Best Race (vote)

[Demonhide_PT]

1. Human
2. Orc
3. Night Elves
4. Undead

[Terrorboy]

1. Human Alliance.
2. Night Elves.
3. Undead Scourge.
4. Orcish Horde.
:p

[Demonhide_PT]

I think the humans are the most ballanced race of them all, they have great anit-air units, great anti heavy armour units, great heros, good sorcerers and humans are also good at Vs piercing attacks..........

U can make lotsa tactics with the humans, and good tactics, i wont tell u mine tactics, but u just think... and u will realise that humans are the best race in the game:p

[TheFuckingScorp]

yep, and the votes will proove this....

[Terrorboy]

Brillance aura rox in team games;) This the biggest might of humans I think. If idiot Blizzard in 1.18 patch will ****ed this aura as I heard, I will change race .

[Demonhide_PT]

the brilliance aura rox not only for the archmage, but also for the other heroes arround him and for those sorceress, priests, and other heroes and spell casters if u are playing team games!

Brilliance aura is also cool when u have master priests and want to make inner fire (spends a lot of mana) and heal, the priests get almost infinite healing, the mana spent will regenerate and the priest will be able to heal again!:cool:

[Terrorboy]

you are newbie demonide, mana cost innerfire is 35. Master priest has 400 mana so it isnt a lot. Another human imba is FE on HumanTemple or similar maps.

[TheDarkWarlock]

terror, u r wrong
sometimes when u dont have full mana or have 2-3 priest for 12+units the mana not anouth without bril aura
dont forget u must save little mana for heal....
i always take aura as 2nd and not once i have stayed with no mana for priest after battle..... (or for pal/am)

[Demonhide_PT]

yes... Dark warlock has my point, im not talking about 5 priests for 7 other units. Dont just go saying everywhere that everyone is noob... plz, im less than noob, i play in bnet for a long time:cool: and im an experienced player

[Demonhide_PT]

(Fact) 35 mana X 12 units = 420 mana, this is not much, for 2 priests, that will still have to heal, and maybe dispell

[Who_Am_I]

Human isn't best race. UD is best race withoud any doubt. And plz plz say who voted for NE. I wanna see who is bigest n00b here that voted for NE. Plz answer who voted :)

[Demonhide_PT]

it wasnt me....

but why noob?:rolleyes:

[Who_Am_I]

Why n00b?

Maybe because NE don't have advantage vs any other race. UD vs NE is imbalanced matchup. HU vs NE is also broken. NE vs ORC , maybe the only matchup where NE has advantage.

[0nslaught]

Oh come on, give me a break WhoAmI. Your whining about NE is really getting old..
UD = best race = lol.

For example -
I´ve seen only one race beeing able to fast-tech without even building barracks, and at the same time building an expansion somewhere and survive. Guess what race.

[Demonhide_PT]

omfg.... Hu vs Ne is broken???u gotta be kidding!!

well tell u, look if u learn something!

:mad:

Footman>>>archer
Rifleman>>>Hunteress/Dryad
Spell breaker>>>Dryad/Druid of talon
Gryphon>>>Bears
Dragonhawk>>>Quimeras/Hippograph
Mortar team + Support>>>Dryads/Hunteress/giants/Archers


what else do u need??

The way u telling that, it feels like Dim3t3 and AmKuk werent pro after all...

[0nslaught]

damn this Theory-Craft.

I won´t even vote here, cuz I can´t say there is one overall best race.
There are certain matchups and unit combinations that are very hard to stop for other races, thats all. And every race has such combinations.

[Terrorboy]

Who_Am_I napisał(a)
Human isn't best race. UD is best race withoud any doubt. They were man, but long ago. In 1.17 hum>all:) Ud is more and more raped with every patch.

