Strategies Thread

[Kominterna]

We can discuss strategies we/you use in PG, CG or we will use in cw :D

don't spam plz :D

I said don't spam plz, I am not joking...

Post strategy request or smth that is really imba...

I know that there is thread already on forum about strategy, but let it be clan nVp strategy thread ok=?

[Dragan]

Yes! I need strategy request how to counter this noob imba no skill :noob: elf fcken jebeni glupu retardi elfovi . NO OFFENCE but this sucksz0r!! HEEEEEY the guy has 77 apm and fcken ownz me like a kid wtf is that, not possible sh1t i quit wc3 ffs (that was a joke ^^)..ill never quit wc3 cuz some imba RTD hendi elfz :ass: NO OFFENCE!

Waitin for answer, and do it fast cuz im gonna rape ya!1 (that was joke too i rape only gurlz)

http://eurobattle.net/showthread.php?t=31389&page=11

[pRiMe]

With orcs u can make wyvs>dryads,talons bm + sh imba hero kill grunts or i preefer trolls if the guy is making strat mass talons and catapults mb some kodo.Anyway i'm orc noob but i saw replay from one guy who raped some gosu on north with trolls and catas vs that strat and ofc spirit walkers adept...but good elf>good orc with mass talons strat cuz it rules! :D

[Kominterna]

well take a look at this replay

unstoppable. (NE) vs. raiderghosttt (ORC)





well it is good to make spirit breakers if u are playing against an elves that way...
Make sure u kill his archers before he builds many claws...
heh since he is playing without DH and Ancient of Wind he don't have some anti air...
Feel free to make wind raiders and take SH for second hero :)
as prime said wind raiders > dryads bcz dryads are unarmored units and takes bonus dmg from piercing dmg...
Your opponents in those two reps had only 2-3 dryads...
So scout him good and when u make sure he dont have many dryads...go air
Even bat raiders > dryads bcz of siege dmg :p




Prime let me correct u... talons > wind raiders

Talons in the crow form have magic dmg and make bonus dmg to wind raiders which have light armor :D




When I play vs. ORC I take DH to burn BM's mana, archeres or hunters (i know that hunt suck but I don't have gosu micro yet so i take less loses by making hunts)
for second hero I go Beast Master and I am making dryads and talons
Only problem for me is if orc is making Demolishers :(
Later i make few claws and if needed i go chimeras if I'm sure orc don't have bat riders :D


But still micro > all


I was killed by Milan in PG yesterday but not bcz of his strategy but bcz of micro :(


I rarely lost from orcs
Milan and Goggo killed me yesterday and w3pg.cvile (OnlyForTesting) a month ago in PG ofc

To be honest i don't play against gosu orcs, that is why I win...
If i do i would be raped easily like yesterday from Milan...

I am just a n00b so don't listen to me, just skip this post :D

[Becko2500]

And another secret mastermind thread of Komi for spaming :O

[4N.Loveyall]

This rep is everything , like lyn who have to much skill

[pRiMe]

well yeah talons > orcs anyway but trolls and wyvs vs talons...well if u go bears and dryads vs orc then i suppose warden...

[Scoob_is_back]

panda ftw... where the posy :D

[4N.Loveyall]

lol just look at my rep :D

[Kominterna]

And another secret mastermind thread of Komi for spaming :O

panda ftw... where the posy :D

lol just look at my rep :D

FFS when I said no spam...means no spam, got it=???

Be happy coz I'm not mod inhere...

[pRiMe]

ohoo u see kominterna can show his wrath too! xD

[Dragan]

I think some of you have missunderstooded my strategy request, if you've watched the replays i attached, i'm losing from bears/dryds tactic, I NEVER LOSE VS TALONS --> this was a joke..anyway i hardly win them.

Beast master+fire lord+3 master bears+6 archers+don't forget the mass summons, elfs come in my base with these "few" units and rape me...sometimes i last a lil bit longer but most of the time i'm being out-microed, that seems kinda strange to me cuz most of my enemys (elfs with that tactic) has apm lower than 80 and im owned again...yeye i know apm doesn't matter, but sometimes it does...

Jbg maybe it's smth wrong with my micro..who knows.. :D

btw lul it's so hard to micro kodos, they're slow + dryds poison, try to escape that sh1t if u can...:strike:

[Scoob_is_back]

my only problem vs elf ... i can win all races easily with no problems but vs elf ..ffs i love they r imba demon burn dk/lich mana drayds and naga kill the destros .. bears kill fiends and GG quit=thx ... any ideas? :D

[pRiMe]

I think some of you have missunderstooded my strategy request, if you've watched the replays i attached, i'm losing from bears/dryds tactic, I NEVER LOSE VS TALONS --> this was a joke..anyway i hardly win them.

Beast master+fire lord+3 master bears+6 archers+don't forget the mass summons, elfs come in my base with these "few" units and rape me...sometimes i last a lil bit longer but most of the time i'm being out-microed, that seems kinda strange to me cuz most of my enemys (elfs with that tactic) has apm lower than 80 and im owned again...yeye i know apm doesn't matter, but sometimes it does...

Jbg maybe it's smth wrong with my micro..who knows.. :D

btw lul it's so hard to micro kodos, they're slow + dryds poison, try to escape that sh1t if u can...:strike:
mb if u try to ensnare first dryads and focus wyvs on them after that use kodos to devour bears and then is only left heroes he will use tp or say gg :p

[pRiMe]

my only problem vs elf ... i can win all races easily with no problems but vs elf ..ffs i love they r imba demon burn dk/lich mana drayds and naga kill the destros .. bears kill fiends and GG quit=thx ... any ideas? :D

U are trying to play like kisiu vs all strats fiends + destro he is skilled with that strat so u shoud watch his replays i saw much of them.Mb some abo to tank ur fiends and use coil nova focus destro on bears and every bear like that and then just focus fiends on dryads.

[Becko2500]

Komi is powerful evil ! The only chance to avoid him is
to get one Bible and and a cross and begging Jesus :pPpPPpPPp

[Kominterna]

my only problem vs elf ... i can win all races easily with no problems but vs elf ..ffs i love they r imba demon burn dk/lich mana drayds and naga kill the destros .. bears kill fiends and GG quit=thx ... any ideas? :D

Try playing DK + ghouls, Medusa or Lich + gargs, wagons + abos :D and few obsidian statues... anything but don't make fiends...

Number of wagons depends of number of his dryads...

But abominations and gargs should work especially if Elf don't have Panda...
One of the most important things with the UD is that u have higher lvl heroes than ur opponent...

I think some of you have missunderstooded my strategy request, if you've watched the replays i attached, i'm losing from bears/dryds tactic, I NEVER LOSE VS TALONS --> this was a joke..anyway i hardly win them.

Beast master+fire lord+3 master bears+6 archers+don't forget the mass summons, elfs come in my base with these "few" units and rape me...sometimes i last a lil bit longer but most of the time i'm being out-microed, that seems kinda strange to me cuz most of my enemys (elfs with that tactic) has apm lower than 80 and im owned again...yeye i know apm doesn't matter, but sometimes it does...

Jbg maybe it's smth wrong with my micro..who knows.. :D

btw lul it's so hard to micro kodos, they're slow + dryds poison, try to escape that sh1t if u can...:strike:

Look once when u kill his archers in the game make wind riders...

About attack with BM + FL + mass summons + archers + and few bears...
well just make spirit breakers and dispel summoned unites and eat bears with kodos
and kill archers with BM and keep hexing his heroes with SH
if he has dryads, well raiders should deal with them...

Yea easier said than done, hehe

but as i said Micro > All, well gl playing

[Becko2500]

Tell me how can human beat undead ?

I hate bugs: Orc<Elf , Und< Elf, Hu<Und, Elf<Hu , Und<Orc

[Scoob_is_back]

Wrong ! Ud > All

[mestar]

Tell me how can human beat undead ?

