World's Political News Discusions

[FD_Illizar]

I realized Serious Discussion had some thing less. and since i really like to become more familiarized with people's political ideas, i thought it would be a good thing to exchange our ideas and thoughts about every thing that happens around us. I'd be more than happy to see you share.

Let's start from ... say , Middle East. since Iran and Iraq are very much on the news recently. i like to know about your views about it? I'd be grateful if u freely give ur comments.

[-eXtasY-]

I just know that every conflict is made my USA on direct or indirect way , all wars are just one big economy calculation . Oil demand is high , while supply is geting lower with every day , what makes price going rapidly up . So the one who controls oil resources , controls worlds economy . common don't tell me that you believe in "terrorism stop" ****s? America is only trying to take control and ownership under oil. nothing more . Im just afraid of greater muslims resistance which could lead to world war, what could happen easily since 1/3 of worlds population is Islam .

[obey.my.dreamz]

i once heard nice saying about politicians :" Politicians are criminals , it's only that they've got gloves.."

Politics is wide subject ,.. u could give some directions,.
politics in a country itself, or political relations between some ...

ps. Very nice thread.

[FD_Illizar]

I just know that every conflict is made my USA on direct or indirect way , all wars are just one big economy calculation . Oil demand is high , while supply is geting lower with every day , what makes price going rapidly up . So the one who controls oil resources , controls worlds economy . common don't tell me that you believe in "terrorism stop" ****s? America is only trying to take control and ownership under oil. nothing more . Im just afraid of greater muslims resistance which could lead to world war, what could happen easily since 1/3 of worlds population is Islam .

True i believe in the same thing. Oil industry is very important and is defiantly in direct connection with the world's economy. So if USA which already has iraq under control could be able to lead it. it would be a great success for them.
US is all about keeping people in fear of terrorism. if terror wouldnt exist why do they need to stay in Middle East! So it shouldnt be stoped.(that is what they really want.) US is the country who made Big wars, not the small ones. take a look at Israel-Lebanon War: I say Israel politicians were really wise to make it at the time. because if u look at it they are the winner of the war from this point that they made a new thread to worlds peace which it would be Lebanon. u see, i couldn't actually understand how would Israel couldn't finish them off, later i realized it was not supposed to be conquered . US wanted a new terrorism society! whatever.
U really shouldnt be scared of WWIII. because no one would let that happen. the last close conflict that was about to begin the world war was in early 60s between Russia and US on the coast of Cuba. it just required Russia to lunch a nuclear missile on Us. when they decided not make such an evil move. Their marines turned away. Its dirty business u see!
I always like to be aware of it but never like to walk in.:thumbUP:

[KeweLi]

Yes, Bush has gone into Saudi Arabia this week to sell laser guided missiles to their nation. What else did Bush talk about? Oil. Saudi Arabia is the world's biggest oil exporter and selling such powerful technology to them gives Saudi a heads up against Israel. But in order to work on the high oil prices in the US economy, Bush must get his head in with the US dollar declining.

[OMGBergrush]

Im just afraid of greater muslims resistance which could lead to world war, what could happen easily since 1/3 of worlds population is Islam .

1st there are ~1billion muslims so that means there are around 1/6 of world population and
2nd except pakistan no other islamic nation holds the diplomatic trump card a.k.a. nuclear bomb so that pretty much means direct war is out of the question for these guys which is why the usa is going out of its way to stop iran from obtaining one

[-eXtasY-]

Imo that 1/6 calculation is bad and unreal , there are much more mustilim , just see Kosovo, is there anyone who can say how many of them are there? There are families with 13-14 children , unregistered etc. They have the strongest religion , which can easily unite them in "holy war" for Islam. About USA , no army will destory them , but nature will do that in no problem.

[`AVAX]

Imo that 1/6 calculation is bad and unreal , there are much more mustilim , just see Kosovo, is there anyone who can say how many of them are there? There are families with 13-14 children , unregistered etc. They have the strongest religion , which can easily unite them in "holy war" for Islam. About USA , no army will destory them , but nature will do that in no problem.

That is irrelevant, and shows your racistic side.

[-eXtasY-]

Where did i say anything against muslims ? Where did i mention what nationality i am? How do u know that im not a muslim ? Im just telling facts , i havnt said anything against Islam religion .....Correct me if im wrong but i heard calling for "Dzihad" three times : in Bosnia , Kosovo and Irak .