[Who_Am_I]

Ok some replys are funny :D. About that expoing and teching in same time i guess it's an orc :P^^ Amcuk isn't a pro LOL. I beat him 2-0 on his host. I have a lot more skill and expirience than you think i have. And demonhide NOBODY on this server is even semi-pro. Go watch heman, madfrog, zeus , spirit_moon, grubby , zacard if you wanna learn something. You won't learn nothing watching imortal_noob replays.

[TheDarkWarlock]

Originally posted by 0nslaught

I won´t even vote here, cuz I can´t say there is one overall best race.
There are certain matchups and unit combinations that are very hard to stop for other races, thats all. And every race has such combinations. [/B]

very true i agree (to be honest i did vote but its only 1 opinion of a humen player- im sure that if i was playing with another race my vote was not the same )

[sakky]

i see orc as most weakest race. and we all know how orcs go in battles all the time. against ALL races. retarded imbalanced grunts got upgrade on tier2 which they get pretty fast. afterall, hardest to counter with ranged+caster = ****ing ORC rush and their ****. imba in team, sure in team most of spells are imbalanced. and aura of potm is also imbalanced since it affects 30 units or even more. retarded newb.

and explanations to retarded ppl:
HUMAN DONT GET BRILIANCE BECAUSE OF AM OR PRIESTS, THEY HAVE ENOUGH MANA ALL THE TIME. SORCSS AND BREAKERS RUN OUT OF MANA, BUT THEY HAVE THEIR MANA COST VVERY BIG FOR THE THINGS IT DOES. compare it with tier3 spell bloodlust (40 mana) and slow costs 50 mana. human gets brilliance ( and waste 2 XP points) mostly because of MK. those who dont get it should just stop playing W3. AM can get blizzard and WE, and he can support it. like FS does with wolves and chain. they get lvl2 briliance for MK. and he can run out of mana, 2 spells of him do that if u use them few times in a row. just they make him having mana like AM would have.

demonhide said rifleman >> dryard coz he is retarded to get it that u cant go mass dryards. they arent supposed to be substitute for archers. they make opponent almost having no micro, by slowing unit, and u build few dryards to have that.

[sakky]

most biggest hero danger ****s:

UD **** (all ppl know) run fast AM and FS
orc clicking attack on hero+ purge purge purge purge purge, **** **** **** retarded stuff teleport me fast
MK + focus kill those melee heroes muther****ers
elf "slow him down" + focus kill, usually warden or dryard slow:/

elf has weakest nuke in a way. UD has strongest. orc has the most dumbest and u cant run away from purge purge purge purge even if u have all heals and full hitpoints. ****, most dumbest, coz i run with AM when DK and lich start spam, when MK triest **** i m runnig, elf tries i run. ORC purge purgepurgeprugergeprpgerpgopo retarded.

and orcs are weakest sure. coz they need excellent micro and recon to kill hero. just purgrrtergpergieprgoerpogeorgpoerjg ****ing imba ****. select al units and attack hero. select shaman formation and start spam. nooblet. and most of orcs arent so skilled to do that. while i wait for hero to hit him a bit and a bit and the use bolt + focus. all nukes are retarded like MK nuke, and all ppl know that its imbalanced. but u can save your ass by watching that to not happen. vs orc u can only save by----> teleport. retorc imbalance:mad: :mad: :mad:

still no race can be classified as better but there are a lot retarded stuff. random gives best chances since enemy doesnt know that to do in few minutes..... but random = anyrace, so watch by choosing it.

[Demonhide_PT]

Originally posted by Who_Am_I
Ok some replys are funny :D. About that expoing and teching in same time i guess it's an orc :P^^ Amcuk isn't a pro LOL. I beat him 2-0 on his host. I have a lot more skill and expirience than you think i have. And demonhide NOBODY on this server is even semi-pro. Go watch heman, madfrog, zeus , spirit_moon, grubby , zacard if you wanna learn something. You won't learn nothing watching imortal_noob replays.

man . . . u are my hero! I ARE SO GOOD BUT NONE CARES ABOUT YOUR DAMN POSTS
:D :D :D :D

[brain-o-man]

DONT INSULT HIM HE IS A GOOD PLAYER:p

and this thread is stupid ,best race?
:o and i just see some1 with fiend icon complaing on ud,archer complins about ne etc:)

[0nslaught]

@Brain-o-man: if you mean me with the fiend icon - show me where I complained that UD was weak. I didn´t.
I just wanted to make clear that NE isn´t the weakest race, if there even is a weakest race..