I hate bugs: Orc<Elf , Und< Elf, Hu<Und, Elf<Hu , Und<Orc

Expo. triple heroes 2 knights and 10 000 Helicopters= gg :)
It works trust me :)

But tell me how can UD beat ORC ?!

Very very hard

I find it best to go ghouls and try to do some surounds and destroy burrow,
and than fast t3 and make lich with orb buy Scrolls of healing make 3 fiends with web and ghoul frenzy, and when he see that you wont go mass destro as UD allways does he wont make Bats and than in some point of game you will have more money and make 3 more destros.
Ofcorse you have to be in constant fighting and dont let him expand.
Its nice in theory but vs good orc you will need alot luck also.

What you others noobs do ?

[_TerrorBlade_]

Look once when u kill his archers in the game make wind riders...

About attack with BM + FL + mass summons + archers + and few bears...
well just make spirit breakers and dispel summoned unites and eat bears with kodos
and kill archers with BM and keep hexing his heroes with SH
if he has dryads, well raiders should deal with them...

Yea easier said than done, hehe

but as i said Micro > All, well gl playing

wind riders vs elf? only noobs do that.
@Dacii:If he goes bm + arch your main goal is to either kill most of his archers or dont let his BM any exp. too hard you think? nope, after all bladeM is by far best hero but NOT in good hands, in a great mind.
But let's consider everything goes wrong and he gets FL along along with his BM and 6-7 archers.In this situation the timing is best way to get rid of him. He's goal is to get some borrows kills, building cancel etc. Patience is the key, as you should have a scroll of speed along with Naga as a 2nd hero you can easly beat his army either by nuking his heroes or by pwn his archers bcz they die pretty fast from bm+naga but still you should nuke his FL or best if u can force him to TP then go spirit walkers + MASS CATAS grunts raiders kodos, works vs every possible thing that ELF can throw at you, if you see he makes mass bears u dont have to mass kodos just make 3 or maximum 4 raider/grunt/spirit focus fire can easily kill bears so only a noob elf would mass bears.
Even more i think i have a rep that matches your problem, if i find it, i`ll post it.

@bluehero: in these days HU == UD, but on TS or LT it's obvious that HU > UD so stop crying, watch some reps and learn how to do it.

@mestar: ORC > UD indeed and there's a simple reason for that, anything that you can throw at ORC he has a counter at tier2 and has a ****ing strong one, but there is hope. It's more like a mind game, a game that u will loose many times before start wining it, but here it goes. on certain maps such as EI,TR, TS, LT playing fiends can an advantage but you need to know manys things, you need to know that getting lvl 3 on your DK is your main first goal not trying to harras him. Once you get tier 2 you have to head for tier3 pretty fast but still you need your lich as fast as possible bcz if he gets raiders before you get your lich, and u engage in battle, you`ll loose, also FROST ARMOUR is by far a great spell against orc so dont be lame and choose dark pact bcz i that spell is vs hum/mirror. As you reach tier3 dont me rush to get destros or anything you can get 1/2 aboms and then head on for a push along with 2 statues and ofc probably the most important CL with impale and orb on lich. This strat is so good that even if u camp after u get lvl 3 on DK can work, but it's all about micro in battle, u can easily get a hero kill if u know when to strike, it all comes with time, experience of playing the only way of true wining, you can read 100 guides and strategies but if u dont play hundred of games it's just nothing.
The ghoul way it's exactly how u said it, but you can variate some changes depending on how the game evolved for exemple if he goes for a ground army then u can get a DL instead of lich, and go for ghoul/fiend but it's very good to have destro prepared and when all raiders/bats are dead, just bring them on, and he lost.

[4N.Loveyall]

If elf have a good micro he will win u can have all what u want ....
and Mestar ur quest , How und can beat orc ... ?
U can go fiends and go upg when u have 3 fiends and make sec hero lich and u must fast upg to black castle and make 3 hero Cl and if u have good micro with fiends u will win .... depends of player ... [ micro with fiends , u know what i mean with that ..]

[pRiMe]

Mestar ask tito if u dont know how ud can beat orc :p tito is rly good ud

[Becko2500]

Expo. triple heroes 2 knights and 10 000 Helicopters= gg :)
It works trust me :)

aha ok ^^ i thoght the same but i needed to be sure

[Kominterna]

aha ok ^^ i thoght the same but i needed to be sure

I think that some of u here should watch replays where V_for_Vendeta is playing vs. UD but those reps. are 1.20 :(

[Becko2500]

I think that some of u here should watch replays where V_for_Vendeta is playing vs. UD but those reps. are 1.20 :(

lol then why u wrote it :d?

[pRiMe]

I think that some of u here should watch replays where V_for_Vendeta is playing vs. UD but those reps. are 1.20 :(

Heh he is noob vs ud as i know he lost atleast 15 times vs [bos]angry cuz he dont know what to play vs fiends+destro strat lol anyway kisiu has rly good micro and that why he pwnz all with that strat.

[Dragan]

Where are these replays, i can watch 1.20 reps.. lemme see few of them not all 15 :)

[Kominterna]

Heh he is noob vs ud as i know he lost atleast 15 times vs [bos]angry cuz he dont know what to play vs fiends+destro strat lol anyway kisiu has rly good micro and that why he pwnz all with that strat.

really, he was reported for MH 10 times but always from UD player...any idea why=???

but anyway he used copters in that games and destros were pwnd...
At the begining of the game footmans with defend > fiends :D

Well I'm not human player but I was impressed with his game style...

But I am nab ofc. :-)



Where are these replays, i can watch 1.20 reps.. lemme see few of them not all 15 :)

reps. of V_for_Vendeta=???

[Dragan]

reps. of V_for_Vendeta=???

Ye

[Kominterna]

enjoy for whoever is going to watch...

I was searching in MH section for 15 minutes ffs...
so show some gratitude :D

[Dragan]

enjoy for whoever is going to watch...

I was searching in MH section for 15 minutes ffs...
so show some gratitude :D


Thanks Kresho.

Can i call you like Kresho? :)

[pRiMe]

lol when vendeta played against angry on tour he made mass foots,knights and copters and angry lost only one fiend on the beggining as i remember cuz it was vendeta's host....i wont comment further.

[Kominterna]

Thanks Kresho.

Can i call you like Kresho? :)

yea why not :D


lol when vendeta played against angry on tour he made mass foots,knights and copters and angry lost only one fiend on the beggining as i remember cuz it was vendeta's host....i wont comment further.

yea me too...

Angry's skills are not questionable here...

[Tito]

Prime let me correct u... talons > wind raiders

Talons in the crow form have magic dmg and make bonus dmg to wind raiders which have light armor :D

Wow, really? Have you heard about an abuse? With that point of view, you can hope you won't play against me, then you will see the real wind raider power... and just to remind you, 2 bats = no more flying talons ;)

[Scoob_is_back]

Wow, really? Have you heard about an abuse? With that point of view, you can hope you won't play against me, then you will see the real wind raider power... and just to remind you, 2 bats = no more flying talons ;)

owned :D

[Tito]

Dunno why you can't beat elf... Its the easiest race to play against...

[Scoob_is_back]

not for me :/ demon took all mana and then that's all

[Tito]

And if he can't find you, because you are in his base killing his wisps ? ;)

[Scoob_is_back]

and denote the wisp ? and archers ? ;)

[Tito]

Archers make 7 damage to the blademaster, with 1 hp regeneration per sec, that's 6. So, she has to hit him 1000 times to kill him :)... and if he doesn't have anything else to do, let him detonate his wisps, 1 wisp = 60 gold and I won't mention how much wood he will lose and how late he will go in tr2 :)

[Brian_Molko]

huh .... imbalanced thing ... i never think about my playing that much. and analayzing it so detail... ffs :D

[mestar]

Thats only cuz you are noob.
I never go to fight without Calculator in my right hand, i dont need mouse just calculate a lot and i am very mucho imba :)

[4N.Loveyall]

Archers make 7 damage to the blademaster, with 1 hp regeneration per sec, that's 6. So, she has to hit him 1000 times to kill him :)... and if he doesn't have anything else to do, let him detonate his wisps, 1 wisp = 60 gold and I won't mention how much wood he will lose and how late he will go in tr2 :)

Tito Rofl , now all good elf hide his wisps and u cant kill them with bm ...
Look some reps ... And if DH get back he will took of u little mana and u will not do Windwalk again to kill his wisps , U MUST CREEP SOMEHOW and when u get 2 lvl try to kill his arch ... with 4 grunts u will do that easy ...

lol when vendeta played against angry on tour he made mass foots,knights and copters and angry lost only one fiend on the beggining as i remember cuz it was vendeta's host....i wont comment further.

