Complaint about ops at TR channel.

[Agoi]

Arcanath: He comes to the channel once/twice a week and he never do anything about swearing/flooding etc because when he is online he is usually afk.

Who.: He constantly gives voice to his friends. His friends usually acts like they are the kings of the channel, which is quite irritiating. At nights he also lets the people he likes and his "voiced" ops to insult/swear from time to time and does nothing about it. He also bans the people who dared to answer them.


Now the last thing they are trying to do is making safelist system in channel and they threatining to ban us we don't join it. And at our forums, euroturkey.freeforums.org, if we give negative feedback about safelist system the message usually ends up deleted.

For these reasons I would the like the ops listed up there to be deopped.

[AJalex]

well do you have screen shoots?

with pure word power you will not do anything

cheers

[Rake]

Hello.

I'm really sorry, but from several, various reasons, we can not do anything, according to your words only.We need to see some proof of what's you are saying.

So, basically, when you see anything of mentioned, again, just make screenshot and post here.If some channel operator is abusing his power in ay way, I asure you, proper action will be taken.

Greetings,
Rake.

[Arcanath]

I am not threatening anyone to ban if they do not join safelist, i am warning them. Its the whole point to safelist the channel, because now its full of laggers,leavers and spammers,the channel started to get periodic moderations again since we load to server, and after all i tries we found out the only way to deal with this is to get safelisted.And its not smt that much to ask,just to get in the forums and register your name to the list. I cant see any reason why a decent player would be against it.And btw i consulted with the admins first and i got the permission,that i need.
Its just i need to clarify this part of the complaints.
The rest of the post about me being hardly online,and who being abusive is just nothing but bs.I dunt even need to say anything about.
p.s i remember this guy from somewhere but i cant remember exactly -.-

[Dryas]

Hi everyone , this dryas , one of the OP's channel TR.

As most being online OP , I need to answer this player nicked agoi.

1) Arcanath's being offline and afk when online ;

that is completely false.I see arcanath every day periodically.If needed I can explain his other nicks which I know already. I can also list his bans, against swear and spam.for the last 2 weeks he is online as " arcanath" and working for safelist.

2) Safelist.

Most of the players -real ones - have no problem with the safelist aim.we are really tired of daily fresh account quiters !!! Nobody is forced ofcourse.Very few of the players are against of this safelist.I think , that must be normal pertancage.

3) OP Who. and his giving some peeop VOP.

we sometimes need to have fun.I dont believe it is against to rules of eurobattle.Once Who. and me gave vop title all the players in the channell :) and devoiced them quickly before TP_Moonstar comes to channel !!! just once.Like all OPs, we give VOP some good people who really have good manner.That is way of administration.
Swearing /using bad words in channel bye who is comletely lie !!

4) and Agoi ,

or in other words; adale , pavka, hasanbaba etc etc.

adale is already banned in channel TR.reason is swaer + bad manner.

He can NOT post any SS here , but I can post many of them.

sorry for disturbing you all ,cause of this banned player.

rgds

dryas - op channel TR

[therealpwn]

i have numerous complaints about dryas mainly because he bans players for personal reasons,locks and deletes the complaints about him on the turk forum. there is players who want to vote for who should stay op but he just locks the topic. plus he has banned 4 of my accounts just because i said long live pkk... please help us in the de-op poll :S

[RockNation]

Post proff. No proff no case.

[therealpwn]

proof is a screenshot of whispering to each other but it is in turkish :/

[[SyS]-SlayeR]

just post it someone will translate omg...

[Dryas]

hi again,

this is dryas , blamed by pw[N] [p][k][k] or some other nicks, same person.

I wanna summurize last 2 weeks in Turkey, there is an illegal terorist group
called as PKK , killing turkish soldiers in southerneast part in my country.And in last 2 weeks these terrorists had killed 35 turkish soldiers.All country are very sad, angry... turkish army are planning to enter norhern Iraq to fight with
these terrorist.and all players are getting verry angry and began swearing at(very badly even ) when someone says good things about pkk.Can not stop people for a long time , usually banning 15 -20 player to get them calm, advising them to take it easy.

and player Pw[N] has said "longlive pkk !! biji kurdistan (longlive kurdistan ) and I banned him very quickly as experienced before.and he insisting on ;

I gave wrong decision for him.

I have no personal reason with him , I didnt see him before(notice) , I never played him before.

and I advised him to post here , if admins decide that I did wrong , his problem would end.

at the below I translated all whispers between Pw[N] and dryas also SS

sorry for disturbing you such a problem but , fear_soa and pw[N] has to be answered by admins.Because they will not stop creating problem untill you give a decision.

rgds.dryas. OP channel tr

------------------translation-----------------------

to dryas : when will this ban will end ?
dryas : pemanent
to dryas : are you sick(mentally diesase here ) ? did I swear ?
dryas : not swear , provakating channel, and now added badmanner

to dryas : baddmanner added to permanent ban, very nice.... dont make show to me
dryas : hehehe :)
to dryas : it is very wrong what you have done here , I gonna post on forums.
dryas : pls post...
to dryas :pls tell me that man doing 3 time advertising (game name I think ) banned first then he came back ? how ?

dryas : spamming is not so big crime pw

to dryas : Yücezat (other player that pw blames as he also done provakation) said ,

" hey poeople , reliogions (wanting islamic revolution) are grasping whole country, lets do something"

if what I have done is provakation , then what is this ?

dryas : common pw...

to dryas : you had banned my acc.you are saying common.

dryas : I said pw , not pwn

to dryas : you are making show , you said whatever you said.

to dryas : did they assaign you as gm ( he means OP here) to give wrong decisions ?

dryas : look ! if they decide that I am wrong and done mistake against you ,
I will appoligize and leave OP title

to dryas : I said Yücezat also done provakation , you saying common !! how an answer is this ?

to dryas : are you making this discussion longer so that you break my patient and swear at you ?

dryas : I swear in god, this not true.this pkk subjcet makes me really angry.Asif I seem to smiling, but I m really angry with you.

[[G0D]BuuraPwner]

hi everyone

pw[N] , Fear , Pkk or some other guys are flaming the tr channel in Pkk ( terrorist group aganist Turkey )

If they shout good things about that terorist groups channel get really angry and than they began to swear to them.

What can ops do to them ? Can ops close up their mouth? No they cant but they are tryin to stop this style things in channel with bans kicks or stimulatives.

If we must find guilty thats not dryas , arcanath or some other ops.
When u look dialogues on ss you are gonna understand whats happening.
Last thing : Boys never try to play with fire its really dangerous 4 yours

regards

One of the players in tr channel

[Warri]

Hi guys! I'm one of the ops in channel TR,

As Dryas said and most of you already knew from TV, our country is having troubled times. But despite the fact, some people are trying to make fun of this situation in our channel, just for entertaining themselves. Seeing ppl driven insane and swearing around is making them happy. This is their sense of humour. Of course we can't stand and watch this kinda behaviour in our channel. Our aim is to create a peaceful channel which players have nice gaming experience and good conversations. As we all know there are some facts in the world that shouldn't be brought into a online gaming community; such as politics, religion, racism etc etc. Besides, we are all here to play aren't we? Seriously we don't/can't have any personal problems with channel TR users or anyone who respects our channel rules/eurobattle rules and have nice manners.

On the other hand, I just can't believe what I see here. This guy is saying that most of the ppl are complaining about Dryas. First of all channel tr has 4 ops Arcanath, Warri, Who and Dryas. Well guys tbh Dryas is like a living-bot, he is ONLINE most of the time in the channel listening to complaints, unban requests, trying to solve dozens of problems which other ppl may find stupid. If he can't stay in the channel he takes care about these problems via our forum website. He even accepts complaint screenshots to his personal MSN. I can honestly tell that he works even harder than any of us. Nobody is thanking him but accusing him with false things. His aim is just to make ppl say good things about our channel and our players. Unfortunately we are really ashamed for what other Turkish players (n00bing around and hacking, swearing etc etc...) done before. They are representing a whole country/race badly. We ops of channel TR are really working hard to change this bad image. We could be little harsh on the way but if we ever make any mistakes, we are mature enough to apologize. Eventually, we never ban a player without a good reason. I'd do the same If I was in Dryas' place and I know that Arcanath and Who. would do the same either.

Regards
Warri

[RememberTheName]

This is RememberTheName;

I'm an ordinary user in tr channel. I'm online at least 12-13 hours in server almost every day and i think i am one of the few people who know this and such arguments completely.

The user who created this topic and complained about channel tr operators "Agoi" has a lot of different accounts and dryas also wrote them. I think admins will definitely remember the account "adale"; he was selected as an operator after Turkey's ip ban cancelled. Because most of the users in channel Tr always complained about him; his being operator was ended; and i think he is trying to take revenge.

I can easily say that; this user always causes disorder in Channel TR by using different accounts and by provoking others.

He is using the name "PKK" to easily provoke all the users in Channel TR. I'm sure, all you have enough information about PKK; but i will clarify shortly: It is a terrorist organization that is responsible for killing at least 30.000 Turks ! I'm sure you can guess that using swear words and spamming could be easily started after hearing the name "PKK". And i think Agoi should tell these informations near his complains !!

Being a user in Channel TR; i want you to know that Agoi is a provocator and he is trying to create new arguments between admins and TR operators! He should tell everything about this topic. I call all you to be neutral and make a decision by taking into consideration my informations. Agoi is an absolutely provocator and two-faced people.

Almost all the users in channel TR is happy with current condition. Please don't let such provocators persuade you and please be aware of his benefits by causing such arguments.

Peace
RememberTheName

[coolleader]

pwn u want to unban at tr channel but tr channel is for turkish people ,isnt it ? and u said longlive pkk, biji kurdistan . pkk kills turkish people and soldiers.. so why people would want you at channel ?? ... i think our ops at least warri arcanath and dryas trying to do their best (i dont see who. much =) our time at eurobattle is different :p ) they ban only people who are swearing or like pwn (longlive pkk.. ) but this 2 word is the worst swear for turkish people .. this is my opinion

[RockNation]

Ok. I don't see any reason to deop Dryas and as well the other ops. I've also personally talked with them (Dryas and Who.) and they seem to be nice guys.

Now if you think that you have some good SS that need atention and has proff that the ops are abusing their powers then post it. If not this topic will be closed and reopening another one without any proffs will result in a forum ban for that user.

[Edit]: Actually PM me if you have proffs and want it open to post them. Untill then the topic is closed.