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[YB-Nam]

hi all

im new ss players came here after long break from dota.lately i was playing at ggc.but on ggc i was playing mostly pubs since i do not know anyone there so i came back here to have some fun.i play dota for pleasure only i do not care at all if im pro if others tell me im pro or maybe if im noob.i play it for relax to have some fun after tiring day at work or after some problems in real life just not to think about anything.in my humble opinion im not so bad player maybe not some owner or something but i know basics and i think im team player.as i say i might not be some uber pro but i think im good enough to play here.why im writing this all u probably ask ? well i just played game vs player with nick chainsaw[uuu] or something like that and i got shocked with his manners.or better to say lack of it.Honestly i probably wont play any ss game in near future or maybe this was my last at all.sorry but im also human behind the screen i have my feelings and i wont let some streesed totally unmannered 14 years old kid to tramble my dignity just cause...cause what ? cause he is better than me in some stupid internet game ? cause he probabaly doesnt have anything to do in his life except playing this game and it's his whole life ? cause he had good score in one game ? cause this time i didnt play so well, cause maybe i had worse playing conditions and couldnt do much ? and that gives him right to be so arrogant and treat me like a **** ? i can understand that sometimes you may call someone idiot or noob when he screws somthing up.we're humans afterall we get angry sometimes.but...this ? getting excited and insult others just cause you own in some game ? all i can say for such idiot is : TURN OFF THE PC LIFE IS WAITING OUT THERE SOMEWHERE.



i think its well known that being so called pro is matter of playing a lot, practising just playing as much as you can.and i think there are much better players than him here for whom he can be counted as noob, so i completely cant understand why he was so ****ing arrogant and why he was showwing off so much with his 'skill'.i believe if i was playing a lot for months i wouldnt be worse than him.point is i just dont have time for it and simply dont want.you can give me -reps for feeding or smth i dont rly care since i wonrt probably play here for a while.but u should also punish him.and pay a lot of attention at players manners.manners should be most important at EVERY community and punishment for lack of it should be very high.as someone wise said : manners are the last thing you've go, when you forgot everything else.

these are my 3 cents rest is up to you.situation im talking about happened in the end.started after me and sven didnt succeed to gang that kid.

[rza]

Imo, u should both get -rep, but since chain[uuu]saw is banned, host takes all responsibility for his acts.
In this game i saw u as very nervous guy, who doesnt play to "relax" :F
and yea..
he didnt said anything more then N00B, and calling ppls noob is not "bannable" or -rep


cheers:thumbUP:

[Chain[uuu]saw]

started after me and sven didnt succeed to gang that kid.

I think there was razor and shadow priest also :))...4 vs 1 ...one down,and u didnt kill me ...n/c.

And i dont have 14 years...i have 12 !

In scourge team was 3/5 players players that they are in my fl ....and i flame them on our launguage...(that was joke)...

U didnt get heart attack? :pet::pet::pet:

[Ludwiczek]

i think he is so unmannerd cose he take to many steroids an suples which destroys his brain :)

when we play he always blame me cose he want be so pro as i am.... ;)

but i like him cose he is kid like me ;D and we shoud both grow up kid!

[YB-Nam]

rza i would like to ask you not to say anything about things you do not know anything about and do not tell me what do i do or not do or how do i feel ( yes im playing only for fun and nothing else is improtant for me ).im usually calm even when i writewith caps lock its mostly to underline most important words since i noticed its common for people not to listen to anyone.but ofc i get nervous sometimes as everyone and its mostly when someone play very selfish and cares for frags or his ****ing score only.

i wont say anything about anyone's skill in this game same as im not going to argue about mine.i think i didnt do bad, did everything i could for my team, including items and casting all def spells i had (mostly on sven) + heal as often as i could.in 95% i play support heros so obviously i do not get many frags, still i think i do my role kinda good (maybe not perfect) and i dont think im feeder or noob or something.Still this guy attitude was under any comments.notice i didnt do common things in such situation, when someobody escapes with 50 hp from gang ('' u damn noob lucker") didnt insult or provoke him at that point nor at any other.if nothing will be done here i will gladly say 'ty' for this channel community players and mods.