Again u and ur angry_undead , ask ur girl friend[ Kisiu ] who win more games he or Vendeta and then ask Vendeta who win .... ONly guy who win more times Vendeta then Vendeta beat him IS THefunnyway [ Best Und on xpam ] , u can talk what u want but he is best .... Ur kisiu is nothing .


Edit PLZ

[Scoob_is_back]

hahhahhahaha callmetoto vs funnyway = 2-0 for callmetoto ...4nyall if u think that kisiu is nothing ..n/c just play vs him and we 'ill see :D

[Tito]

Tito Rofl , now all good elf hide his wisps and u cant kill them with bm ...
Look some reps ... And if DH get back he will took of u little mana and u will not do Windwalk again to kill his wisps , U MUST CREEP SOMEHOW and when u get 2 lvl try to kill his arch ... with 4 grunts u will do that easy ...
Nop, the xpam players aren't so good to know to take care of them wisps and trust me, they will get really nervious when u kill them bulidings every time they start buliding them. He won't have time to creep, all he can do it get dh lvl 2. But in that time, windraiders come, kill his wisp ( if he is well bulit as u said , he can't escape them :) ), them you keep anoying him with 7-8 windraiders, and u creep with 2 heroes and the rest of the army. It works if u are skilled, I mean skilled.

[Kominterna]

Hey post some strategy request here...
What suddenly you all become pros ffs=???

Prime ffs are u dead man=??
Haven't seen you for a while :)

[pRiMe]

I'm playing on north...i mean joking on north only playing 2v2/3v3/4v4 cuz it is imba to play without lag and playing for fun just.

[Kominterna]

I'm playing on north...i mean joking on north only playing 2v2/3v3/4v4 cuz it is imba to play without lag and playing for fun just.

heh ok, play anywhere u want but don't forget to post on forum from time to time :)

In case of CW...come XPam...

[pRiMe]

I will dont worry clan mate :p

[Scoob_is_back]

Heheheheh i found the solution to win mass wyvs and bats : > i won today 4 orc lvls 34/30/27/18 :laugh:

:D prime in at we rox :p

[Kominterna]

Heheheheh i found the solution to win mass wyvs and bats : > i won today 4 orc lvls 34/30/27/18 :laugh:

:D prime in at we rox :p

well post some replays instead of an empty words :)
not that I d0n't believe that u rox but I would like too see u guys acting :)

BTW ***z why don't post some strategy request or smth=??

I will soon...for few hours :)
Humans bothering me very much...


P.S. Don't spam...


And I forgot smth...

Clan nVp > Sacred > All ...thx

[pRiMe]

Nahh i play noobish so i wont post any replay we just have luck...

[Scoob_is_back]

:offtopic: ==>> HOW can ud win elf -.- i am sick of it

[rapeMe]

easy - mass gargs and elf is doomed. but dont let elf to cr8 mass dryads,that will be end of ur game . belive me

about panda .. nova+coil lvl 2 will kill that fat bear.

[pRiMe]

Yap but any decent player knows to protect hero: potion of healing,potion of invulnerability,staff of tp and sometimes but rarely ppl use potion of invisibility.

[Kominterna]

:offtopic: ==>> HOW can ud win elf -.- i am sick of it

Heh you will never win vs. good NE player if u are making fiends.
Fiends sucks. Try Summoning DK and make few ghouls, buy rode of necromancy and try harassing him.
If u are skilled enough u should be able to surround his DH
using ghouls and skeletons. If he is making hunts he is doomed even more.
Well good UD players usually makes gargs and then doing some wisp harassment.
Just slow him down. But it is not so easy. U need more than skill to do that.
If NE is going DH + archers, Panda + dryads and few claws as usually good NE players do vs. UD,
well good luck playing. But making DK + fiends, Lich + destros and few abos is good strategy, but still sucks.
Gargs are better choice, trust me. In NE vs. UD games, usually wins player who is more skilled, better micro and faster...
Why don't u try to play some CG with some of us. We are playing every day and u are playing DotA...
Well skill comes with the time and more games played, so... Come play few practice games with us...
Heh if NE is making mass bears try to surprise him with banshees :D
Well what to say, for me it is hard to play vs. good UD players...
U could try using ghouls, necromancers, wagons and abos. :D
It is hard to counter that with NE...




It is so fcking hard for me to play vs. Humans and UD :(
Orcs and NE are not big problem.

What the **** should I do vs. humans=???
I usually play with DR + archers, BM + dryads, talons, claws and chimeras.
Well mixed combo :)
This strategy worked well when I was constantly making hard pressure on him.
Using skeletons and archers u can do smth.
But later when Human makes few mortars, goodbye to my dryads and talons, and with
sorceresses and spell breakers goodbye to my bears ffs.

On bigger map I usually go DH + archers or hunters.
Recently I was suggested to pick naga for second hero And it works.
I made 2-3 dryads and then I'm making claws...
But it's ****ing hard ffs.
What the **** can I improve or change here=???

Last time I lost the game vs. some nab human with 6/8 stats, ffs wtf i was so fcking angry...
Well he used MH but, I think that he would win even without it...

But every lets say normal, moderate human player can beat me... ffs

And what the **** should I make vs. guy who is massing headhunters ffs=???
I was playing vs. 4N.LoveYaLL and he made mass trolls.
Well i just want to know if I ever encounter that in PG what should I do=???
I never saw orcs making mass trolls vs. NE, I mean WFT, but it is good vs. NE...

[pRiMe]

Vs necros and cata NE make dryads and bears dh/bm/dr and panda bring 3/4 wisps and gg ud pwned.

[Kominterna]

Vs necros and cata NE make dryads and bears dh/bm/dr and panda bring 3/4 wisps and gg ud pwned.

Yea I know, I did that vs. guy who was making that.
He even came with banshees :(
It was hard to counter trust me...
And I cannot take wisps with me wherever I go :(

[Scoob_is_back]

i dont play dota ffs i chat with prime about 3 hours -.- or we play at and when he enter dota i follow him that's all dota is such a nooby game xd

WELL for me i think that i can counter elf now after i won some players lvl 26+

STRAT = dk/7fiends/lich+orb ofc/cl/3-4 ambobo/mass destro/and 2 scrolls of healing and 2 statues = GG for UD cuse ghuls > drayds/ fiends+heros vs his heros and mass destro vs bears and ambobo to tank fiends/destro GG

P.S. at the begining of the game when demon come and try to take my mana i kill him ( in 80% of my games )



Komi u mean how to win hu with ud ? :blink:

oh i saved a replay vs lvl 26 elf

[Kominterna]

Komi u mean how to win hu with ud ? :blink:

No I meant how to win Humans with NE.

Heh I'm not playing UD anymore, such a boring race xD

NE has the most units of all other races which gives me a lot of noobish possibilities :)

I used to play with all races, but not anymore...

[pRiMe]

i dont play dota ffs i chat with prime about 3 hours -.- or we play at and when he enter dota i follow him that's all dota is such a nooby game xd

WELL for me i think that i can counter elf now after i won some players lvl 26+

STRAT = dk/7fiends/lich+orb ofc/cl/3-4 ambobo/mass destro/and 2 scrolls of healing and 2 statues = GG for UD cuse ghuls > drayds/ fiends+heros vs his heros and mass destro vs bears and ambobo to tank fiends/destro GG

P.S. at the begining of the game when demon come and try to take my mana i kill him ( in 80% of my games )



Komi u mean how to win hu with ud ? :blink:

oh i saved a replay vs lvl 26 elf

Anyway imba strat vs elfs is ghouls+gargs that ownz and nothing ownz vs elf as that strat :p btw u should try to play vs my elf enemy vs who i almost lost :/ and i must that guy is better then me i just micro little more then usuall i do and i was cunning with abusing :p

[Kominterna]

Anyway imba strat vs elfs is ghouls+gargs that ownz and nothing ownz vs elf as that strat

Amen!!!

