level 5 - Storm Bolt
Level 6 - Reincarnation
Level 7 - Storm Bolt
Level 8-10 - Stats
Level 11 - Reincarnation
Level 12-15 - Critical Strike
Level 16 - Reincarnation
Level 17-20 - Vampiric Aura
Level 21-25 - Stats

Use this build when your team needs a TANK, or if the game is going really ****ty. Life steal and critical strike mean absolutely nothing when you can't even get close enough to get in a few good licks of your own. Remember, your job here is to tank. Besides having a bunch of hp, you will also have enough mp to throw a few hammers as well.



DPS BUILD


Level 1 - Storm Bolt
Level 2 - Critical Strike
Level 3 - Storm Bolt
Level 4 - Critical Strike
Level 5 - Storm Bolt
Level 6 - Reincarnation
Level 7 - Storm Bolt
Level 8-9 - Critical Strike
Level 10 - Vampiric Aura
Level 11 - Reincarnation
Level 12-15 - Vampiric Aura
Level 16 - Reincarnation
Level 17-25 - Stats

Use this build when your team needs a DPS machine, or if the game is going really well. However, remember that skeleton king is a big target, so try not to attack someone in crowded places or if they're a lot of creeps around. Get critical strike early so that you can deal major damage mid-game when you've gotten your Armlet of Mordiggian, and then lifesteal to complement it.

CORE ITEMS FOR ALL BUILDS

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OTHER ITEMS

From here you have some options.

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If you are the TANK, get a Heart.
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If you need more hp to deal the damage, get a Satanic.
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TANK STRATEGY

Level 1 - 11

Last hit and deny if you can. If you can't, hang back and leech experience. Do not die. Bolt only if there is an opportunity for your opponent to sustain significant damage, i.e. about half his life chopped off. Your mana pool is miserable, 140 for a bolt is very expensive. When ganking, bolt if you are the only disabler. If not, get someone else to disable or slow, run right up and then bolt. You can get in a few more licks that way, and it matters. Whenever possible ambush around corners, the closer the better. One whack, run alongside, one hammer, one whack, run alongside. That way you won't lose sight of your prey. Just remember to try and bolt at point blank range whenever safely possible. When in team battles, charge right in and bolt someone, not necessarily the most dangerous guy but someone everyone can whack immediately. At this point you don't have the luxury of choosing, you may die before even loosing a hammer. If things go well, using reincarnate is fine. If things go bad, bolt if you really have to before retreating. Running with 1hp and 0 mana is still much better off than resurrecting with five heroes hanging around your corpse. You should have made enough money to obtain two bracers, boots and a helm of iron will.


Level 12 - 16

Now you have critical strike. Not only are you a tank, you can dish out a lot of pain every now and then as well. You can resurrect every three minutes forty seconds. Time to push and destroy a lane. Do the same thing you always do for ganks and team battles. This time you're hitting faster, so after a hammer give at least two whacks before running alongside. You should have made enough money to complete Armlet of Mordiggian and on your way to completing power threads as well. Make sure you fully use Armlet of Mordiggian's "super healing" potential. For a detailed explanation, please visit Patccmoi's Mini--Guide on Armlet of Mordiggian.


Level 16 - 25

You now hit fast and hard enough to warrant the use of lifesteal. You can resurrect every two minutes and twenty seconds. Time to crash the base. When attacking a base tower, be very careful. If your team can't blink in or get in easily, don't attempt to charge into the base. You will die fast, your pals can't squeeze in to fight in time, creeps may appear to jam you when you've resurrected, and you will die again for nothing. Try and draw them out. Better still, gank them when they're not anywhere near the base. With longer respawning times, you have all the time in the world to sarcrifice yourself for a base push.