[rza]

i think u should rly say that "ty".

we dont need no 1-month-players
chainsaw is getting again approved in couple of days, and i think we all agree thats hes a good player, which plays very often


and as i said, calling some1 nub wont give u ban

[Uberpr0]

i think u should rly say that "ty".

we dont need no 1-month-players
chainsaw is getting again approved in couple of days, and i think we all agree thats hes a good player, which plays very often


and as i said, calling some1 nub wont give u ban

stfu nub

[Sagacity]

stfu nub

very mature and well explained point of view. uberpro ot your spam count today? :ohmy:

[BetomenG]

Manners is on the first place, and respect , but kids dont have that, because they are kids , i was in the same situation, today,

ok, pro player is only one who playing games for money and, on SS i think everybody play for fun, No Money at all, i think,
Stop thinking that you are pro pls :D
haha

If you are pro , go in Korea , and take first price LOL
4000$

i dont watch replay , just repect for good post

think about it :)

p.s. when you play the game, you always give the best you can,

[Nocawy]

Here you have the chat from that game:
http://dotastats.sycotic.net/example.php?id=lack_of_manners

[[Keka]]

i think u should rly say that "ty".

we dont need no 1-month-players
chainsaw is getting again approved in couple of days, and i think we all agree thats hes a good player, which plays very often


and as i said, calling some1 nub wont give u ban

Hey mem sry for getting in but i need just to say something , dont get me wrong but ,
This game which we are playing was made to make some friends wrold wide and to have some fun right? Noone war3 server for flamers and unmannered players ...He can have some fun , as said starter of this thread and i agree with him he shouldnt call every signle player noob , is that all he knows ? Does he know to say anything else like "np" , "next time more luck" or something like it ? to give him some advices myb ? No he only flames nothing more . This was just my opinion no hard feelings Mem if he is ur friend.

[2fuckingbitch]

Manners is on the first place, and respect , but kids dont have that, because they are kids , i was in the same situation, today,

ok, pro player is only one who playing games for money and, on SS i think everybody play for fun, No Money at all, i think,
Stop thinking that you are pro pls :D
haha

If you are pro , go in Korea , and take first price LOL
4000$

i dont watch replay , just repect for good post

think about it :)

p.s. when you play the game, you always give the best you can,

Lol how old are u ?
Second u cant say that for all kids!
3rd.. what u mean with that ,,kids,, under 16 ? under17?under 18..
Man some ppl +20 have worst manners then some ppl with 12-16 years..

[BetomenG]

i just give my apinion for text,
i play that game,
and i was in forest
and i didnt noticed ,
that someone was arogant or has bad manners, just say that some people or kids have bad manners that is all
pedro

[sublime_]

"turn off u pc and get a life" u have a serous problem with that for sure
and don't tell that to another person when u are more addiced then others ....

[EscapeTheFate]

Too bad some of you dont see the truth of Nam's words

[EscapeTheFate]

Too bad some of you dont see the truth of Nam's words

[hahahehe]

Too bad some of you dont see the truth of Nam's words

yes i'm agree with you man.

[sublime_]

i agree too with he`s words but did u know him in rl and did u know something about hes rl ? u cant judge and say him get a life if u dont know him personality rly
i work in net cafe 12 h per day i`m at work 2 days and i have 1 free day. What i should do then ? ofc i will find random internet staff making fun and w8 for finish my work time.

[rza]

first of all, i hope that guys who r replaying now here watched replay

second thing is that chainsaw told me that he played with friends in that game, i mean there was alot of his friends (BALCAN friends that is)
he was just fooling around
and if that guy is feeling sad now, or he got hurt in any kind of way, then that first post of his was just a LIE

as i said couple of times now--> ----> CALLING NOOB SOMEONE DOESNT GIVE U BAN <----

[sublime_]

Nam: i dont ****ing understhand where da **** u were all
Nam: shield me ?
Nam: CLAP THEM ?
Nam: no cooperation ?
Nam: FINE
Nam: will remember that
rueha: CD
Nam: we were 4, they were 3, and u qall run like pussies
Michael_Myers: panda is slow
Michael_Myers: has
Nam: leaving fme for sure death
Nam: OKAY
Nam: understood
Nam: dont be suprised if i 'forget' to heal u on time
Nam: ~~
what behavior is that then Nam ?