[Arie-]

undead

[Forest]

unded rulezz elfs to ale to wszystko zalezy od ruscha i ip

[Terrorboy]

Hehe, idz se zobacz na ladder europejski zamiast chrzanic bez sensu, w pierwszej 20 jest 10 humanow OMG. Moze to nie jest IMBA?
http://www.battle.net/war3/ladder/w3xp-ladder-solo.aspx?Gateway=Northrend

[sakky]

ladder has no point. and tours show real games, since level lost their meaning in late time, it is pretty easy and much easier that in ANY other patch to get high level, all ppl know that. and on tour decides only how good those players are in the moment. UD isnt the best coz e.g. fov and madfrog were plying in final. there are imbalanced matchups, true. and about that ladder, few things more.
lvl 50 akas : player, booooOOOO, apm70 were reseted couple of times for maphack. well, apm70 was reseted on almost every reset campaign. hey, thats why he doesnt tell his supporting akas in late time ( so ppl cant know was he reseted again). generally those guys usually say they dont hax. hey apm70 said after reset in may that he isnt hacking any more. and no akas of him are banned any more. but now ppl only know about his apm70 aka, rest of akas are secret (on which he trains and plays also). he was telling he isnt hacking any more after every time he got reseted. and as usual, ppl say its stupid, why arent they reseted now if they haxed. well apm70 and such players NEVER GOT RESET ON THEIR MAIN AKA. but we all know they were reseted. even some of them admitted (and said they wont hax any more ever again, as always:)).
thats why all other gosus call apm "hax0r gosu":D and maybe there is also way to hax w/o being banned. but i really dont wanna risk my cd key for that:)

[Who_Am_I]

About tournaments. Last big tournament i know just one thing no elfs/orcs in last 8. Wanna know reason? Basicly coz there was no good orc player on tournament.And NE got kicked coz also there wasn't many good players in tournament coz qualis were heled in destroyer bug version.About those NE who were in tournament i won't comment coz we probably know how did they losse.

And if something here isn't imbalance i'm brainless mother****er who has no knowledge of this game. apm70 aka deadman(probably with zeus and wizard best non-korean elf) gets owned by madfrog 99% of games when there is matchup UD vs NE. I just wanna few thing. apm70 is playing NE since i started to play war3 seriously and that is more than 1 year ago.That is OK madfrog skill >>apm70. IT's not gargs imbalance. Then why in the hell can apm70 beat madfrog with ORC???Wanna know why? Coz somebody who knows how to abuse gargs >>> NE withoud exception. And coz almost everybody knows how to abuse those skill less wywerns vs UD and ofcourse the FS+TC. If some player that plays one race over a year almost whole day can't beat some player with his primary race(elfs) and does it easily with race he don't play near 50% like he do with elfs that sure is imbalance and i don't wanna comment what is imbalanced. This is a message for you who say game is perfectly balanced and no race has more than slight advatage over other. You can flame me as much you want but i know i'm right.

And apm70 wasn't banned for more than a year and non of his akas are banned as far as i know. Akas apm70 ,at-deadman.vweb, better-quit-now, Autoheadshot just to name few.