[Tito]

How to play against panda with gargs.

When he make u drunk, u just make the gargs in the stone form and he'll probably use fire breath in same time, so if u are fast enough, it won't take damage. After that make them alive again and focus dryads. When panda will use fire breath, then you will use a healing scroll and that's it. Elf's pwned.

[rapeMe]

yea..but only few xpam players are fast enough to do that stone(or whatever) with gargs .. with panda u go .. 'D' then 'F' ..these buttons are close,so any good elf will do that quickly...

[Scoob_is_back]

How to play against panda with gargs.

When he make u drunk, u just make the gargs in the stone form and he'll probably use fire breath in same time, so if u are fast enough, it won't take damage. After that make them alive again and focus dryads. When panda will use fire breath, then you will use a healing scroll and that's it. Elf's pwned.

tito not all ppl like u i mean u have fast micro/macro and u use ur brain :p
and the more important thing that u r pro xD

[[FaLLAngeL]]

yea..but only few xpam players are fast enough to do that stone(or whatever) with gargs .. with panda u go .. 'D' then 'F' ..these buttons are close,so any good elf will do that quickly...

it isnt so hard but i dont like 2 make garg`s ....

[Tito]

tito not all ppl like u i mean u have fast micro/macro and u use ur brain :p
and the more important thing that u r pro xD
You don't need a lot of actions to do that... That's two clicks durring the battle...

And... you will never be good at anything if you don't use your brain -.-

[Brian_Molko]

;594429']it isnt so hard but i dont like 2 make garg`s ....
must always go gargs vs elf,gargs r the most useful units ever,u kill a lot of wisps with them,u can easyly destroy elfs gold mine,and they take only 2 food,so if u upgrade their dmg they will****ing own elf,cuz they do extra dmg to driads,bears cant hit htem,and if elf go just mass driads ... its so much easyier to focus grags on driads then driads on gargs..

[Kominterna]

must always go gargs vs elf,gargs r the most useful units ever,u kill a lot of wisps with them,u can easyly destroy elfs gold mine,and they take only 2 food,so if u upgrade their dmg they will****ing own elf,cuz they do extra dmg to driads,bears cant hit htem,and if elf go just mass driads ... its so much easyier to focus grags on driads then driads on gargs..

Indeed...

But I have some ****ty idea...
How about making 20 talons :)
In craw form and with support of DH and Panda (with orbs ofc) they can kill 15 gargs...
If they are fully upgraded, when u kill gargs u can cast cyclone on land units.

Is this possible to accomplish or not :confused:

[Tito]

Archs/talons 3x> gargs.

[rapeMe]

Nova 2/3 lvl 2/3 times . gg

[Kominterna]

Hmm... mana burn 2/3 lvl 2/3 times. gg
It all depends on situation. I never tried so I cannot tell :)

BTW I suck. very much. more than Prime ffs, and that is much indeed.

[Tito]

Scrol of healing > Nova.

DH>DK,Lich.

[Jovic]

dont do gargs vs good elf... just tech to aboms wagons .. upgrade cloud.. and gg.. if he makes lots of bears... make some destros.. gg... no way i can beat that... even if i have better mirco ...

[Kominterna]

dont do gargs vs good elf... just tech to aboms wagons .. upgrade cloud.. and gg.. if he makes lots of bears... make some destros.. gg... no way i can beat that... even if i have better mo ...

yea indeed I saw your replay vs. [BoS]Lucifer :D

Abos ftw with cloud :D
gg for dryads :P

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

is it good at ffa with night elvez to faast upgrade then make small group that consists kotg potm 3 dryads 3 mountain giants and 4 chimaeras. farm until u get 6 level with both heroes(kotg needs lvl 6 first) then simply find enemy and destroy him :) its not hard as it looks like :)

[Kominterna]

is it good at ffa with night elvez to faast upgrade then make small group that consists kotg potm 3 dryads 3 mountain giants and 4 chimaeras. farm until u get 6 level with both heroes(kotg needs lvl 6 first) then simply find enemy and destroy him :) its not hard as it looks like :)

Last night I won my first PG FFA game.

I summoned warden bcz of good focus with shadow strike and later imba spirit of vengeance. With orb she is good to pwn Wyrms.
I made few archers and I creep few spots till tr2.
Than I bought Panda as Tito nab :D suggested to cast those freaky name spells on wyrms and fiends (I had orb ofc)
I made few dryads and few giants and bears to creep easier till i upgrade in tr3 and make Chimeras and hipogryphs.
After upgrade in tr3 i bought Pit Lord, with that spell for reducing dmg wyrms are not stronger than hipogryphs.

Well Tito mab thx for suggestions :D


But I won in some strange circumstances which I cannot mention :D
It is not hack usage nor team play...

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

hehehe warden is very good hero for elves...but why u didnt take kotg and potm....try their ultimates together :)
btw do you have replay

[Kominterna]

hehehe warden is very good hero for elves...but why u didnt take kotg and potm....try their ultimates together :)
btw do you have replay

Well I would be forced to summon KotG and PotM If there is no tavern on some ****ty FFA map if that map even exists :D

Heh I don't have that replay :D

Well boring game :D
At least last 15 minutes.

[4N.Loveyall]

dont do gargs vs good elf... just tech to aboms wagons .. upgrade cloud.. and gg.. if he makes lots of bears... make some destros.. gg... no way i can beat that... even if i have better mirco ...

gargs = imba vs elf , just u must know what to do with them ...

[mestar]

Did anyone of you saw the way bos]angry plays?!
He is imba Ud player on this server. But i cant understand how can he with just one strat play vs every race and pawn them all.
He plays fiend strat with fast tech and than his army is something like this:
triple heroes, 2 destro, 2 abos,5 fiends, and two statues.
Also i saw that he uses only one group hotkey for units, he has everything under 1 and also he doesnt control those two statues he just puts them to follow lich al the time. His apm is almost never higher than 150 (its not important but under 150 is little low for so good player isnt it ? )
I really like his play style when i started playing here i copied his strat. But this is so wierd...especially that thing only one group...
Dont think that I judge him or smth i am just curious.
Prime i think you said that he learned you to play with UD, do you also play his strat or smth else?

How do you others hotkey your units? (just units no buildings)

[Tito]

Fiends and heroes in #1
Destroers and dk at #2
Statues #3


-----------------------
Abos, ghouls and heroes #1
fiends/destroes #2
Statues #3

[Kominterna]

Fiends and heroes in #1
Destroers and dk at #2
Statues #3


-----------------------
Abos, ghouls and heroes #1
fiends/destroes #2
Statues #3

Tito you are good boy, but why do you speak with lvl upers :)


Melee units #1
Ranged units #2
Casters #3
Catapults #4
Summoned units #5

Pills #6
Air conditioner #7
hooker #8
taxi pizza #9

If you need to select only hero from group of units you use F1 button for first hero, F2 for second etc...

I use this with NE...

6-9 is joke ofc :D
but it would be really gosu :)

[Becko0]

Fiends and heroes in #1
Destroers and dk at #2
Statues #3


-----------------------
Abos, ghouls and heroes #1
fiends/destroes #2
Statues #3

When im playing und im selecting them on the same way :thumbUP:

[pRiMe]

Did anyone of you saw the way bos]angry plays?!
He is imba Ud player on this server. But i cant understand how can he with just one strat play vs every race and pawn them all.
He plays fiend strat with fast tech and than his army is something like this:
triple heroes, 2 destro, 2 abos,5 fiends, and two statues.
Also i saw that he uses only one group hotkey for units, he has everything under 1 and also he doesnt control those two statues he just puts them to follow lich al the time. His apm is almost never higher than 150 (its not important but under 150 is little low for so good player isnt it ? )
I really like his play style when i started playing here i copied his strat. But this is so wierd...especially that thing only one group...
Dont think that I judge him or smth i am just curious.
Prime i think you said that he learned you to play with UD, do you also play his strat or smth else?