[Chain[uuu]saw]

LOL Nam ....u told me that i'am kid ? o.O look ur allies chat...

dont be suprised if i 'forget' to heal u on time <<<< Ok mega pro teamplayer...


U can post -rep for me when i'am in ss...for now u cant do noting...dont worry about my social life...



***BetomenG ur post is LOL....


Keka go and get more denyes from ss kk ? :pet::pet::pet:

[BetomenG]

chain i know that my post is lol

i post because of LOL

Enjoy and have fun :)

p.s. you play realy good that game :)

[EscapeTheFate]

saw;741512']LOL Nam ....u told me that i'am kid ? o.O look ur allies chat...

dont be suprised if i 'forget' to heal u on time <<<< Ok mega pro teamplayer...


U can post -rep for me when i'am in ss...for now u cant do noting...dont worry about my social life...



***BetomenG ur post is LOL....


Keka go and get more denyes from ss kk ? :pet::pet::pet:

Maybe read 2-3 lines above that and ull understand why he wrote it - mega BLIND pro player

[IceBird]

ah come on people cant we all just get along
please everyone need to mannered here dont flame anyone no matter what
its manners >> dota remember that
and if ur flamed there is no need to flame them back just ignore them it will do u loads of good
please think about what ive said
gl hf have a nice day

[BlackLagoon]

ah come on people cant we all just get along
please everyone need to mannered here dont flame anyone no matter what
its manners >> dota remember that
and if ur flamed there is no need to flame them back just ignore them it will do u loads of good
please think about what ive said
gl hf have a nice day
that would be very nice but i think its impossible..like some ppl flame me and after that they call me flamer...etc ppl here are fighting too much over a bull****s rly..like i told saga that there was obvious gang and he started flaming me lol...there is 10000 examples i think we need some bob marly here..

[YB-Nam]

sublime tell me where did i insult someone in my small argues with teammates ? did i call someone noob or idiot or retard ? did i say something offensive ? did i show arrogant attitude ? frankly i said the truth we were 4 vs 3 enemies and we went back instead of taking mid tower what would be very easy to do.and my death wasnt even the point.the point was noone even tried to do anything .they were all near me could come back clap or give me shield.but noone did a thing.it pissed me off for a moment cause when i joined here i expected to see some teamwork.i thought i can rely on my teammates same as i think they could rely on me.i dont say im perfect team player but i did what i was supposed to do - heal all the time cast def skill on main tank sven and give ulti to the one who will prolly die the most.and noone had to ask me for it.i could use my ult to save my ass but i didnt cause i know it will be better for my team to give it to someone else.i could go stygian but decided mekasm + hex cause im always trying to play for my team.

anyway thats not th point i wont argue who played how.this topic is about manners.and i do not care if chainsaw had some friends in t2.he was writing to whole team 2 so among others to me and i wasnt surely his friend.and yes i think i can say get a life to someone who is getting excited with net game.someone who is acting like he was better man just because he played better than someone.someone who is arrogant and insult others.and as i noticed i wasnt the only one who didnt like his attitude.i didnt come here to get insulted by stressed and unammered guy.i do not play dota to see after i didnt succeed to make a gang word like 'noobs u were 4 and cant gang me 4 to kill me u all noobs feeders u suck so much why do u play dota'.i mean WTF ? and u are trying to tell me that this attitude wasnt insultive ? then all i can say is go to some respected dota communities like dota league and see what does manners term mean.there u can be warned or even banned by simple word noob since its insultive itself especially when its said in such context.and here someone may be unmannered, insultive, vulgar someone may treat me like a piece of **** ( u suck why do u play dota u noob u feeeder ) and others will defend him.well...all i can say is just good luck to such 'community' where the most important thing is to be so called 'pro'.it reminds me pubbies where people measure your value by your score.i thought that here it will be diffrent.i was wrong i guess.ss is farm far far away from community.its just closed channel for pub owners.that's all.outrageus is also lack of objectivity here.go defned your friend chainsaw.afterall he is better then me so he deserves to be here much more than i do.

