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LoGiStiK
01-13-2008, 14:27
So , let's start this.
First off:
- Do you believe in Ghosts , Spirits , Demons , Angels and other.
- How and why do you think they exist?
- Feel free to compare one to each other.
- Have you ever seen such things? (no childish storyes)
- How would you clasifiy any of them? (good , evil and other terms)
- Where do you think they exist?
- What effects can they have on humans.
- What can they do?
These are just basic questions , you can ask and answer questions freely.
And as stated in the rules of this forum , no stupid childish posts.
IOwnYouAll
01-13-2008, 14:31
I belive in ghosts , the reason?
Well some events in my childhood which made me think the oposite .... i normaly was a sceptic but some things happened to me that made me think the contruary ...
many of them involved a specific house from my grandparents village ....
PS:i'm AJ , d3ath is a sceptic...
http://eurobattle.net/showthread.php?t=63100
Check this thread opened in clan nVp forum and some yutube vids posted there about paranormal things ghosts/spirits etc...
I don't believe in that stuff but it is interesting for me :)
ProfileScorp
01-13-2008, 17:50
i dont believe in this forms of existence :p, but we must thank verry much to the one who invented them :D, life would have been booring without them, their stories...
LyCaN.WarLorD
01-13-2008, 18:01
Well there were many shows on TV like haunted houses,seriall killers which were ''possesed'' by evil spirits etc. like Son of Sam (he was possesed by a demon who was in dog form :) )
fatman69
01-13-2008, 20:31
i don't beliebve in ghosts. i think our souls do exist in some shape in this world when we die, but ghosts and stuff like that is for kids
NumbAndTimeless
01-13-2008, 20:45
i don't beliebve in ghosts. i think our souls do exist in some shape in this world when we die, but ghosts and stuff like that is for kids
Define "Soul".
Is there any evidence in favor of this thing called "Soul".
Provide me with Logical Arguments for the Existence of "Soul".
Give me Empirical Evidence in favor of "Soul".
i saw on some tv show ... when a person dies that he loses i think 22g of body weight. so they think that its the soul's weight. dunno google it for exact info.
anyway if its correct, then its kinda rly hard proof.
edit: ok here are some links i found... on them it writes more 21g or 20 g.... although i watched this show like 2-4 years ago i remembered it :)
http://www.snopes.com/religion/soulweight.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul
http://www.lostmag.com/issue1/soulsweight.php
http://www.ghostweb.com/soul.html
SetoKaiba
01-13-2008, 20:52
it was not tv show it was from movie - 22g and its made up.
i dont believe in any of these.
A soul is something 'astral' afaik, so it shouldn't be weighting anything.
Moreover, is there any mathematical rule, how much one's soul weights?
How big is it?
In what shape?
So many questions ...
NumbAndTimeless
01-13-2008, 20:55
i saw on some tv show ... when a person dies that he loses i think 22g of body weight. so they think that its the soul's weight. dunno google it for exact info.
A person daily looses and then gains again 1-3 Kg. Now if you take in consideration that when a person dies he will not eat anything, furthermore his organs won’t work, and that he/she will start decaying etc. is quite a good explanation why a person might lose weight when he/she dies.
Furthermore with 100% certainty i will say that there is a perfectly good explanation on why people lose weight when they die, biological evidence etc.
His/her muscles will go dry because of no food being consumed, the body doesn't do any function etc. The weight the person will lose after he/she dies is very minimal.
it was not tv show it was from movie - 22g and its made up.
i dont believe in any of these.
its not from the movie, cause i never watched it... i read review of this movie few secs ago and i never watched it.
IOwnYouAll
01-13-2008, 21:17
so you guys don't believe in ghosts or demons ....
read The Key of Solomon and the Grimories and i bet 100$ that you will start believing if not completely , just a bit ..
SetoKaiba
01-14-2008, 01:00
read The Key of Solomon and the Grimories and i bet 100$ that you will start believing if not completely , just a bit ..I'll pm you when i finish reading with info how to send me my 100$.
only the fear that one day your flesh will decay and your soul will perish forever can make you explore the world your eyes cannot see; unfortunealy, there are so few info about the actual truth that lies in their world... 90% of written books are pure fairly tales.
ps. ghost = soul ; its just another approche for the word 'spirit' . if you deny ghosts then you deny your own soul/spirit.
the thing i always wondered is that why are we different from animals,bugs...
if there is a heaven for us, then it would be for animals also, which is kinda stupid.
i can answer you that question... but i cannot prove it to you what so ever..
as far as i know when the human being evolved(apes) there was a certian god which gave the humans spiritual power, therefor, soul. Just look abit at ancient chinese civilization belief, they were first to discover this energy.. and called it chakra.
fatman69
01-14-2008, 09:48
Define "Soul".
Is there any evidence in favor of this thing called "Soul".
Provide me with Logical Arguments for the Existence of "Soul".
Give me Empirical Evidence in favor of "Soul".
i said, "i think", that means it's my opinion. i don't have any Logical arguments, just my beliefs
IOwnYouAll
01-14-2008, 09:53
I'll pm you when i finish reading with info how to send me my 100$.
ok xD
[GOD]Marko
01-15-2008, 17:56
i dont believe in this forms of existence :p, but we must thank verry much to the one who invented them :D, life would have been booring without them, their stories...
I agree with you 100%
The.Traveller
01-17-2008, 00:00
i saw on some tv show ... when a person dies that he loses i think 22g of body weight. so they think that its the soul's weight. dunno google it for exact info.
anyway if its correct, then its kinda rly hard proof.
edit: ok here are some links i found... on them it writes more 21g or 20 g.... although i watched this show like 2-4 years ago i remembered it :)
http://www.snopes.com/religion/soulweight.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul
http://www.lostmag.com/issue1/soulsweight.php
http://www.ghostweb.com/soul.html
How the bloody hell can he loose 22g since people are hardly able to carry the body in the coffin?
Ofc i have heard about this before,but it doesn't make sense.
Btw,the idea of ghosts is very interesting and it is a metaphor for human's desire to not die,to stay on Earth.If ghosts are real then life after death is real too.Ohh beautiful dream :laugh:
ye 22g can make a person rly heavy :)
obey.my.dreamz
01-17-2008, 03:33
shouldn't that actually be 21g ? i mean,.. there's a movie named "21 gram" and i thing u caught that from that very film x)
yeah, btw ... i saw a ghost today... it was freakin' scary!
The.Traveller
01-17-2008, 10:28
ye 22g can make a person rly heavy :)
Oh haha i cannot stop laughing...My point is the body becomes MUCH heavier (double or triple even) after death,dunno how it can LOOSE any gram at all.I witnessed it on my own :smile3: .....so SHUSH :P
please elaborate for I am the one who doesn't understand a word of things u wrote.
how can it be heavier?
obey.my.dreamz
01-17-2008, 14:20
please elaborate for I am the one who doesn't understand a word of things u wrote.
how can it be heavier?
bcoz it has a ****en bullets in it !!
NumbAndTimeless
01-17-2008, 14:36
Oh haha i cannot stop laughing...My point is the body becomes MUCH heavier (double or triple even) after death,dunno how it can LOOSE any gram at all.I witnessed it on my own .....so SHUSH
After dying, a BODY will remain exactly its weight as it had before, of course after some years it will lose weight slowly, but for months it will stay the SAME weight give/take 10-20 gr. It WILL not gain a huge amount of weight or lose a huge amount of weight, it’s a very insignificant lose/gain of weight of 10-20 gr. as I said before, usually not even that.
The.Traveller
01-17-2008, 14:40
please elaborate for I am the one who doesn't understand a word of things u wrote.
how can it be heavier?
Hmm...lets see.How it becomes heavier? The weight of the body doubles or triples.If you want to to explain as WHY this happens i am afraid i'm not the right person to do it.
A baby is heavier while sleeping if you try to take him into your arms.Does it mean being active makes you lighter? Possibly,but this certainly means it has nothing to do with the so called "soul leaves the body" business.
Thinking about the substance which the ghosts are apparantely made of,don't you think 21-22g would be still much?
That's not possible, Traveller.
It may only 'look' like it's lighter, because when someone leans on your hands, he/she will look heavier, but if someone tries to climb on you, he/she looks lighter, or something like that.
The.Traveller
01-17-2008, 15:39
Avax,these are not my words.I would like to study it myself.But so far we can use only our logic.And thinking about weight after death,once dead the body begins to rot,taking on more fluids as the bacteria begin to work breaking down the cells of the body.So,this would explain why the weight doubles.
It looses weight only after a longer while,as the decomposition kicks in.Which ruins the idea of soul leaving the body.
And i am pretty sure,if ghosts are real they don't have weight at all,let alone 21g or 22g :)
Avax,these are not my words.I would like to study it myself.But so far we can use only our logic.And thinking about weight after death,once dead the body begins to rot,taking on more fluids as the bacteria begin to work breaking down the cells of the body.So,this would explain why the weight doubles.
It looses weight only after a longer while,as the decomposition kicks in.Which ruins the idea of soul leaving the body.
And i am pretty sure,if ghosts are real they don't have weight at all,let alone 21g or 22g :)
Well, I think that's what NumbAndTimeless said.
The.Traveller
01-17-2008, 18:26
Well, I think that's what NumbAndTimeless said.
Sorry,it wasn't my intention to copy his idea.The point was what i said in the last sentences,much more related to the thread's subject.
PuTnIk11
01-18-2008, 00:18
Ghost?! Yeah, I belive in them. Spirits and ghosts are NOT the same. Ghosts are here if they have unfinished bussines but souls live, not live but exist in something that we can't even understand!
Demons and ghosts are not the same. Demons are devil's slaves who are horassing the world.
I may call a geine and it is not hard.
But sometimes you wanna get rid of them.
'Cause they are just like us.
There is good and bad guys.
And it is hard to get rid of bad guys...
I may call a geine and it is not hard.
But sometimes you wanna get rid of them.
'Cause they are just like us.
There is good and bad guys.
And it is hard to get rid of bad guys...
omg they are dead people, avcors they are like us!
PuTniK17
02-10-2008, 03:56
I belive in spirts only cus, when we die WHERE WE GO?
That's the real question..
And i think, when we die we transform in soul/spirit and go in some good place.. And we can go on earth if we want.. :)
btw, that all sux.
omg they are dead people, avcors they are like us!
I said, they are geines not spirits...
If you don't beleive me,
I can show you If they are real or not (not on the internet :) )
I said, they are geines not spirits...
If you don't beleive me,
I can show you If they are real or not (not on the internet :) )
hmmm... I rly dont know whats the difference between genie and spirit but i would to see them even if im scared a bit! :D
PuTniK17
02-10-2008, 04:24
What's the differens between genie and spirit?
Difference is,
A sipirit is what belongs to a human except his phsycal body,
Genie is not a human it's made of fire but not satan and not a human, But it's human like being...It has a life just like us.And experinces with Genies even you find a good one is always scary...
Because you try to communicate with something you cannot see(some says it is smaller millions than a atom some says more...) But we know they exist.In most of the prophecies it doesn't write or says.And it actually not commonly talked.Also this prphecies forbid communication with genies...And I forgot to say; Sometimes they say they are sipirit just for joking to you.But prophecies also says sipirit exist.But you can not see and communicate with them.
PuTniK17
02-10-2008, 04:38
All in all, you wanna say, we can talk whit ghost..!
And i say lol.. We can't.. 'cus that's halucinate!
Or something like that..
So I wasn't clear or you are just killing time...
Difference is,
A sipirit is what belongs to a human except his phsycal body,
Genie is not a human it's made of fire but not satan and not a human, But it's human like being...It has a life just like us.And experinces with Genies even you find a good one is always scary...
Because you try to communicate with something you cannot see(some says it is smaller millions than a atom some says more...) But we know they exist.In most of the prophecies it doesn't write or says.And it actually not commonly talked.Also this prphecies forbid communication with genies...And I forgot to say; Sometimes they say they are sipirit just for joking to you.But prophecies also says sipirit exist.But you can not see and communicate with them.
hmm... Why are humans always in the second aspect... They know that we exist but little people know that they exist.
If we can comunicate whit them what cam they tell us?
If they are milions times smaller than atom that means that they dont obey the laws of fizics?
They have their own place to live just like us,
And they have their place to live just like us,
But they travel very fast,
Just like we are gonna be in Heaven,
In Heaven people walks in electricy fast and their phsycal shape is different then normal,
So their shape must be different then normal human...
They have their own place to live just like us,
And they have their place to live just like us,
But they travel very fast,
Just like we are gonna be in Heaven,
In Heaven people walks in electricy fast and their phsycal shape is different then normal,
So their shape must be different then normal human...
about the human part, you cant say that like that. Heaven is a state of soul(spirit) just like hell. But the earth is different way of existing of soul.
Then research in the Internet,You are only a body with sipirit in the earth when you leave the earth.Sipirit gonna leave you too...It will go another place, You will go to another place,
Btw, Sipirit is still that can't be understand by human beings,
some ppl things everything has a sipirit after this part is changed in Shamanism this sipirit being destroyed But in Boudism sipirit being reincarnated,
Even some religions with books accept this idea of sipirits travel to another place that is away from it's owner
Then research in the Internet,You are only a body with sipirit in the earth when you leave the earth.Sipirit gonna leave you too...It will go another place, You will go to another place,
Btw, Sipirit is still that can't be understand by human beings,
some ppl things everything has a sipirit after this part is changed in Shamanism this sipirit being destroyed But in Boudism sipirit being reincarnated,
Even some religions with books accept this idea of sipirits travel to another place that is away from it's owner
i dont wanna be a skeptic, but how can ANYONE know that?!
You have internet right?
and you know how to use right(except dling porno)? If you are curious so much...
You may know
The.Traveller
02-10-2008, 12:58
Why don't you guys wait till you pass away? It would be a safer source of finding the answer than the internet.
But the best idea is the one of reincarnation.The continuing of life in the manner of the waves.Nice thought!
i don't believe in spirits ghosts etc...
:S
The.Traveller
02-10-2008, 13:55
Rasta,you don't have to believe in them.But you can discuss about it nevertheless,noone will mind that.
Why don't you guys wait till you pass away? It would be a safer source of finding the answer than the internet.
But the best idea is the one of reincarnation.The continuing of life in the manner of the waves.Nice thought!
But there is something wrong with Reincarnation...
If we are gonna turn back with that sipirit,
Why do we do good things?
So the best idea is there is a different life that after you die.And this life gonna bring you back what you have done.
I mean punishment for bad things...
But there is not such a thing in Reincarnation and boudism it says;"do good deeds" If we are gonna come back with no punishment, WHY?
For feeling peace?I would feel better If I was rich, right?
Then there is a cross, a wrong thing...
And as i said, I may call genies but they try to trick you with that being sipirits...And again as i said, it is easy to call a genie.Just you might heard how to call a sipirit, When you call a sipirit, Actually a genie comes,
But be careful some of them really bad guys and as i said before,
it is not easy to get rid of them...
But there is something wrong with Reincarnation...
If we are gonna turn back with that sipirit,
Why do we do good things?
So the best idea is there is a different life that after you die.And this life gonna bring you back what you have done.
I mean punishment for bad things...
But there is not such a thing in Reincarnation and boudism it says;"do good deeds" If we are gonna come back with no punishment, WHY?
For feeling peace?I would feel better If I was rich, right?
Then there is a cross, a wrong thing...
And as i said, I may call genies but they try to trick you with that being sipirits...And again as i said, it is easy to call a genie.Just you might heard how to call a sipirit, When you call a sipirit, Actually a genie comes,
But be careful some of them really bad guys and as i said before,
it is not easy to get rid of them...
maybe because what you do in this life makes your next life quality
The.Traveller
02-10-2008, 23:17
What do you mean there is something wrong with this and that?? It's all pure theory.Noone knows what occurs in practice.Only that for me,it sounds more interesting than hell and heaven and purgatory.This latter one smells of rascism...
Some ppl says "I remember I am reincarnated, I was that famous footballer and i got shot with a cannonball" So this guys had a luxurious good life quality then he becomes a poor guy,
So isn't it still crossed Traveler? If we are gonna be reincarnated why do we live lets steal some money...
If someone gets us, we may suicide, then we will all gonna have another life and it might be poor guys life, a rich footballers life or a snail's life so is it quality?
Btw, I show no offence,
I just try to show some reason why it might be...I didn't understand why you say that I am offending, It is the only thing what i hate is rasicm, I had lots of discussions with fanatic racists...
The.Traveller
02-10-2008, 23:41
Does the word theory tell you anything???
I was simply talking about the IDEA of reincarnation.I don't claim it exists or that it's the only real thing.
And the rascism matter was about the IDEA of "hell,heaven,purgatory" trilogy.It has nothing to do with you,Hedene,nor with your words.It is a personal opinion of mine related to this subject :)
Calm down guys...
Here is my theory:
no matter what kind of life we live the next one is pure luck how its gonna be... So there is no point of life... And there is heaven and hell... When we die our soul is in some state, that state varies from heaven to hell and no matter in what state we are we are going trough some real agony because we make mistakes on earth and in what state we are depends how many years it will pass until we reincarnate
Ridicules lol, Your theories absolutely break every concept of nature, every physic's law, hell every law that we have is broken by these supernatural ideas.
Then research in the Internet,You are only a body with sipirit in the earth when you leave the earth.Sipirit gonna leave you too...It will go another place, You will go to another place,
Btw, Sipirit is still that can't be understand by human beings,
some ppl things everything has a sipirit after this part is changed in Shamanism this sipirit being destroyed But in Boudism sipirit being reincarnated,
Even some religions with books accept this idea of sipirits travel to another place that is away from it's owner
Are you insane? Spirit means Breath, please get that, its nothing supernatural, you people just try to find something and turn it 180 degrees to transform it into something completely ludicrous.
You people love fairy tails don't you?
But there is something wrong with Reincarnation...
If we are gonna turn back with that sipirit,
Why do we do good things?
So the best idea is there is a different life that after you die.And this life gonna bring you back what you have done.
I mean punishment for bad things...
But there is not such a thing in Reincarnation and boudism it says;"do good deeds" If we are gonna come back with no punishment, WHY?
For feeling peace?I would feel better If I was rich, right?
Then there is a cross, a wrong thing...
There is something wrong with reincarnation? Of course there is, maybe its because the impossibility of such a thing is just amazingly huge? No? Maybe its because it absolutely contradicts evolutionary discoveries as well as physic's laws no?
And one more thing, Good and Bad are completely perceptional, there is no such thing as Universal Good and Universal Bad, understand that.
And as i said, I may call genies but they try to trick you with that being sipirits...And again as i said, it is easy to call a genie.Just you might heard how to call a sipirit, When you call a sipirit, Actually a genie comes,
But be careful some of them really bad guys and as i said before,
it is not easy to get rid of them...
Sincerely are you trying to sell something with this? You do realize you sound completely like a mentally Ill person?
Does the word theory tell you anything???
Please, For the love of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, don't use the word Theory, you gotta earn to call something a Theory. Its a basic IDEA, nothing more, the title theory must be earned.
no matter what kind of life we live the next one is pure luck how its gonna be... So there is no point of life... And there is heaven and hell... When we die our soul is in some state, that state varies from heaven to hell and no matter in what state we are we are going trough some real agony because we make mistakes on earth and in what state we are depends how many years it will pass until we reincarnate
Here is my "theory":
You broke every natural Law
You didn't provide any proof of such things that you claimed
You didn't use any argument to persuade me
You didn't provide me with a definition of the term "Soul"
You went against evolution without any fact whatsoever
And oh my flying spaghetti monster, you said the most interesting 7 words i have ever heard in my life, "So there is no point of life" L O L. You my friend, don't deserve a life. Go donate your life to someone who knows what to do with it.
The.Traveller
02-11-2008, 22:13
For the Flying of Spaghetti monster,words do not make one less or more valuable.Everything can be called theory as long as it's not proved.
Btw,welcome back,Jody!
For the Flying of Spaghetti monster,words do not make one less or more valuable.Everything can be called theory as long as it's not proved.
Btw,welcome back,Jody!
I didn't mean theory as in only theory, because these people see Scientific Theory same as just a theory, so that is why i said its not worth being called a theory.
And Thank, i had to create another account since i forgot the password of the other one.
I am gonna ask you something...
The Mohammed, this person was a tradesman with no knowledge of reading and writing.And this guy found a new religion that more detailed than Christianity and Judaism Why I said "more detailed" ?
Because this person knew the "three water doesn't mix each other" rule before scientists find it.And this person made a book "altought he didn't knew how to write and read" with 365 words of day, 12 month words.Just like I said, He didn't knew how to write and read. But he was the most honest person in tradesmans and he didn't beleive to idolaters idols.
He rest in a cave Because of the violance near around.
And he had "The last prophet's signs" Like sign of last prophet as an birth spot on his chest,a cloud always watching after him,
Being a good person either having lots of villian's 'round...
Is this possible?No,of course...This person also said sipirts exist,
But this sipirits the things you can't see...Also it says genie's exist but there is no more detail than existance of them.
I am gonna ask you something...
The Mohammed, this person was a tradesman with no knowledge of reading and writing.And this guy found a new religion that more detailed than Christianity and Judaism Why I said "more detailed" ?
Give me proof of such a character ever existing. Don't give me proof from Muslim Historians please, thats plain biasness.
Because this person knew the "three water doesn't mix each other" rule before scientists find it.And this person made a book "altought he didn't knew how to write and read" with 365 words of day, 12 month words.Just like I said, He didn't knew how to write and read. But he was the most honest person in tradesmans and he didn't beleive to idolaters idols.
The Year concept and the Month Concept and the Day Concept were all developed and created in Ancient Mesopotamia about 5000-7000 Years B.C. So no Muhammad didn't know that, he most likely if ever existed just plainly copied old scriptures.
He rest in a cave Because of the violance near around.
And he had "The last prophet's signs" Like sign of last prophet as an birth spot on his chest,a cloud always watching after him,
Sure... And I can eat Spaghetti and then transform it into a Cherry.
Is this possible?No,of course...This person also said sipirts exist,
But this sipirits the things you can't see...Also it says genie's exist but there is no more detail than existance of them.
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You still have no idea what a spirit is do you? You still didn't define the term "Spirit". Ridicules Genies, if your over 8 years old, i would recommend you going to a Mental Institution.
see V.V.V this is exactly what I mean you are a recist,
You make fun of beleives and ideas,
And I don't even know you closer,
So If you use force,
It means I will use force,
"The Year concept and the Month Concept and the Day Concept were all developed and created in Ancient Mesopotamia about 5000-7000 Years B.C. So no Muhammad didn't know that, he most likely if ever existed just plainly copied old scriptures."
We talk about someone who doesn't know how to read and write,
So he was non cultured person,
search google for Mohammed's footprints it show that he exist,
His paint never made for being avoid from idoilism.
You still have no idea what a spirit is do you? You still didn't define the term "Spirit". Ridicules Genies, if your over 8 years old, i would recommend you going to a Mental Institution.
And you still didn't serached anything about "Paranormal activities" even in Philisophry there is "Parallel cosmos" and "Paranormal activities" please just search you little creepy racist...You ask about Even Mohammed lived?
If there wasn't any Mohammed then there wasn't any book we call "Qur'an" with hundreds of pages with knowledge and wisdom that never a man can understand exactly.What I mean is...
"Allah is the leader of the flags"
I ask you which flags?
The flags that your nation belong to ?
Or flags of animals?
Might be flag of universe?
If you really want to learn something you serach it.
But a racist doesn't do it.
Because they are ussualy fanatics to what they beleive...
And they just don't change theirselves...
There's no such thing as ghosts.
Give me proof of such a character ever existing. Don't give me proof from Muslim Historians please, thats plain biasness.
The Year concept and the Month Concept and the Day Concept were all developed and created in Ancient Mesopotamia about 5000-7000 Years B.C. So no Muhammad didn't know that, he most likely if ever existed just plainly copied old scriptures.
Sure... And I can eat Spaghetti and then transform it into a Cherry.
You still have no idea what a spirit is do you? You still didn't define the term "Spirit". Ridicules Genies, if your over 8 years old, i would recommend you going to a Mental Institution.
V.V.V what was your previous account?
I demand that you state your full name age and sex!
South.Park
02-21-2008, 15:06
V.V.V what was your previous account?
I demand that you state your full name age and sex!
lol, why should he do that?
maybe if u state ur he will his
V.V.V what was your previous account?
I demand that you state your full name age and sex!
And your reason is?
[RO]Claudiu
03-18-2008, 03:38
- i dont believe ( i've been to a house reported on the news to have ghosts and i didnt see any at night or at day . there was a magnetical field that caused electrical fluctuations so the lightbulbd exploded when u turned them on )
- there are no such things as ghosts !
- there is no good and evil . those " things are relative "
- 2 countryes are at war ,
example : a mother from one country talks with her child :
---- mom why do the talibans/americans attack us ?
---- because they are evil ! my son .. ( so each country thinks that the other is evil and they are good )
- ghosts/religion/gods are superstitions made up from ancient times because there was no other explaination due to the low level of knowledge .
i will tell you what ghosts are :
in some parts of the earth there are strong electromagnetical fields . when you enter they project your memories ( stored in your neurons as electrical impulses ) in 3d , or make you think that you see them in real life .
- there are no such things as angels , devils .
- life was brought to this planet by extraterestrials ( most plausable explaination i heard so far ) the first descendents were the chinese ( there were found in China very old fosilized chinese people that were even smaller had big heads almost no noses and big eyes ) , then they migrated across the world . life was brought to Earth by the time Mars was "alive" ( studies show that bacteria can withstand the impact of a meteorit crashing thru the atm and onto the surface of a planet, and they live in total vacuum and darkness )
- there is no life after death , i've been in clinical death some minutes :
i was in the bathtub the window was closed , after some hours the water wapors filled the room and i didnt have oxygen to breath . i was so relaxed i didnt notice , first i my hearing failed , then i had an incredible head ake like when the brain is suffocating , then i couldnt feel my arms and legs but i could move , as i was loosing conciesness i had a few moments to think about my life : " this cant be ... i'm so young ... i cant die now .... all my dreams ... i have so much to do ..... " then i got out of the bathtub and lost vision . after that : no light , no pain , no feelings , no sound , no anything . then i "woke up" in a hospital on the operation table with doctors and nurses and my parents around me .
so after you die you dont exist , there is no hell/heaven . " after you die the only thing that remains are the conciquences of your actions"
there are such things as transplant memory :
when you recieve an organ from a dying person or dead person you also recieve theyr memories , a part of them , because memories are stored in cells . read more about it here (http://skepdic.com/cellular.html)
i would like to add to the topic this question : what is sleep ? why do we sleep ? where are we when we sleep ? ( i know the answer but i'd like to see you guess :)
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