How do you others hotkey your units? (just units no buildings)

Yap he using only that strat vs all cuz he plays strat like mouz.philbot thats why he is my fav0rite ud player.I remember he played vs piko guy and piko is 14 place in croatia in wc3 as i heard from him and his friends...anyway angry lost only one destro and one fiends in both games,piko said on the beggining of the first game ''Piko will own all on this server!'' xDD.And yes i learned from him,as i saw he dont need high apm cuz he pwns with 120 apm rly hard + he make 3 heros and creeping to high lvl's cuz he makes little army.Well much of them dont like his play style but i do.

[Steaven.q.Urkel]

eee jbga mozda necu moc doc na cw jer mi dolazi bratic da mi reinstalira windows mozda stignem ali najvijerovatnije ne pa sry

[Tito]

Nisi mogao izabrati losije mesto da napises ovo :)

[Kominterna]

Nisi mogao izabrati losije mesto da napises ovo :)

Da :)

[Scoob_is_back]

Did anyone of you saw the way bos]angry plays?!
He is imba Ud player on this server. But i cant understand how can he with just one strat play vs every race and pawn them all.
He plays fiend strat with fast tech and than his army is something like this:
triple heroes, 2 destro, 2 abos,5 fiends, and two statues.
Also i saw that he uses only one group hotkey for units, he has everything under 1 and also he doesnt control those two statues he just puts them to follow lich al the time. His apm is almost never higher than 150 (its not important but under 150 is little low for so good player isnt it ? )
I really like his play style when i started playing here i copied his strat. But this is so wierd...especially that thing only one group...
Dont think that I judge him or smth i am just curious.
Prime i think you said that he learned you to play with UD, do you also play his strat or smth else?

How do you others hotkey your units? (just units no buildings)


well kisiu and prime teached me how to play with ud kisiu send me about 27/26 replay but prime sent alot ^^ and when i tried to play vs kisiu he beated me with all races :/ like if i am a sheep :laugh:

for me kisiu is best ud player in this sever then tito

about the hotkeys : heros/fiends#1
Destros#2
ambobo#3
Statues#4

and guyz best strat vs elf = garg :rolf:

[Kominterna]

and guyz best strat vs elf = garg :rolf:

look, I make 8 dryads to counter gargs mid game, but as my dryads dies I am not making them again.
I play late game only with bears and giants. DH + Panda with orbs can pwn gargs so easily.
But late game there is no need to focus gargs at all bcz they need like 5 minutes to kill one giant.
I rather kill land units late game... gargs sucks late game... Only DH can kill 10 of them alone so...
NE don't need dryads late game...only for destros...

[pRiMe]

Well tito is inactive so he isnt in shape to be good player like he was i saw lot of titos replays and he impressed me.

[mestar]

omg komi is still nab :)

GARGS FOREVER vs ELF !!!!!!!!

If you dont make dryads UD will own you like little ship on pills :)
He can do only air and what will you do than?
About mountain giant, you saw jovic play like that and now you also trying?!
mountain giant cant be kill, but you dont need to kill him at all just go pass him and kill everything else. About his ability that you must attack him its joke for all normal players cuz we spam alot :)
Elf without dryads is dead elf, except if he goes archers + talons.

[Kominterna]

omg komi is still nab :)

GARGS FOREVER vs ELF !!!!!!!!

If you dont make dryads UD will own you like little ship on pills :)
He can do only air and what will you do than?
About mountain giant, you saw jovic play like that and now you also trying?!
mountain giant cant be kill, but you dont need to kill him at all just go pass him and kill everything else. About his ability that you must attack him its joke for all normal players cuz we spam alot :)
Elf without dryads is dead elf, except if he goes archers + talons.

I never said ''without'' dryads...

I said that when the time comes you won't need them anymore...
only few, not mass.

What is the point of upgrading into tr3 if you wont make any tr3 units=??

[mad4y]

That's why my favourite elf player is [MYM]Moon he is crazy vs undeads.I saw his replays vs Bet.Fov he play only with Dh and Panda wth archers and dryads and pawned Fov who have ghouls,gargs and abos.He get in 2 heroes teleportaion to teleport his driads and 2 scrolls of healing to heal his driads and creep a lot to get his heroes fast big levels.On dh everytime he get orb of venom anyway gg Fov try everything but can't beat him.

[Brian_Molko]

man i sawd game vs unstopp and 4nloveyall and unstopp was ud and love was NE.unstop maked like 5-6 cataps and 4-5 abos with cloud, and loveyall maked dryads and bears .... man its total ownage...mestar try do do that without the gargz ,i think it can work perfecktly vs NE

[pRiMe]

With gargs it is better and easier vs NE.

[Kominterna]

With gargs it is better and easier vs NE.

Only with very very good harassment, but 3 protectors and gg for gargs.
Late game UD is doomed with gargs...
When UD and NE meet somewhere on the map and fight starts...
If UD has DK + few ghouls, Lich + mass gargs, few abos, few statues, NE with bears and giants can kill all UD's land units in few seconds...
And what will UD then do with gargs=??

You are killing my wisps in the base with all your gargs.
I attack your base in the same moment.
How will you defend yourself since your army is separated=?

I'm not saying that gargs sucks, But skill is required for smth like that.
Btw gargs are tr2 units. tr3 > tr2

Just imagine DH lvl 5 and Panda lvl 5 =>> FTW

[pRiMe]

Just focus gargs vs dryads then bears and then just coil,nova,coil,nova on heros and ghouls abos vs ground but play whatever u want.

[Kominterna]

Just focus gargs vs dryads then bears and then just coil,nova,coil,nova on heros and ghouls abos vs ground but play whatever u want.

Well I am making giants and bears. UD land units are doomed :D

Well gargs are good but you cannot play whole game with them.



Yea I was just wondering, how to beat human who's playing with 3 heroes (AM, MK, Paladin) 8 mortars, 10 gryphons and 10 copters=???

except of stop him to make that...

Is it possible to make 2x AoD, 20 hipogryphs and 20 archers with DH and Panda with orbs and 2x scroll of healing and scroll of protection.
after you kill air units, mount archers on hipos and kill remaining land units :)
Yes I am ****ting... :)


I posted this in general strategy thread but no reply so far. help...

[pRiMe]

Ofc u will play whole game....first harass his wisps and then just kill dryads and ofcourse dont let his heros get big lvl.

[mestar]

komi...komi...komi bas si KOMA ;)

Lol we will play and than you will show me how you beat all my land army..
The thing is that game will be over before i even make land army (abos) and what if i go for frost suprise? really that thing with giant is just silly and about those 8 dryads?! Ud has army of 12 and more gargs+one statue+scrolls+triple hero. so gg in that case.
the only problem with elf is that they have 3 expos when you have only one but ofcorse if you scout alot than he doesnt:)
Anyway cant wait till i back in Zg so you can own me :)


and btw about wisp harras its not so important as you think, only one protector is enough to stop ud from harras.
But important thing is to stop panda from geting high level...


Merged 2 post(s) from 1 thread(s) in 1 forum(s).

[Nessie]

Tell me how can human beat undead ?

I hate bugs: Orc<Elf , Und< Elf, Hu<Und, Elf<Hu , Und<Orc

Expo. triple heroes 2 knights and 10 000 Helicopters= gg :)
It works trust me :)

I don't play that way vs ud...

You go fast tech (tier 3), expo, 3 heroes (am, mk, paladin), some knight, gryphins, and tanks, trust me, gotta work ;)

here you go a replay as example...

[pRiMe]

komi...komi...komi bas si KOMA ;)

Lol we will play and than you will show me how you beat all my land army..
The thing is that game will be over before i even make land army (abos) and what if i go for frost suprise? really that thing with giant is just silly and about those 8 dryads?! Ud has army of 12 and more gargs+one statue+scrolls+triple hero. so gg in that case.
the only problem with elf is that they have 3 expos when you have only one but ofcorse if you scout alot than he doesnt:)
Anyway cant wait till i back in Zg so you can own me :)


and btw about wisp harras its not so important as you think, only one protector is enough to stop ud from harras.
But important thing is to stop panda from geting high level...


Merged 2 post(s) from 1 thread(s) in 1 forum(s).

Evo imbica xD cokim te :D

[rapeMe]

Nessie ko si ti uopste?

[Kominterna]

Nessie ko si ti uopste?

pmfgosu

[rapeMe]

znao sam da je neki nub . :P

[FLaMeSeeKeR]

The best strategy is to dont let your enemy Own You first !

[Kominterna]

The best strategy is to dont let your enemy Own You first !

Yea indeed. But its not so easy :)
At least not for me :D

[FLaMeSeeKeR]

Yea indeed. But its not so easy :)
At least not for me :D
In solo if You control at least half map its good :D wisps are imba scouts :D
****ING MAP-HACKERS CAN CONTROLL ALL MAP WITHOUT WISPS TT ... NC

[Kominterna]

In solo if You control at least half map its good :D wisps are imba scouts :D

I think that I want to play a solo game vs you :)

Are you afraid??

I need someone to teach me smth xD

[FLaMeSeeKeR]

I think that I want to play a solo game vs you :)

Are you afraid??

I need someone to teach me smth xD
I hate elf mirror but np :D lets play more or lesss 17:00 server time :D

[Kominterna]

I hate elf mirror but np :D lets play more or lesss 17:00 server time :D

No need to rush :)
And no need to play NE mirror. Just don't play with humans :)
I'm afraid that I wont be able to play today :)
Going fishing with my father :):)
But I'll whisp you when I see you :D

[FLaMeSeeKeR]

No need to rush :)
And no need to play NE mirror. Just don't play with humans :)
I'm afraid that I wont be able to play today :)
Going fishing with my father :):)
But I'll whisp you when I see you :D
Whisp me tomorow or day after tomorow :) and lets play for fun and for FRODO :D

[Brian_Molko]

I think that I want to play a solo game vs you :)

Are you afraid??

I need someone to teach me smth xD
omg i obs .... btw komi vs plac 3;2 so watch urself Patrick :)

[mestar]

what Komi pawning ?!
I allways new my student will be gosu ;)

[Kominterna]

omg i obs .... btw komi vs plac 3;2 so watch urself Patrick :)

You wont convince me to play on EI anymore. :)
It is really hard vs UD on that map.

OMG I just love TR and TM, so much imba gosu items.
My heroes depends on that items.

I will give you piece of my ass if we play on that maps :)

what Komi pawning ?!
I allways new my student will be gosu ;)

It is always, not allways nab :):)
LoL, the point is that you taught me to play UD,
But I'm not UD player anymore :D
I play only NE now :)
And I have much to learn :D
But I learn much from you...thx :)
I love you nab :D

[FLaMeSeeKeR]

Rush strategy 2 x ud vs whatever :D
ghouls from 4 crypts 2 x crypt lord and scrabs = ownage on small map :)

[Kominterna]

Rush strategy 2 x ud vs whatever :D
ghouls from 4 crypts 2 x crypt lord and scrabs = ownage on small map :)

Yea, I saw that on Moonglade map :)

[pRiMe]

U mean scarabs not scrabs xD

[Dragan]

I once saw a replay on TR undead beating elf with CL+Acos... T_T
And the elf was solid player, not total noob... After i watched the replay i went on xpam and i was making conversation with some1 about that replay and i findout that the guy that played the ud was on the channel..lol... Told me that he beated his friend and it was not set-up... :)

[Nessie]

I once saw a replay on TR undead beating elf with CL+Acos... T_T
And the elf was solid player, not total noob... After i watched the replay i went on xpam and i was making conversation with some1 about that replay and i findout that the guy that played the ud was on the channel..lol... Told me that he beated his friend and it was not set-up... :)

yes, i watched the similar replay yesterday (dl-ed in funny replays sections),it was TM map, ud vs elf... cl + mass acos, imba surrounding omfg i laughed like hell :rolf: and elf wasn't so good player, but he knewed the basic's :D

[pRiMe]

lol acos ftw ! xD

[Kominterna]

LcF posted one of his replays where he played with CL and accos. vs NE on EI.
I just spent 20 minutes in search for it, and I didn't find it, I feel like a fool...

[Nessie]

LcF posted one of his replays where he played with CL and accos. vs NE on EI.
I just spent 20 minutes in search for it, and I didn't find it, I feel like a fool...

poor komi, i feel sorry for him :p

[Kominterna]

Just stick with the strats in this thread...

[Nessie]

whateva' :p

[FLaMeSeeKeR]

U mean scarabs not scrabs xD
So be :cool:

[pRiMe]

Or better to say beetles :P

[Kominterna]

What difference does it make??

[pRiMe]

it does,scarabs are weak little bugs but beetles are strong bugs ^^...i ate too much mushroom sups :/ damn vesko !

[Brian_Molko]

i wont to do tower rush with ud ... i know its possible , but hardly can be done , right ?

[pRiMe]

Ofc i've been tr-ed few times by ud and every time i won on the end xD

[Kominterna]

There are replays by LcF tower rushing orc with CL and fiends :D

[mestar]

Oo komi talking good thiings about me ;)
yea it can be done, both things.

massing acos is good vs elf and orc you just make two necros in start and you mass acos, and also go tower rush him, very funny ****.
About TR orcs with CL and fiends, well i won that way vs raiderghosttt so i think it wouldnt be so hard vs some weaker player..
Also you can do same **** but instead of fiends you take ghouls, some sorounds and gg

[Kominterna]

Oo komi talking good thiings about me ;)
yea it can be done, both things.

massing acos is good vs elf and orc you just make two necros in start and you mass acos, and also go tower rush him, very funny ****.
About TR orcs with CL and fiends, well i won that way vs raiderghosttt so i think it wouldnt be so hard vs some weaker player..
Also you can do same **** but instead of fiends you take ghouls, some sorounds and gg

You must not forget to buy that artifact to make blight in front of enemy base.
Star fighting, meanwhile make blight and start making zigurats, and upgrade...
doesn't matter if you made ghouls or fiends.
Yes, you can make it vs weaker player. I managed to do tr with DK and fiends :)
You can also go tr someone after you upgrade into tr2. Take FL from tavern and go do tr :)

[Tito]

TR is usually made against orc. You make 4 fiends, you get rod, the both ghouls, rod of necromancy and cl's beetles. You make 1+ aco, buy the land and go to his base. Place the land out of his burrow's range, and bulid ziggurats. He can't beat your army :)

[Brian_Molko]

hm ... i'll try

[FLaMeSeeKeR]

Tito is right ,but this strategy vs some good players is not so easy :)
I know from my own exp :D

[Brian_Molko]

Tito is right ,but this strategy vs some good players is not so easy :)
I know from my own exp :D
u have no exp nabzor :)

[pRiMe]

haha patrick owned :D

[FLaMeSeeKeR]

u have no exp nabzor :)

:eek:
Fine :D but i try :P

[Brian_Molko]

:eek:
Fine :D but i try :P
jokeing .... u skill is bigger than mine in any case ;D

[FLaMeSeeKeR]

I know its known by all ;] !but this strategy gives me lot of fun :D enjoy
2x or 3x Shadow hunter and rush with wards :) and better try this in at xD

[Tito]

But don't forget to make 2x rax and mass grunts ;)

[mestar]

zasto sam ja noob?
nemrem dobit nijednog orca elfa niti dobrog humana :)
sto da radim?

[Brian_Molko]

zasto sam ja noob?
nemrem dobit nijednog orca elfa niti dobrog humana :)
sto da radim?
igraj protiv andedova :DDDDD

[mestar]

Mamu im jebem humansku..

Ovako human prokleto imba svaki unit, vs orca znamo da je human imba
e a sad gledajte vs UD.
1. footman>ghoul,defend>fiend
2. DK coil can miss, Paladins holy cant miss
3. Fast expo with towers is unstopable (vs good HU)
4. When HU has 3 towers he can just lose every single footman trying to kill yours acolytes, he dont need them anymore
5. when he has expo with mass towers he can do many things: triple hero mass helli and 2 knights 2 gryphons thats enough, or he can go mass tanks and than its gg also.
5. He has militia...
6. Only human can win with apm <100 actually no.10535 who has 160-6 wins i think has apm 90
7. MAMU VAM JEBEM BLIZZARD KOJI KURAC CEKAS, sta ne vidis da HUMAN playeri (tod,insomnia) koji nisu ni blizu skilovani ko ostali sky-iznimka
dobivaju bez problema jednog Lucija ili fova. PREJADNO !!!!!!!!

odlucio sam da ako igram vs HU PG i vidim da nesto zna..odma alt qq

[rapeMe]

pa da ... to je jadno ... ali u svemu ima balansa ... nisu HU imba .. sve je to ravnomerno

[Kominterna]

1. Problem:
I think that I encountered a problem while I'm playing vs Orcs...

There is one really stupid orc strat.
I am NE and I make hero (Usually DH) + archers, 2. hero (usually BM),
than I am making dryads + bears...

Stupid orc is making BM + grunts, SH + raiders
Later he is making only catas + kodos + spirit breakers FFS.

So if I have more than 2 dryads, they will be raped by catas...
If I have bears, he will ''eat'' them with kodos...
If I have talons, and If I try to cast cyclone on his kodos in order to
prevent them from devouring my bears, he will dispell with breakers.
And I dont have enough talons to cyclone all of his kodos and breakers.

Did I mention how easily catas are killing talons ??
:LoL:

This is most irritating on smaller maps (EI, TS) FFS...

Lets say that I have bears + dryads, so when There is battle, what units should I focus the most???

I am doomed If I am making 2x AoL ffs



2. Problem:
One more...
Orc is going fast tech. he has only BM and he is harassing my base.
in tr2 he is making wyverns FFS.

SO how to play ??

Should I go fast tech too, when I see him upgrading early ??

Should I mass units ??

FTW???

[rapeMe]

DH + BM + hunts + talons + dryads .. later bears .. simple
ovako nekako .. sa malo boljim microm ..

[Kominterna]

DH + BM + hunts + talons + dryads .. later bears .. simple
ovako nekako .. sa malo boljim microm ..

Ae pogledati cu to kad dođem doma :)

A šta je sa ovim drugim, kad orcnab ide na fast tech ?

[rapeMe]

pa moras da ga smaras stalno ... znaci harash sa huntersicama ... da mu ne das da dise .. bukvalno .. onda uzmes DH-u orb i uzmes Pandu = fire breath gg
pokazacu ti to kad dodjes :D kiss

[Kominterna]

kiss

my ass ;PP

ok nab, cokim te :P

[Tito]

Archers + talons.

You can't survive till tr3 for orb and panda on lvl 1 is useless.

[rapeMe]

tito napisao sam : "onda" sto se misli kasnije ... ali za harash sa DH-om i huntersicama moras odma.

[mestar]

2 gosua debatiraju :)
a mene niko ne pita, trebas ic mass destro i gg :)

[Tito]

Huntress against orc? Mabey if you are making dryad/talon combo, but archers are much better anyway.

And I don't know where you can harras with few hunts... You will kill his burrows? Have you seen how are burrows killing hunts? So, you won't be able to kill 3 burrows.



Komi. Make 2AoW, mass archers from the begining, leave 5-6 at gome to guard the base from the bm, creep with the others. When you enter in tr2, make 2AoW(ancient of wind ). Make mass talons and keep making archers. Scout him, if he goes windraiders, make bm/fl as second hero, if he goes grunt/raiders/sw/catas... go tinker, alchemist or whoever hero who can be used for front line... Buy 3-4 scrolls of healing, a potion of unvirtability and healing ( because that army without heroes is nothing ) and attack.

[rapeMe]

Tito pls you take Orcs i will go Nelfs .. plss ... why must be standard always.. that's so boring ffs.. try something different ... you will see that hunts are also imba vs orcs,you just need to play smart. kiss

[Brian_Molko]

i agree with mestar. mass destro (and few fiends) and gg :D

[pRiMe]

I agree with tito archers ownz!I use them for vs all races not only vs orc...
@placebo. veruj mi mass wyrms i gulovi i videces kako ownujes gosua kao sto je mestar :D



(moram te i ja prcati malo mestar :D )

[Tito]

Okey, lets play. I wanna see that huntress power.

Even I will tell you what I will bulid. There you go, BM, fast upgrade, 2 beiestaries, mass windraiders. Killing your wisps and the gold mine. 4 towers home from the begining.

[mestar]

4 towers home ?!?!
which orc would do that in normal game ?!

[rapeMe]

oksy tito. come tonight on server .. i will be there as always. kiss

[Tito]

Hah


Why you no one had gatts say it some time ago when I was active playing : )

A man is not playing for a while and you think you can just get over him... Its like driving bikes, you can never forget it.

We will play when I will be free ;)

[pRiMe]

:) tito even the best players couldn't defeat u then about us i don't wanna even talk xD but really vs orcs archers and mass talons imba but ofc with archers u need better micro...

[rapeMe]

Prime ja ne kazem da su archerke lose vs orca ..naprotiv ja bas mislim da su imba ali malo je sve to postalo dosadno.
volim da experimentisem .. i moram priznati dobijao sam dobre orcove tom tact sa hunts..
naravno da je Tito bolji od mene ali samo hocu da dokazem da hunts nisu za bacanje.
kiss

[pRiMe]

Lol nista ja nisam rekao za tebe ti si za mene dobar igrac jako samo sam se slozio sa titom :D hajaoo danas kad je bio hell kod mene tj juce :P igrao sa elf solo vs nekog naba huma i isao kao archers ono kao pro brate xD i nije mogao da ga sabije ovaj mass foots sa defend i posle mass breakers mortars i knights i 3 heroja i isavijao ga je ja se vristim a on samo sto nije skocio kroz prozor od muke xD

[rapeMe]

:D koji ste vi loodaci j/k hahaha

[FLaMeSeeKeR]

HIHI ,bul****s -.- smart orc always pawn archers with talons xD
Fs + Tc 5 grunts 2 wolfs Tc wave Fs lightning walkers catas gg

[rapeMe]

yeap .. that is exactly what im saying..
and btw you forgot 3-4 peons with towers... or instead of TC would be better if Orc take FL .. imba

[pRiMe]

Hmm then elf brings few wisps and no mana + no wolves and lava pwns ^^ but anyway just cyclone heroes always and on the beginning overmicro him with archers and gg no re :) tito moram te pitati brate si stvarno bio u mym klanu?Oo i bio gosu 50+ lvl na @north-u?Kako sam ja cuo...

[rapeMe]

eh Prime Crime lako je to reci .. da , da ... :(
stvarno Tito ?

[mestar]

tito mym, lolz ?!
cmon guys are you stupid beliveing that tito was in mym is just stupid...
he is normal kid who is just too "full" of himself...

[pRiMe]

That was long ago even spiritmoon loveall and nox couldn't beat him together then xD

[Tito]

48 lvl, not 50+, xD

But back then, it was pretty hard to get that lvl, because everyone was playing ladder, instead of CG games now.




Catas are NOT imba against talons. First you cyclone his army, then you make them birds, forgot the name of the skill : ), then you go to his catas and surround with regular form again. Fairy fire his catas and focus them. They won't have range to hit and will die in no time. Then the orc have lost.

[rapeMe]

tito acc on north ? :D pls

[Tito]

lol, that was year and 6 months ago. Its deleted surely : )

I had stats like.. 500:220, wasn't bad back then : ]

[pRiMe]

Gosu !When he came back he was pwning all ^^ and then few guys called him insolent gosu :P

[rapeMe]

pa koji je bio acc? mozda znam ..
..omfg imba stats .. bio si MYM member ?

[Tito]

Da, da PION : )

[pRiMe]

Peon ali treba i stici do peona u mym-u :)

[Tito]

There is only one elf strat orc doesn't have chances to win. Kotg mass hunts, expand... and then hypo + archers, so faken imba!

[Milac]

dobar je tito igrac bio, nije ni sada los valjda... al da je bio peon u mym to bas ne pusim

sjecam se da je bila neka svada na forumu, dosao je tito i rekao da je neznam, 44 lvl sa 75% ud na northu, i onda je nery trazio cijeli ladder i nije nasao takvog igraca

al ti tito dokazi drugacije ak je istina to sto kazes :D

[pRiMe]

Ja mu verujem nema razloga zasto da laze posle toliko vremena...A i sto ne bi bio u mym klanu ako je igrao test game i pokazao im skilove a video sam njegove replaye nije mogao ni gosufromxpam da ga dobije ako se secas ko je on...

[Tito]

dobar je tito igrac bio, nije ni sada los valjda... al da je bio peon u mym to bas ne pusim

sjecam se da je bila neka svada na forumu, dosao je tito i rekao da je neznam, 44 lvl sa 75% ud na northu, i onda je nery trazio cijeli ladder i nije nasao takvog igraca

al ti tito dokazi drugacije ak je istina to sto kazes :D
Nery sux... I had 75% with ud, but I didn't play ud on pg, at with toka and old friends from north : )

That's why nery didn't find it : )

[Kominterna]

It is much harder to harass orc base with hunts coz they are unarmored units and take bonus dmg from orc burrows.
But on the other hand, hunts are harder to kill with BM and grunts.

Or I don't know how to use hunts ??

When I am playing on small maps I go archeres coz orcs tryed tr me few times and it is really hard to defend with hunts coz they are bit late and towers pwns them.


But this is what I am wondering...
Orc summons BM and he goes to harass me...meanwhile he is creeping low hp creeps with his grunts.
So I summon a hero (DH) and what should I do ??
If I come to his base with hero and units (no matter if hunts or archers) and try to harass my army gets pwned by his burrows :(
If I ''try'' to creep he is killing my wisps :(

It is lame situation when I am in orc base trying to kill peons and burrow and orc is in my base in the same time trying to kill my wisps.

Is it good to take BM and FL for my heroes ???

[mestar]

puno prica ovaj tito a nikakvi dokazi ;)
evo ja vjerujem kad vidim...
Prvo slika: da se vidi da je >200 cm visina, dovoljno jak da dize kolko ono ne sejcam se vise bila neka imba tezina na bencu sta se hvalio..
Zgodan jer kako se prica sve cure trce za njim..pa da vidimo mi tog lepotana xD
drugo: SS of his acc on North
trece: replay vs nekog imba frajera sa northa >40 lvl kojeg je pawno...
i ak se sjetim jos nes..

:)
evo al ja jos uvijek tvrdim da je Tito mali debeljko koji igra ping pong a ne odbojku xxaxaxaxax

btw. nije upitno da je Tito imba igrac al MyM je pro klan, pare...
i da ak ces sad rec da nemas replay, ss ili sta vec ne barem postaj svoju sliku jer to moras imat..

Ma da uostalom boli mene kurac za sve to xD

[rapeMe]

lepo je reko da je igrao pre god i po(L) tako da sigurno nema ni rep ni ss ..
jedino svoja slika :D
mali debeljko ... hahaha ta ti je dobra

[pRiMe]

Ma koji ti je mestar jbt zaboravio je covek da igra a ne da ima ss ili replay xD a on je stvarno bio dobro igra ali ne kao sto bi mi sad rekli hmm wow gosu raiderghosttt ili onaj gnojj-mrtvii nego bukvalno pro je bio igrac davao je [bos]nox-u pobede na solo turnirima zato sto ga je baske zamolio inace bi ga pojeo samo tako...ali me zanima kako je odjednom usao u mym jel si pitao nekog od mym gosua da igras vs njih da dokazes da si dobar ili sta?

[Kominterna]

I asked smth above, so at least be polite to look at my post :(:(:(:P

[mestar]

komi gle najvaznije ti je da bolje mikras od njega, ubijes vise njegovih jednica nego sto on ubije tvojih i na kraju da ti njemu unistis bazu prije nego on tebi tog se drzi i bit ces gosu :)

dobro ajde i ja ga serem puno :)
nisam nikad vidio tita kako igra pa ak je stvarno tak dobar bio valjda ima koji replay omg pa svako sacuva neki 100 %,
i htio bi vidjet par njegovih UD replaya da naucim nes.

Aj sad daj sliku da te vidimo i ti isto prime..
neam na kog drkat vise komi mi je dosadio a ovi ostali nisu moj tip xaxaxaxa :D


merged, use edit plz.

[Kominterna]

komi gle najvaznije ti je da bolje mikras od njega, ubijes vise njegovih jednica nego sto on ubije tvojih i na kraju da ti njemu unistis bazu prije nego on tebi tog se drzi i bit ces gosu :)

Bravo pameti moja :P

[Tito]

Me pRo DancEr!! doN't meSs wiTh mE Or ju DaJ riLi fAsT!!!

What kind of ss are you asking about ? : )

In that time... you really think was I thinking that after 1,5 years after I stop playing, some noob will come and ask me for confirmation if I am that man? : )

I've reinstaled/instaled w3 100+ times till then, so I don't think any replay is saved... Search the best replay section, you may find some replay long time ago, but you will have to reinstal w3 to watch it.


Komi... Make kotg for first hero ( because u sux and u can't micro archers and wisps : ) )... Make 2 aows bulid mass hunts. If he harras you with the bm, go at the tree of life with kotg, root him there ... he won't be able to kill you that way. After you got 3-4-5-6 hunts, find where he creeps and kill his grunts ( root and focus ), do that few times, then harras his base. If he bulid the beiestary ( the buliding for raiders, kodos, forgot the name ), kill it. In mean time make 11 hunts and go to upgrade, making another tree of life for expand. Harras with those army, orc has no chances beating you. After one raider has come, rood and focus him, then back to his grunts. Keep harasing and keep your hunts on 11 ( if some die, make another one in no time ). Then watch his playing. If he goes mass catas ( will probably do it ), make ancient of wind, start buliding archers and hypographs. Upgrade the ability to carry archers, make hypograph archers. ( in meantime your expand should be done ). Attack, with the birds forus the catas, don't stand with the hunts when catas are alive, just move durring the field, if you fight you will lose them all. There is a big posibility of tp. Then focus catas with hunts too. If he doesn't tp, after you kill his catas you can fight without being scared of losing, because when orc goes mass catas he probably doesn't have anything against air ( except SH, who does not make massive damage ). You've won.

[Kominterna]

Thx Potato, I will try this :P
Sounds good :P

[Tito]

If you don't know how to play... better abuse ;)

[mestar]

ok so i have some questions too..
tito can you plz tell me how did you play vs all races with UD when you were top form?
and dont tell me to go on strategies thread coz i just want your main strats...
and details if you have time..
and btw who the **** is nina? sister ? :) just kidding (guys should i go for stand up comedy instead of FER ?!

[Tito]

Don't have time now, as you can see I have a quest ;) ( she punched me in my back when I wrote " ;) " ) =))

[Kominterna]

Tito start playing on XPam :)
We need your guidance. I'm serious.

[rapeMe]

Tito join nVp ffs ! potato

[Nessie]

@Tito your account name on north where you were lvl 40+ and in mym clan? doesnt matters if it's deleted...

[Kominterna]

Closed from now on.
You can discuss strategies and post strategies requests in ''Post your replays !!'' thread.

Thx for participating here.