DPS STRATEGY


Level 1 - 11

Last hit and deny. Go right up and whack your opponents if they're weaklings. Preferably have a teammate to lane with you. Your attack speed is miserable, but a critical strike at that stage is really quite damaging. Bolt when there's an opportunity to inflict heavy damage. When ganking, bolt if you are the only disabler. If not, get someone else to disable or slow, run right up and then bolt. You can get in a few more licks that way, and it matters. Whenever possible ambush around corners, the closer the better. One whack, run alongside. One whack, run alongside. That way you won't lose sight of your prey. Just remember to try and bolt at point blank range whenever safely possible. When in team battles, charge right in and bolt someone, not necessarily the most dangerous guy but someone everyone can whack immediately. At this point you don't have the luxury of choosing, you may die before even loosing a hammer. If things go well, using reincarnate is fine. If things go bad, bolt if you really have to before retreating. Running with 1hp and 0 mana is still much better off than resurrecting with five heroes hanging around your corpse.You should have made enough money to obtain at least two bracers, boots, helm of iron will, and possibly gloves, claws or both. If you have no lane problems, get the helm from the corner shops first before the boots and bracers.


Level 12 - 16

You have full critical strike. You have some life leech. You can resurrect every three minutes and forty seconds. Time to make life miserable for your opponents. Complete Armlet of Mordiggian and you are set to deal A LOT of damage. Gank whenever possible. You ought to be hitting faster now, so after a hammer give two whacks or three before running alongside. Activate Unholy Strength the moment you enter battle, the extra hp will help you tank considerably. Don't deactivate it until after ten seconds. For a detailed explanation on how to use Armlet of Mordiggian, please visit Patccmoi's Mini--Guide on Armlet of Mordiggian. Complete power treads and then buy whatever you feel is necessary.


Level 16 - 25

You can resurrect every two minutes twenty seconds. Your opponents cower in fear at you. They want to take you out, but you simply resurrect, rendering their efforts futile. You hammer and strike with impuny. You're a strength DPS machine with lifesteal, critical strike and reincarnation. Time to end the game. Be the pointman and charge right in. Take and dish out as much pain as possible. Sacrifice yourself if necessary. Chop down the tree, or melt the throne.



MISCELLANEOUS INFORMATION


GOOD ALLIES

Whether as a TANK or DPS, anyone with a stun, disable or slow is your ally. There are really too many to list. Other buffs like repel, aphotic shield, ion shell, empower, frost shield, bloodlust, static charge, etc, whatever makes you more of a pain, they're all good. Skeleton king works well with pretty much anyone. Just remember you're big, so be smart and manoeuvre accordingly when chasing, it's pretty stupid to be bumbling with other biggies trying to chase a small target and it gets away before you can throw another hammer.

BAD ENEMYES

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http://www.dota-allstars.com/images/lists/BTNSpellBreaker.gif

As mentioned before, skeleton king is extremely vulnerable to mana attacks. Without mana you can't hammer people. Worst of all, without mana you can't reincarnate. Skeleton king needs to be able to reincarnate early and mid-game since it's not yet strong enough to overpower opponents.

Early game mana burn and curse of the silent by nerubian assassin and silencer will leave you crying. Mid-game mana leak by keeper of the light will render you almost useless after just one hammer. Hopefully you can tough it out and simply overpower them later on. Anti-mage is someone you really don't want to face throughout the game. If he can't kill you, he'll burn all your mana before blinking away, it's just not worth it. And mana void destroys too much hp at one shot for you to compensate. Make sure you and your team shut him down.

Diffusal and manta are really painful due to feedback. Overpowering heroes who use these items may be close to impossible because they are often very powerful DPS late-gamers like naga siren and spectre.

Necronomicon is equally deadly. Mana break and mana burn, fantastic. What about two necros? Three?


ROSHAN

You don't really need the aegis, but you may wish to get it if you're going for the DPS build. It's very disheartening to have to face someone like skeleton king twice in one battle without being able to kill it. If you're having a lousy game or going for the TANK build, give it to someone else instead. There's no point for you to die twice and waste the aegis.


RUNES

Runes are a great way to boost your combat potential for free, but honestly, skeleton king does not need them. If you happen to chance upon any, great, but I wouldn't recommend seeking them out on purpose.


FAQ


Why do you not get vampiric aura early?
Some think vampiric aura is good for early laning. Let me tell you something. If you can't lane without getting harassed, you don't need lifesteal. With such miserable damage and attack speed, you're going to have to find opportunities to chop a creep at least five times to get back the hp you lost if a hero hits you just one time. Why not just hang back and pump stats? And if you can lane without getting harassed, you don't need lifesteal. If you're having such a great time, why not pump critical strike so that you can really lay it on when you've gotten your Armlet?