[sakky]

madfrog >> apm70 currently. last time madfrog played with any race. and apm70 thought he will own elf and UD (madfrog was elf, and undead in games) with orc. he lost 2v1. and he lost his credibility again, coz he had his friend as observer, and he say his friend wasnt is same caffe. might be. so much about game u want to say that apm70 won vs madfrog. there was big discussion.
first game frog was elf and apm70 orc. apm70 lost. 2nd game madfrog vs UD, apm = orc. apm WON. adn u hear what is now unsolved there. third game some guys wanted this friend of apm70 should be out. and they didnt play game until it was done. and ---> madfrog won with UD vs orc in rematch. first was turtle, second gnow wood if i recall good.
most of akas u mentioned are currently (except his apm70) almost w/o any game played in last time. and he play A LOT all the time. he plays on other akas. he was reseted in this spring with some aka. and he said he dont hacks any more when they asked him. true is that e.g. grubby didnt want to play custom game vs apm70 because he wants to play ONLY IN LAN. he lied many times. and most of people even now dont belive him.

also, madfrog played vs 4k.tod and choose orc (actually both went random). he played with orc perfectly. thats because he is good with ANY race. he lost because of standard imbalance of 3 UD heroes and base. AND plz dl replay, u ll see lots of bug abusing, wolf harassing, that "4 zone" abuse in GW also etc..... he lost because of bad judgement of establishing an exp at the end, and a bit because of nukers. and yeah gargs are strong vs land too much + have bonus vs hunts. BUT, hypos >> gargs, and hypos are standard to switch if UD abuses vs NE (or even like madfrog did with talons only). elf goes mostly on mass archers+ talons vs UD. hey, madfrog beated also wizzard by gargs. then he faced against aether (american gosu) and beated same type of abuse with ELF on AMERICAN HOST. what to say on that?

i deleted replays when 1.17 came. but there they are on wcreplay.com. install 1.16 and see how "bad" he played with ALL races. and true when he played human vs orc there was visible imbalance. also vs elf...... he lost vs tod 2v1. he won one game elf vs orc. but there was visible how bad imbalance is going elf vs human in 1.16. like other where he went human vs orc:/
there are imbalances, but they arent so out of sence.

and wyverns vs oUD are imba jsut coz orc gets big number of them. and then he can even nuke with them, since they fly over units adn have BIG ATTACK. also they are good for fast killing acolites. something like mass rifles to kill fast hunts.

[sakky]

first sorry all for long post. second, correction. in madfrog's replays u can see ALL POSSIBLE IMBALANCES. ppl against whom he plays and him are abusing all types of bugs etc.
he sometimes switch race and plays very good.
but that doesnt mean all gosus chance race. e.g. insomnia plays ALL the time with human. but guess what? he would be god with any race, there are also other examples of players who play only one race. and u think they dont know all details about what can be abused by other races etc? lol, no way. thats why they are the best.

[Arie-]

first sorry all for long post thats why i dont read these threads, YOU are the reason :D

[Terrorboy]

Haha, nice Arie:) i tell u only, I were now on bnet forum,and guess on what race people complain the most...? Its really beutifull for me see 10 humans in top 20:cool: ......

[sakky]

FIRST, there is no top 20 now, see there is about 40 ppl with max level. 2nd most of those players own with any race. 3rd those buffs are hidious. other races got some buffs also. but human's gonna be so imba in new patch because of knights and footmen.

noobs who play retarded 3v3 and 4v4 have almost NO MICRO in those large teams. but when they start playing solo, then there is no noob tp to be blamed. its all your fault. and because blizzard imba, ofcourse. i played about 15 games in these couple of days. and i won 0 games by my skill. every time retard opponent says lucky, hacker, noob abuser etc. sure......
sure, lag is allways present. but why people like to say noob abuser these days? lol, one idiot said i m noob abuser, and he also played with firelord. mirror match, human vs human...... sure.
hey, also there is a cool strat with thinker in 1.17. u ll see:)

[brain-o-man]

heh badmanesrs on org is something normal dont be nerved by this they all like 2 say abuser fu,nigga etc,when they lose cause
they are realy a lot of people,and he wont be frends with you,all see ya every day like on pvpgn:p

[Demonhide_PT]

LOL:D :D :D

niggas
:D :D :D

[Demonhide_PT]

its true, ive been in northrend in a cyber cafe, and they are really rude, at the begining of a game u say:

-Hi

their answer is:

-Shut the **** up and play, u asshead:mad:

[Demonhide_PT]

btw, its a shame seeing Undead race rocking at the first place of votes...:rolleyes:

[Terrorboy]

Man I tell, lots of kids vote for them, becoz they are fascinated them, not becoz they are strong. I really heard funny texts from noobs only playing UMS "Ud is imba they have skeletons and vampire, they are great" :D Sorry, but its no joke.

[Demonhide_PT]

:eek:

[sakky]

UD = bugged hard. i just dont get it how come all those bugs are actually real time buffs for UD? and why the heck blizzard dont fix those militia bugs, most of human players at least 10 times saw that **** with militia bugged with call to arms, which makes them hard to control when enemy attacks, etc.... but no, they have smarter business, they make powerbuild costing much more than before, try going FE in this patch, u ll see u re short for about "1 footman" in army. ****ing nerfs. they nerf what was good and buff something what i almost didnt even used. next patch they re gonna remove rifles and buff knights some more. human will be even more imba. and orc whiners will whine for knight buff when they face army with only 2 knights and lose hero for not controling at all.

[TomErulz[Gay]]

Human are the most imba, btw i voted for them!

Im an Orc player, and Orc no imba ! Human IMba No.1
UD Imba No.2

HF ;)

[FreaK_mkd]

all races are good if u know how to play with them. and for that guy tomerulz all races are imba... btw i agree in one think orc + orc = human
isnt that true?!

[Sky][RunneR-]

Orc and Human -Imba rases

[Arie-]

im chaNging my mind: hu, ne, orc, ud

[Who_Am_I]

Ok after some thinking i'll post THE REAL advantages in certain matchup.

NE>UD
NE=ORC
NE<HU
HU<ORC
ORC>UD
UD=HU

If you don't agree with my post please post which part you don't agree and why. Plz post some inteligente and reasonable posts with facts not some like this:" Wtf do you know n00b HU>>>ORC" or something like that.

So in my opinion race standings are:

1. ORC
2. NE
3. HU
4. UD

Probably at the high level of play human is 2nd and night elf is 3rd mainly coz high level elfs use sucky strats vs human and high level humans know how to tower rush teching elf.

[Terrorboy]

I also change my mind and think hum=ne=ud=orc. I always thought orc sux, but now they won wcg 2004 and I little change my mind;) But I still love humans the much:) I just dunno how to play other races and always loss...I am typical human noob player without micro addict from autocasting wizards and brillance aura:D

[Demonhide_PT]

lol, yes, since ive started playing with another races after i see some replays, i could see that human wasnt that imba after all, Orc>Ne, thats what i think, orc are just too strong for hunteress/archer or dryad attack, and if they bring demolishers along, gg...;)

[Who_Am_I]

No man i am a NE player and i think that NE=ORC basicly coz catapults suck if other player has some micro and picks good heroes. Catapults are easily countered by micro(this requires minimal lag, and that's why there are many ORC players on xpam coz they oponent has lag and they just watch the battle withoud need to micro), basicly you evade shots from catapult. With beastmasters+archers and powercreeping or warden harass orc is basicly screwed if NE player don't have lag. There are many ways that NE can beat orc.I'm not going to give here exact build order and creeping path coz every orc who reads forum would own me :D I'll name few just for orientation what to do in NE vs ORC. First and probably easiest is beastmaster or warden or KoTG and 2 aow hunts+archers with expanding while you have superior force(before TC/SH and tier2 units come out). In time when they come your expand should be up and runing so you would have teching disadvantage but resource and number of forces would be on your side. You just need to keep your expand up and don't losse much forces coz when you manage to get to tier2 the game is basicly over except if orc has expand too or his hero levels are much higher than yours. 2nd is beastmaster+archers+talons+dryads+few hunts and that is probably the best strat at the moment vs orc. If you prefer warden you can go with her also.

[brain-o-man]

well from my expirience as orc (not much):)

it might change,i am still lv 24 :) ,so 26 more 2 go:D
but these are my matchups,and see my vs ud :(,longest avg, game,thats why i lose,rest are balanced 4 me

well here u go my games
Race Matchup Avg. Game Length Wins Losses Win % total exp
Orc Vs Human 15 Minutes 12- 7 63.20 % 2,089
Orc Vs Orc 15 Minutes 14- 9 60.90 % 2,529
Orc Vs Undead 20 Minutes 9 -14 39.10% 1274
Orc Vs Night Elf 15 Minutes 9-7 56.30 % 1,519

[Arie-]

as an orc, my MU vs UD would be the shortest: raiders > fiends, aoe > ghouls. Now as UD, i can say that NE > UD, HU = UD, Orc > UD, UD = UD, which is not very interesting :/

[Tango]

Ud > Ud
Hu > a&sup2;+b&sup2;
Protoss > Orc
Necromancer > Paladin :rolleyes:
Doom3 > Doom2
BMW > Mercedes
Mercedes > Elton John
My Gf > All

Its not race but player.

+

Human is the best overall race. They have everything.

[Demonhide_PT]

Originally posted by Tango
Ud > Ud
Hu > a&sup2;+b&sup2;
Protoss > Orc
Necromancer > Paladin :rolleyes:
Doom3 > Doom2


o_O

:D :D u forgot to mention, Ferrari>>>Porsche:p

[brain-o-man]

yeah and unreal tournament not there :D

[Rufus]

Originally posted by Tango

My Gf > All


No!

My Gf > All! :D

[iseetanksTwo]

omg i never read more Bull****s that here.All rases are good if u know how to play and if u r good player. u think that the orc win wcg and from that case orc is the best race looool.And u Who_i_am u don't know nothing abut this game u write here only bull****s...Think about it man i u think that u know everythink NO!! u Know nothing n/c

[gosu][ud]

race isnt important

u need improvisation

if u play SCHEMATIC u will lose ;)

[Terrorboy]

iseetanksTwo napisał(a)
omg i never read more Bull****s that here.All rases are good if u know how to play and if u r good player. u think that the orc win wcg and from that case orc is the best race looool.And u Who_i_am u don't know nothing abut this game u write here only bull****s...Think about it man i u think that u know everythink NO!! u Know nothing n/c You are stupid Iseetanks! I wrote orcs won wcg 2004 and maybe dont sux so much as I thought. Noone wrote they are the best, becoz this win! Next time read carefully before answer and dont ridicule yourself.

[Who_Am_I]

Originally posted by iseetanksTwo
omg i never read more Bull****s that here.All rases are good if u know how to play and if u r good player. u think that the orc win wcg and from that case orc is the best race looool.And u Who_i_am u don't know nothing abut this game u write here only bull****s...Think about it man i u think that u know everythink NO!! u Know nothing n/c


****ING NOOB COME ON XPAM AND PLAY AND STFU ABOUT THIS. I JUST HATE GUYS LIKE YOU, YOU JUST SAY THAT I'M NOOB AND I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS GAME WITHOUD ANY ****ING ARGUMENT AND THEN AFTER I GET PISSED OFF LIKE THIS YOU CALL ME BAD MANNER. WELL I DON'T GIVE A **** THIS ISN'T A SOCIAL CHAT HERE THIS IS ABOUT THIS ****ING GAME SO STFU IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ARGUMENTS OR COME ON THE DAMN SERVER AND PLAY THE GAME YOU STUPID.