[NumbAndTimeless]

Imo that 1/6 calculation is bad and unreal , there are much more mustilim , just see Kosovo, is there anyone who can say how many of them are there? There are families with 13-14 children , unregistered etc. They have the strongest religion , which can easily unite them in "holy war" for Islam. About USA , no army will destory them , but nature will do that in no problem.

Please give me statistical proof which is a Representative Proportion of the Whole of Kosova's Population and the families which have 10+ Childs, then I will be more than happy to agree with you on such matters. Next, Kosova is a Secular country, religion is second hand there, and it has greater problems then carrying about a deity or something like that.

[IOwnYouAll]

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U really shouldnt be scared of WWIII. because no one would let that happen. the last close conflict that was about to begin the world war was in early 60s between Russia and US on the coast of Cuba. it just required Russia to lunch a nuclear missile on Us. when they decided not make such an evil move. Their marines turned away. Its dirty business u see!
I always like to be aware of it but never like to walk in.:thumbUP:

amn...aren't you refering to the COLD WAR between US and Russia? wich lasted about 60 years...
but that was more of a political war between comunism and democracy

[LyCaN.WarLorD]

Americans now want to buy some mines and oil from Russia :)

[`AVAX]

Where did i say anything against muslims ? Where did i mention what nationality i am? How do u know that im not a muslim ? Im just telling facts , i havnt said anything against Islam religion .....Correct me if im wrong but i heard calling for "Dzihad" three times : in Bosnia , Kosovo and Irak .

We were forced to 'change' our religion to muslim, I'm an atheist, and noone here gets offended if you say something against muslims.

Latest news here, they found very large oil resources in Albania, and I mean very large.

[-eXtasY-]

If its true now we know why USA helps you ;)

now there are 2 ways to go :

1. you let them take oil because they help you with Kosovo
2. they will say that you are terrorists (you are not to far since u support OVK) who are making A-bombs and invade you


p.s. of course if that is not a disinformation since it sounds quite unreal

[NumbAndTimeless]

You:
If its true now we know why USA helps you

now there are 2 ways to go :

1. you let them take oil because they help you with Kosovo
2. they will say that you are terrorists (you are not to far since u support OVK) who are making A-bombs and invade you


p.s. of course if that is not a disinformation since it sounds quite unreal

Me:
Please give me statistical proof which is a Representative Proportion of the Whole of Kosova's Population and the families which have 10+ Childs, then I will be more than happy to agree with you on such matters. Next, Kosova is a Secular country, religion is second hand there, and it has greater problems then carrying about a deity or something like that.

Ignoring my post, won't be the solution to anything.

[-eXtasY-]

How could i give you any Representative statistic when those families dont even want to register, no 1 knows how many of them really lives there. That was my point.

And that about religion is just rofl , do u have any idea what is happening there? i do , because one of my best friends lives in Serverna Mitrovica . Dont spread bull**** , please

[NumbAndTimeless]

How could i give you any Representative statistic when those families dont even want to register, no 1 knows how many of them really lives there. That was my point.

So by that, you have the freedom to assume anything you like? And as well as accept that assumption as a fact?

Until you have what i asked for a proof, then your assumption has no relevance to the topic. Its irrelevant to just state assumptions and opinions without no facts behind it.

Now the problem with the families registering is because of the state's position right now, it’s not because they are too many, it’s because the current government has more important stuff to take care off. When a policy is developed and created to tackle these kinds of things, things will be much easier.

At this moment there are about 2-3 Million citizens in Kosova.

[OMGBergrush]

i demand that 5-6 posts of -eXtasY- and NumbAndTimeless be deleted for the sake of staying on topic.
p.s. no one forced you to convert to islam my albanian enemy. your ancestors did so for the sake of having less taxes better treatment and the right to carry arms.

[FD_Illizar]

amn...aren't you refering to the COLD WAR between US and Russia? wich lasted about 60 years...
but that was more of a political war between comunism and democracy

not exactly, the cold war ended in 1990 with the fall of Soviet Union, they faced a real economic problem when working on a huge special project. what i earlier mentioned was part of the cold war. US wanted a nuclear missile base in Germany so Russia went for Cuba which was a new communist revolutionary society at the helm of Fidel Castro. Kennedy resisted for Cuba not becoming a nuclear base. so they were actuality going to make a very big war which they decided not to do and solve it with negotiations.