Some think vampiric aura is good for jungling. First, skeleton king isn't old naix. It has 20% lifesteal, not 40%. Don't think you can keep jungling all the time. Second, skeleton king is a lousy jungler. It has no farming skills whatsoever. Third, do you really need that much gold? My core build is only 5720 gold. Leave the jungling to those who need the gold, you're not that kind of hero.


Why do you get critical strike so early when it's useless?
For the DPS build, critical strike is pumped early so that when mid-game arrives you can put it to use immediately instead of having to level it first. Since you want to deal damage, why not deal as much as possible for the same 15% chance? Besides, early game is the best time to pump because there's not much ganking and not so much experience is required to level up. And when you're ganking, is it more important to steal life or deal damage?


Why do you not rush radiance as a first item?
Some think radiance should be rushed in order to farm lots of gold. The idea of farming a 5325 gold item in order to farm more gold is simply ludicrous. Being the lousy farmer that skeleton king is, by the time you've farmed that amount, the enemy team would be knocking at your door step, and you have no hp or attack speed to be of any use. Pathetic. Why do you think my core item build is only 5720? In spite of being a lousy farmer, skeleton king is not particularly item depedant, it just needs a few items to maximise its potential. By all means get radiance after the core build, but to rush it as a first item is a very bad idea.


Why do you not get any mana items?
Some think skeleton king needs mana items in order to fire more hammers and still reincarnate. I think it's a waste of gold. You can only fire off one hammer every 8 seconds. Other heroes can fire off two, three or even four spells consecutively. Those are the heroes who will benefit the most from mana items, not you. Furthermore, what if you're facing mana burners/destroyers? More mana for them to destroy you with?



CONCLUSION


As long as mana destroyers are not used or kept underlevelled and underfunded, skeleton king is an excellant tank or DPS hero to wreck havoc with. Hopefully there will be some new item in the future that prevents mana attacks for a brief period so that skeleton king can once again be the king of higher level play.

Credits to Veteran from dota-allstars.com

LifeDrainer[RO]
18th April 2008, 09:47 AM
I have to agree with both at this one.Imo it was my mistake...i remembered that i read some guide for average players,which was decent enough...and i decided to bring it here and when i saw this and i thought it is that guide.So i didnt read it again,untill now and yep...its very poor.That is why i deleted that and wrote first guide which i read.Its not premium,its for average players,as bnet has the most and i think it suits most players...a decent quide who can teach most important aspects.Thx for notifications
berg/exy :)

edit:first 2 posts were deleted cuz they can create missunderstandings...berg/extasy were talking about initial guide(quite bad one),this is completely new one!

Xenocide.
18th April 2008, 11:30 AM
if you are on a solo lane

you take

bolt + vamp aura.

OMGBergrush
18th April 2008, 03:13 PM
if you are on a solo lane

you take

bolt + vamp aura.

you NEVER take vamp aura because it stimulates autoattacking which sux and makes you a noob

Mr.7error
18th April 2008, 03:25 PM
You almost always take stun+3levels of stats, then maxout the crit. You buy some bracers(2-3). I dont rly agree with heart first item, only if ur single melee in team or smth. Then, another item good for him can be desolator, works like a charm with vamp aura and some attackspeed enhancer. You will be able to do SERIOUS dps and scare 2-3 enemy heroes by urself.

klemen
18th May 2008, 06:34 PM
I think vladi is very good item for leoric. It adds you extra lifesteal, mana reg and life reg. What do you want more?

about vamp aura: better then getting a storm bolt, which uses all of you mana at level 1. So aura will help you much more then storm bolt on level 1 hero.

Mr.7error
18th May 2008, 07:12 PM
Sure, very smart adding to some lifesteal with no attack damage and thus useless. Lifesteal isnt ment to be maxxed, it is ment to take advantage of your imba damage. Aura will help you more than stormbolt ? How ? by regenerating 10 hp and loosing 100 at the same time ? Really smart, instead of having a stun that can help you much anytime.

IceBird
19th May 2008, 05:49 AM
a slight modification to this would be more appropriate
getting a bot + mkb(cases where items neednt be rushed in 20mins or so) would most certainly outweigh advantages of wasting gold on power treads .
PT would certainly be a good early combo only with an early under 30min radiance

@klemen lifesteal is a subsidiary skill not the primary one. vladi is just a waste of a slot .

also no point since if ur not autoattacking and u take lifesteal ur creeps push a lot more due to vamp aura. it defeats the whole purpose of last hit/deny and yes to quote berg it makes u a noob.

Mr.7error
19th May 2008, 02:31 PM
PT would certainly be a good early combo only with an early under 30min radiance


Not only with that.

klemen
19th May 2008, 03:43 PM
You really need something to regenerate mana, so getting damage is not good at all.

When you throw storm bolt on the beginning, it drains you almost all mana and you have to wait for few minutes to regenerate. Now to mention that you need another 100 mana at level 6 if you want to use ulti. So basicaly you can use only 1 storm bolt on level 6, because using 2, drains mana below 100. So you need some mana reg. Good item here is bfury or vladi, which gives you the same thing as bfury without damage. So...getting more damage with vamp aura or getting more lifesteal with original attack is almost the same and I won't calculate it.

For example: Try calculating +60 damage with vamp aura or original attack with vladi (maybe I will do it myself if I get time).

-eXtasY-
19th May 2008, 03:48 PM
Go for bolt+stats and buy bottle. Trust me you will have stun anytime you need it ;)

Mr.7error
19th May 2008, 05:54 PM
Ok, I see you don't know or haven't seen any Leoric pro games.

Leoric lvl 10: 80-82 base damage + 60 = 140-142. Life leech from lvl 4 vampiric aura would be 28,2 (20%*141)
Leoric lvl 10: 80-82 base damage + 15%*81 (12,15) = 93,15. Life leech from lvl 4 vampiric aura would be (20% + 16%)*93,15 = 33,5. Nice, so you get this stupid amount of life leech while your attack speed and damage sucks, so you will be just a sitting duck that sometimes leeches some hp from time to time.

Heroes that have lifesteal aura such as leoric or naix arent ment to make MORE lifesteal so they can lifeleech what, 5 more hp? Nice thankyou. If you are pro you wont take vampiric aura like a noob and take 3 level of stats, make a bracer or two and you will easily have mana for 3-4 stuns or 3 stuns and ulti. Then, yes waste another of the heroes skill, the critical. With your imba lifesteal you will critical 100 dmg. NICE. Dont you see, you are wasting all its potential with the stupid lifesteal bulking up. Let's take naix, put him in team with leoric and let him make vladmir and satanic. Thats a nice lifesteal, but USELESS. You will not inspire any fear. Any good player would know to make some damage item for leoric, call me on xpam and I'll try to show you on some short 1v1 maybe or something -du what is the difference.

klemen
19th May 2008, 07:55 PM
Just one thing is bothering me in the tutorial.

You should get armlet around level 12 - 16, but tank build doesn't include any vampire aura to recover hp loss.

So hp loss doesn't matter really?

Thanks for the answers.

OMGBergrush
19th May 2008, 09:09 PM
but tank build doesn't include any vampire aura to recover hp loss.
im too lazy to explain now but if you rely on aura to recover hp then you are doing something very wrong

klemen
19th May 2008, 10:02 PM
im too lazy to explain now but if you rely on aura to recover hp then you are doing something very wrong

This was ment in the connection with armlet not the tank build. When I got armlet ingame, the hp still isn't boosted enough (only 2x bracer), so I think at least 1 lv of aura instead of critical at level 12-15. 30 hp/sec is not so little.

OMGBergrush
19th May 2008, 11:52 PM
just take a piece of paper and a pencil and calculate for yourself how much lifesteal means when you are low level/low damage

klemen
20th May 2008, 04:20 PM
just take a piece of paper and a pencil and calculate for yourself how much lifesteal means when you are low level/low damage

Armlet adds you around 75 damage+you already have some damage from bracers and stats --->becomes more then +100.

Is that's small damage for you?

So with level 1 aura you get +9 hp/attack +3 hp/sec from armlet.
With level 2 aura you get +18 hp/attack +3 hp/sec. So with level 2 aura and armlet you lose only 10 damage/sec. The only thing here is that you have to attack, but you open armlet when ganking, so that's not a problem.

I think even level 1 is enough, because it recovers almost half damage from armlet. Better then getting 3xcritical which has only 15% chance.