[TomErulz[Gay]]

Originally posted by FreaK_mkd
all races are good if u know how to play with them. and for that guy tomerulz all races are imba... btw i agree in one think orc + orc = human
isnt that true?!

yes its true

ORC + ORC = HUMAN

BTW, that's on eksi's profile ^^

[iseetanksTwo]

Who_Am_I napisał(a)
****ING NOOB COME ON XPAM AND PLAY AND STFU ABOUT THIS. I JUST HATE GUYS LIKE YOU, YOU JUST SAY THAT I'M NOOB AND I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS GAME WITHOUD ANY ****ING ARGUMENT AND THEN AFTER I GET PISSED OFF LIKE THIS YOU CALL ME BAD MANNER. WELL I DON'T GIVE A **** THIS ISN'T A SOCIAL CHAT HERE THIS IS ABOUT THIS ****ING GAME SO STFU IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ARGUMENTS OR COME ON THE DAMN SERVER AND PLAY THE GAME YOU STUPID.

So if thta what i wrote isn't tru so why u r so angry ??.I sad only how u know that the one rece is bettre of rest man no one know this.u r Ne player and u know that if u PLay well u win there is one rule . The good Players win,and bad lose. remember this and don't say any ****ing thinks that the Ud Imba or something like that u sad that because u don't know how to win.maybe u know but the ppl who don't know they say like that .This is my opinin.I wait for bad words to me bacause of that.c u

[Who_Am_I]

This is probably the most idiotic post ever. Where did i say i have trouble with UD? I said that NE>>UD and that UD is probably the weakest race overall now. I'm not biased(if you know what it means) i'm completly objective. How can you say ORC doesn't own human when it is. Really if there is not counter to it there is probably something wrong with the game and one race is stronger than other.

[sakky]

no need to offend other people around. so beter stay away from such stories, both;)


now the story goes:)
short: orc NEVER relyed on micro more than human. true? yes it is. look replays u ll see that human requires excellent micro to be matched (not to own but being matched) against average orc. on the other side, orc isnt requiring so much micro, hey just try to beat someone with pointing footies or rifles.... u ll get the point.
true is, and noone can say other, that orc became 1.00-1.05 elf.
u like it or not. heeh, someone remembers massing hunts vs everything even not going bears but hunts on tier3? just hunts hunts adn u own with attack move. now elf wants to get rid of them after tier1. orc = abuser race, simply obvious imbalance, rushing guy who built tower against hero rush, rushing while upgrading, excellent scouting....
1.05 = hunting to the end. 1.17 = grunting to the end.
its orcraft 3 "abuse or the horde"

[iseetanksTwo]

Who_am_i i didn't say to any bad word so stfu and call me idiot.**** off me

[Demonhide_PT]

Hoa, calm down guyz, this are just opinions...

AND

Opinions are like ass holes, everyone has its own, and who wants to give it, can give it for free:D :D :D

[XyNuletz]

1.UD
2.HU
3-4. O&NE

[XyNuletz]

btw 4 m3 Radom rulz:)

[Terrorboy]

ok if human imba, orc imba, why the hell UD is leader of this idiot vote?:D

[iseetanksTwo]

i tell u something u knoiw why is like that because this is one big Imba LoL..and u can't stop it

[Terrorboy]

Hey man, could you use punctuation marks in your posts? Sorry, but its little hard to decode ;)

[Demonhide_PT]

i play orcs now, they are reeaal good, grunts are damn strong for the begining

[brain-o-man]

Originally posted by sakky
no need to offend other people around. so beter stay away from such stories, both;)


now the story goes:)
short: orc NEVER relyed on micro more than human. true? yes it is. look replays u ll see that human requires excellent micro to be matched (not to own but being matched) against average orc. on the other side, orc isnt requiring so much micro, hey just try to beat someone with pointing footies or rifles.... u ll get the point.
true is, and noone can say other, that orc became 1.00-1.05 elf.
u like it or not. heeh, someone remembers massing hunts vs everything even not going bears but hunts on tier3? just hunts hunts adn u own with attack move. now elf wants to get rid of them after tier1. orc = abuser race, simply obvious imbalance, rushing guy who built tower against hero rush, rushing while upgrading, excellent scouting....
1.05 = hunting to the end. 1.17 = grunting to the end.
its orcraft 3 "abuse or the horde"
well did u try massing mortarts?unstopable imba
there are also some guys that owned me hard with some funnny strats,and the truth is the longer te game ,there are more chance 4 human.even if he has big hero dissadvantage:(