[Sagacity]

that would be very nice but i think its impossible..like some ppl flame me and after that they call me flamer...etc ppl here are fighting too much over a bull****s rly..like i told saga that there was obvious gang and he started flaming me lol...there is 10000 examples i think we need some bob marly here..


Actually i was telling you that your answer LOL is the answer of retards.

SO GO LOL more when someone ask you something.

P.S. if that was soooo obvious why you didn,t prevent with something? Warn?

ohh i got it, you aree the imba pro mega player who say after see that the rain started :
it was obvious to take an umbrella, but didn,t say before, if you understand the analogy.

:ass:

[[Keka]]

saw;741512']LOL Nam ....u told me that i'am kid ? o.O look ur allies chat...

dont be suprised if i 'forget' to heal u on time <<<< Ok mega pro teamplayer...


U can post -rep for me when i'am in ss...for now u cant do noting...dont worry about my social life...



***BetomenG ur post is LOL....


Keka go and get more denyes from ss kk ? :pet::pet::pet:



Just to add something :

Better to be noob like me then a lamer like you.
Nothing more to add u are just a unmannered kid nothing more.

[BlackLagoon]

;741599']Just to add something :

Better to be noob like me then a lamer like you.
Nothing more to add u are just a unmannered kid nothimg more.
mb ure rit mb ure not...but still chain is better than u 4 example(imo).
and saga...spare me pls k??

[[Keka]]

Hey we aint speaking here about playing , who's better , who's wrost, we are speaking about some players who got lack of manners .I havent said i am better then him , but i am glad i got my manners. As i said in my prev post :"Better to be noob like me , then a lamer like him."

[2fuckingbitch]

Ok...
On ss there is a lot of flamers...
And ppl who dont know to act like normal persons...
Maybe I sometimes act like reto kid..but everyone have sometimes that problem!
But I dunno why u chain[uuu]saw write here... because i played with u 10 games and every game u start flame and saying other players that they are noobs , idiots,retards...
Btw u got also -rep points for that.
But nvm it... maybe Nam some1 flame u or act like idiot but that is not reason to open at same moment thread with bad manners...
Because maybe at that day that man was angry or something..
In other case u are right ...Because there is ppl in SS who constantly flame ..
Some ppl take this dota like their all life... and they cant live w/o it..
But u must have also patience for that ppl .

[Artanthos]

1. Chain[uuu]saw is already banned from ss.
2. Banned players can't join ss games.
3. If they do, host have to kick them.
4. Host didn't, so falc.vk recieve -2 rep points for letting in banned player.

That's all we can do in this case.

[crofalcon]

Ok seriously now, gimme a break guys... I just got safelisted that same morning, i created a game, loads of ppl just hopped in the game including the chain[uuu]saw who was banned (which i had no idea about till later in game), and absolutely NOBODY said anything besides "gogogo" etc. I mean, every single person there was SS much longer then me, and nobody could say anything ?
And after all that flaming that all u guys did ingame + on the forums even more, (which hasn't included me in any possible way) i'm the one and the ONLY one getting -rep because of this started thread because of something i didn't know / everyone else knew.

thanks alot!

[Hominghead]

Here you have the chat from that game:
http://dotastats.sycotic.net/example.php?id=lack_of_manners

god i read that,
and for me i wud rather had banned Nam instead of chainsaw.

according to the chat log nam got pissed bcs somebody didnt want to whore berserker kills, smart idea let them come nearer to base and **** all together.
I dont even know if a title like minimap is a familiar word for some people.

The noob part where nam gets totaly pissed and refuses to teamplay (-rep points)

now as chainsaw said himself hes 12, i was alike him in 12 so that is kinda same.
and belive me chainsaw had clear reason to piss u guys off where u cudnt even kill him.

i did same in one of pub games where i playingwith balanar had 40 hp and a shaker,rylai,mortred and troll cudnt kill me, i was simply running around the scourge forest like its not dota but a Grand Prix Formula 1 Champion Ship, after 2 laps i got bored and ran to base

there are times u gotta just squash it and endure, wanna have good game, shut up and concentrate, team refuses to teamplay, go solo and piss on everybody, jsut dont drop any words.