The_Bogeyman
20th May 2008, 08:00 PM
I can assure u that not even with lvl 4 aura and +100 dmg u cant recover fast enough that 30hp loss/s if u consider that in the meantime u'll also be taking dmg from the opponent. Not to mention if u get stunned or some other disable u cant turn off armlet and yr just wasting precious life. I would always take hyper over armlet.

Anderkent
25th May 2008, 05:40 AM
The thing is, armlet adds about 450 temporary hp. So for 10 seconds you actually have more hp then you would have without armlet. Most of fights end by that time, and even if you die, you still ult (armlet will never kill you btw, it'll leave u with 1 hp, thats why its also usefull, if you escape with 100 hp and they have zeus, deactivate it, activate again fast and u have 451 hp - enough to survive ult. WIN!).When the fight ends you deactivate and heal up on creeps...

And its 35hp/s now ;p

FTWDeadMan
3rd June 2008, 02:58 AM
stun + stats is always the best early game build for leoric.
thx to this guide ive finally loved leoric lol xD
abt the arguement of whether going vamp aura/stats and vldai and dmg items..
i'd much rather go dmg items instead.. when u have higher dmg items u alr automatically suck back higher lifepoints.. whats with wasting 2k gold on alil more lifesteal.. i'd much rather saving that for radi or satanic which is good

KING_LEVORIC97
3rd June 2008, 08:42 AM
there a new tatik by me; king levorics

u is take lifesteel to go to lumbers farmfarmfarm

then u go a sange it gg for a enemi :ohmy:

klemen
3rd June 2008, 04:45 PM
there a new tatik by me; king levorics

u is take lifesteel to go to lumbers farmfarmfarm

then u go a sange it gg for a enemi :ohmy:

It doesn't work noob. There is no way to creephunt with leoric (as tutorial says) even with lifesteal, which sucks hard especialy on the beginning.


s&j? Useless item for leoric...

Bonzy
3rd June 2008, 05:00 PM
sny is not useless on leoric , it's just that there are 4-5 items for leoric better than it. but if you need to be a tank and your farm is not good , power threads with strenght(tho bot>threads on leo) , few bracers , and sny will fit in. you will get a bit of killer character with it also

Herr
3rd June 2008, 09:04 PM
On Leoric I usually go:

Early build: Boots of speed, 2 Talisman, Ring of Basilius

Mid game: Hyperstone, SY

Late game: I dout there is lait game pro levoric powns noob before tat gg four all enemi :beer: Anyway, depending on game: go Travel, sometimes finish Cuirass, Monkey King Bar, Vladimirs, Crystalis (I don't like Buriza :)).

LifeDrainer[RO]
3rd June 2008, 09:05 PM
Spam deleted, further spam posts will be infractioned

FLaMeSeeKeR
3rd June 2008, 11:26 PM
Power treads, 2 bracers, hyperstone, helm of dominator (items depends of enemy heroes) = PWNAGE LEO IMMORTAL :S
I know does from my own nubish experience :p

TBK.Goldy
4th June 2008, 08:06 AM
ok, its mostly pubs i play, but with vladimirs + full lifesteal skill, when i open mordiggian i'm not losing hp when i att someone, so always mordiggian for SK in my case.

WhiteAngel10
24th August 2008, 12:31 AM
Well , I think the BEST build for leoric (only items) are Vladimir , MoM , Buriza , Heart , PT(STR) , And the last slot is of your choice (I preffer Assault Currias),or...LOTHAR xD lol. These items are perfect coz they stack with the skills , calculate leoric's maxed life steal with vladi and MoM ... and buriza for more criticals.

Tkc]Fear
24th August 2008, 12:35 AM
Very smart build.

Especially " buriza for more criticals " and Lothar.

Your " maxed / stacked lifesteal " maybe works in your " Godlike -apem " servers but guess what? : ) Nowhere else.

EDIT:

Lothar --> escape mechanism

Levorics --> makes people use escape mechanisms

Understand?

WhiteAngel10
24th August 2008, 12:50 AM
Fear;831821']Very smart build.

Especially " buriza for more criticals " and Lothar.

Your " maxed / stacked lifesteal " maybe works in your " Godlike -apem " servers but guess what? : ) Nowhere else.

EDIT:

Lothar --> escape mechanism

Levorics --> makes people use escape mechanisms

Understand?
yet another FLAME and FLAME :) you won't ever understand that you "sufferings" don't affect me by Flamming me...do you want Proof? well , look in my all posts :) did I EVER flame your posts? or after you flame me? :) nope , I just try to make you understand that this "suffering of yours" won't afftect me at all...first : I didn't say lothar is JUST for escaping , it is for boosting dmg and a little attack speed + armor , and then you can use MoM + Lothar so you can chase after someone with GREAT ms....or , you can simply "escape mechanism" as you say :happy1:

LifeDrainer[RO]
24th August 2008, 12:53 AM
first of all he didnt flame, nor suffers

2nd, i have something for you

=> http://www.eurobattle.net/showthread.php?t=68817

go read this guide, and you will realise how 'smart' is buriza on Levoric

Tkc]Fear
24th August 2008, 01:01 AM
Flame/suffer? : )

You got serious problems if you see flame/suffering in my posts. Psycho teraphy might help.

Anyway do you understand that Levoric does not need escape mechanism?

Levoric comes - kills 1-2 of them - they kill him - he revives - rest of enemy runs

So we come to conclusion -> enemy needs lothar : )

If you don't understand that....ah well..

WhiteAngel10
24th August 2008, 11:07 AM
Fear;831843']Flame/suffer? : )

You got serious problems if you see flame/suffering in my posts. Psycho teraphy might help.

Anyway do you understand that Levoric does not need escape mechanism?

Levoric comes - kills 1-2 of them - they kill him - he revives - rest of enemy runs

So we come to conclusion -> enemy needs lothar : )

If you don't understand that....ah well..
Oh I see you're getting smarter when your "hero" LifeDrainer[RO] defends you....and I understand you LifeDrainer[RO].....he is your friend , and you HAVE to defend him even you know that he is wrong or not....but why people can't be honest? maybe they're afraid coz they will lose they're friends if they say the true? so we all now live in lies over lies? anyway I'm not saying about ONLY this flamming......look at all my posts , every post I posted he HAD to flame about it....why? proof of suffering....now I realized...if he REALLY thinks his self ( THE UBER-GODLIKE ON DOTA ) he won't have to SPAM/OFFTOPIC/FLAME me coz he thinks I'm noob......well , if I'm noob , why are you so interested to search everyday and night for my posts so you will have a BIG chance to flame it :laugh: anyway LifeDrainer[RO] i don't think that your buriza and crit heroes do-not-stack-100% thing is true...I didn't say that hero has 20% chance critical and buriza 20% so it will be 40% chance...it will still be 20% and 20%...and for ( THE UBER-GODLIKE ON DOTA ) player...(tkc fear)..the reincarnation thing is only good at 1v1 not at a gang of 5v1...coz they just kill you , they come around you , after you revive they will kill you AGAIN....and your teamates won't have time to come to help you.....and anyway....I didn't say LOTHAR ON LEORIC , I sayed : last item is of your choice....and it could be lothar.

anyway let me tell you 2 things that are the TRUE , you don't want to understand/believe it's not my problem :

1 :You think yourself a "very good dota player" but you aren't better than me, and I don't need to prove it to you...it's just the true.

2 : Always remember , ANYTIME and ANYWHERE how good are you at DotA , there will be ALWAYS people better than you .


So quit this "suffering" thing and leave me alone.Thanks , now , I'm waiting to see your replay even I know that won't be a very interesting one...as always:)

LifeDrainer[RO]
24th August 2008, 11:16 AM
I sugest you cut the offtopic, and btw angel, if you would not bes suffering, why you try to explain, your 1v1 game so ppl think you are better, and why you wrote all this post, and a lot of stuff...if you would not be suffering, you would simply ignore (what if some guys from forum got it wrong?let it pass)...but see...you cant

and btw, that thing true, about buriza

also, i am not friend with Tkc]Fear

ps: next offtopic posts will be infractioned and then deleted

Tkc]Fear
24th August 2008, 01:34 PM
Your post is full of sweet imagination ( and suffering ) . : )

Fact = I raped you in 4th min of game -> mh!!! -> WhiteAngel10 has left the game.

Whatever you say it wont change and accept that fact : )

Also your conclusions are quite funny...

And once again , you do not need lothar on Levoric . Clear?

Anyway as Drainer said cut off topic..I really can't be bothered to answer to your cries all the time : )