[sakky]

massing mortars is something what i met in team games. and its bad combination if u do right thing:) enemy can reach mass air, and then strike against u. but its true, when games last more time, human has good chances vs orc, when u get gryphons. actually truth is that human wins (if both players are good) by doing knight switch after enemy saw gryphons to fool him. not by massing gryphons, unless enemy made mistake or already was in bad position, like: human got expand & suceeded to defend it, orc failed in rushing, because of some things...... especially if he loses 3+ level FS, it means gryphon power:D no rush, and tech plz:D:D:D something like if u wanna meet elf bears +dryards+high level demon. then enemy is very matched, u are in bad position, disadvantage for u. problem is that in solo i dont allow elf to get that, like orc doesnt allow massing gryphons like ppl think so. it means if u try it, enemy strikes to makes damage before u get what u wanted. and he prepares for u, but mostly enemy makes solid damage.
if u wanna compare FFA armies, well in FFA orc rulz obviously against ALL (xcept UD) races. human is very strong against orc in 2v2, depends on other factors but its very strong, u cant make things like in solo to make **** against human. in solo its bad.....
big team = elf rulz.

[Terrorboy]

If u have 2-3 workshops and produced mortars u can easily switch production to mass tanks with barrage....its bigger imba:) GG any air;) When I play vs orc on my host its no problem for me becoz I can micro, if I am not host - and have laggz - I often loss becoz its hard to kill this green uglies with 800 life and keep your foots/rifles alive :(

[Demonhide_PT]

thats crazy tatik!! excelent for quick destroying buildings like castle/forteress/necropolis/mines/etc.... mortars are also excelent at defending you city ive tryied with terrorboy and it real works:D :D

[tyrq]

hyhy the funnest trick with army of 10 mortars with any hum hero is make them invisible with socceres, go to the enemy base, destroy casttle, tree, ect if enemy dont tp to main buildin, we got extra time for destoryin barax :>...and tp back when enemy back :> its another version of AM Tporting to invisible unit in base with tanks :D.

[Terrorboy]

I dont know why people dont use it often, but it real works. Very good old trick to keep hero alive-put invisibility on hero and back safely to base for healing....:)

hyhy the funnest trick with army of 10 mortars with any hum hero is make them invisible with socceres, go to the enemy base, destroy casttle, tree, ect if enemy dont tp to main buildin, we got extra time for destoryin barax :>... I like this tricks with bloodmage, his flamestrike can helps a lot here OFC 2 bloodmages is better;)

[Kese]

ORC

[Piasqn]

HUMAN FOREVER

[keke]

Best race - HUman
2nd - undead
3rd - orc
last- NE

[tyrq]

I think there is no "the best" race...
eg. human can be really suprising but they need really exp. player with REALLY good micro. UD have 3 heros combo, orcs the best tier 1 units supported by harasing hero and Ne got overpowered mountain giants in tier 2 already...

HUMAN POWER ANYWAY :p

[Terrorboy]

tyrq napisał(a)


HUMAN POWER ANYWAY :p Hi Tyrq:) I cant belive it:p

[keke]

yes, it all depends on the player.. COnsider human the hardest to micro and orc much easier to micro, it all depends on how fast the player is :D

[Sky][RunneR-]

i dont think soooo..... NE are imbalanced why are they on 4th place

[g0d]allseer]

Leading...

[AmCuK]

Night elf race is hardest to play, the micro is always harder than other races, and when u make the micro better and get some skill, Night elves are the best..I think only hum is imba vs ne but i dont care this now..Some little imbalances can be, hum has too much stupid and much units, like siege tanks, gyhocopters..Btw im not pro but i try to play better..I like sprit_moon.. He is the best!