[BOo0nzY]

Ok seriously now, gimme a break guys... I just got safelisted that same morning, i created a game, loads of ppl just hopped in the game including the chain[uuu]saw who was banned (which i had no idea about till later in game), and absolutely NOBODY said anything besides "gogogo" etc. I mean, every single person there was SS much longer then me, and nobody could say anything ?
And after all that flaming that all u guys did ingame + on the forums even more, (which hasn't included me in any possible way) i'm the one and the ONLY one getting -rep because of this started thread because of something i didn't know / everyone else knew.

thanks alot!

I understand you , but you must understand the rules also. As a host , you MUST check if everyone is safelisted , and kick the unsafelisted if noone vouched for them. It is obvious that you did not read the rules as you should , or you red them and did not really care in respecting them , and as you see , you got punished as a lesson to respect them in upcoming days. This will not happen again if you do that way , and your -rep points will be decayed/gone after some time. That is my point of view.

[Mer]

fastest way to check if all players are safelisted is /w guard /g, a number in parentheses shows you how many safelisted players is in game. if someone is not safelisted you can use /w guard /gX where X is number of your game. it will show you list of safelisted players in your game.

[ANANANAN]

now as chainsaw said himself hes 12, i was alike him in 12 so that is kinda same.
and belive me chainsaw had clear reason to piss u guys off where u cudnt even kill him.

i did same in one of pub games where i playingwith balanar had 40 hp and a shaker,rylai,mortred and troll cudnt kill me, i was simply running around the scourge forest like its not dota but a Grand Prix Formula 1 Champion Ship, after 2 laps i got bored and ran to base

there are times u gotta just squash it and endure, wanna have good game, shut up and concentrate, team refuses to teamplay, go solo and piss on everybody, jsut dont drop any words.

We aren't at pub, so its not same, there are rules, and no, even if you are 12, rules are rules, you get manners or leave community..even at 12 you can have some manners...and y, this i find quiet a lot insulting...
"(45:58 / All) chain[uuu]saw: noobs?
(46:02 / All) chain[uuu]saw: 4 heroes cant kill me o.O
(46:11 / All) Michael_Myers: immortal ^^
(46:13 / All) chain[uuu]saw: hah
(46:23 / All) chain[uuu]saw: 4 heroes come 1 dead and still cant kill me ?
(46:26 / All) chain[uuu]saw: why u play dota?
(46:48 / All) bibac_boom: why u play dota?
(46:52 / All) chain[uuu]saw: coz i pwn?
(46:55 / All) Nam: sry, some people do have thgeir own lifes
(46:55 / All) -pony: lol
(46:57 / All) Nam: dont play 24/7
(46:57 / All) chain[uuu]saw: and u suck a lot
(47:00 / All) Nam: arrogant kid
(47:02 / All) chain[uuu]saw: lol
(47:10 / All) chain[uuu]saw: i dont play 24/
(47:12 / All) chain[uuu]saw: 7*
(47:14 / All) bibac_boom: so play dota to pwn we play dota to have fun
(47:14 / All) chain[uuu]saw: just have brain...
(47:16 / All) Nam: go to your gf and tell her, how much do u own at dota
(47:19 / All) Nam: she will be poud of surely
(47:22 / All) Nam: if u have gf..
(47:22 / All) Nam: ofc
(47:42 / All) chain[uuu]saw: ohh soo pro ..."

Saying why ar eyou playing, cuz i pwn? you noobs? even when they didnt response, just "^^" he continued to insult/flame, gg no re...

[BlackLagoon]

why u just dont kill him instead of mass whine?i mean half of text is about how 4 heroes cant kill him..lol

[ss-Kenyshor]

We already solved this thread. Closed.

[Artanthos]

I understand you , but you must understand the rules also. As a host , you MUST check if everyone is safelisted , and kick the unsafelisted if noone vouched for them. It is obvious that you did not read the rules as you should , or you red them and did not really care in respecting them , and as you see , you got punished as a lesson to respect them in upcoming days. This will not happen again if you do that way , and your -rep points will be decayed/gone after some time. That is my point of view.

That's the point.