Cold war was some sort of technological challenge between them,full of spy games, small wars here and there,but finally US won with the fall of Soviet Union.
:box:

Latest news here, they found very large oil resources in Albania, and I mean very large.
can give more details about it.


2nd except pakistan no other islamic nation holds the diplomatic trump card a.k.a. nuclear bomb so that pretty much means direct war is out of the question for these guys which is why the usa is going out of its way to stop iran from obtaining one
US gave it to them them-selves.
they were after democracy in Pakistan and looking for an ally when Russia had already gave this technology to India.while a sudden coup d'etat interrupted and overthrown prime minister Ali Bhutto in 1977.Benazir regained her father's position in 1988-90 and 1993-96 when another coup happened by Parviz Mosharaf(current president of Pakistan which also happens to control the Army ) and she finally murdered some weeks ago. Pres.Mosharaf was losing power so he had to do something,i believe. he said he doesn't like the US to be involved and help them with standing against Al Qaeda ( i should say this organazation was first formed by the US friend in 80s [Ben Laden:Are u shocked?] for fighting against Soviet in Afghanistan.).in this case, i believe it has nothing to do with Al Qaeda, it's mosharafs himself. the big dictator and terrorist.

[-eXtasY-]

I would like to get some info about oil in Albania since i didn't find anything on google.

i demand that 5-6 posts of -eXtasY- and NumbAndTimeless be deleted
You are not in position to demand anything , just as you are not in position to judge if my posts are ontopick or not. Also no one asked for your opinion.
Those posts are related to worlds politics, in this case population grow, which was planed imho. If you don't like what i write add me to ignore list , i don't care what you say anyway.


p.s. this was offtopic, sorry for it but i had to answer

[imaginary]

Indeed ur posts are related to political discussions, but because they are more particular on Kosovo (again), u should continue with them on the appropriate thread, 'Serbia, Kosovo, etc'. Thnx.

[OMGBergrush]

not exactly, the cold war ended in 1990 with the fall of Soviet Union, they faced a real economic problem when working on a huge special project. what i earlier mentioned was part of the cold war. US wanted a nuclear missile base in Germany so Russia went for Cuba which was a new communist revolutionary society at the helm of Fidel Castro. Kennedy resisted for Cuba not becoming a nuclear base. so they were actuality going to make a very big war which they decided not to do and solve it with negotiations.
actually usa had a missle base in turkey which is like a suburb of the soviet union so the soviets responded in kind by stockpiling missiles in cuba which is a suburb of the usa. in the end both rocket bases were dismantled and the fleets were withdrawn because no one wanted to risk full-scale war. i cant help but think that some of the missiles were left in cuba because i seriously cannot believe that the usa would allow a communist county to exist right at their doorstep.

US gave it to them them-selves.
they were after democracy in Pakistan and looking for an ally when Russia had already gave this technology to India.while a sudden coup d'etat interrupted and overthrown prime minister Ali Bhutto in 1977.Benazir regained her father's position in 1988-90 and 1993-96 when another coup happened by Parviz Mosharaf(current president of Pakistan which also happens to control the Army ) and she finally murdered some weeks ago. Pres.Mosharaf was losing power so he had to do something,i believe. he said he doesn't like the US to be involved and help them with standing against Al Qaeda ( i should say this organazation was first formed by the US friend in 80s [Ben Laden:Are u shocked?] for fighting against Soviet in Afghanistan.).in this case, i believe it has nothing to do with Al Qaeda, it's mosharafs himself. the big dictator and terrorist.
the reason usa went out of their way to support the taliban in afganistan was because they are bent on keeping the russians away form the indian ocean.

[FD_Illizar]

A new flag proposed for consideration by the Iraqi parliament. The new design removes the Baath party insignia and spells out "God is great" in standard script; the yellow cle in the center signifies Kurdistan.

[obey.my.dreamz]

i think it's hard to draw ...

[FD_Illizar]

Well there goes US elections witch also plays a very important role on world's future policies. now is the last hours of Super Tuesday's push for candidates. whom do u think would take the lead on each side?
Democrats and Republicans !
Barack Obama vs Hilary Clinton. & John McCain vs Mitt Romney ?
so what do u think?

[Bonzy]

Democrats ftw!

[sushil]

i think it's hard to draw ...

Hmm it's too hard to draw....:tiphat: