Cw tactics

[REplayER]

Za sentinel mozemo ovako:
*Crystal Maiden + Tauren (gore) Cristalys ide na meku a tauren na
basilius.
*Silencer solo mid
*Rasta i Vengeful spirit (dole) Rasta meka, vengeful basilius.

Za scourge moze vise taktika:
*Pugna + Akasha (gore)
*Viper solo mid
*Levithian + Lich (dole) Lich meka, Levi vanguard
a mozemo i venomancer solo mid a bloodseker umesto licha ili nekog drugog.


Ako imate neke predloge - feel free to post them :D

[Gelu]

taktika je nebitna ako skil nedostaje !

[pLavsHa]

Rep a sto lepo ne odete na thread nekih drugih klanowa i skidate njihowe CW taktike.. Sto da se mucis kad neko drugi moze to umesto tebe? :D:D:D

[REplayER]

Pa nije to fora nube...
Fora je da sam smislis nesto sam da kreiras a ne da kopirs nekog..

[pLavsHa]

Jbt pa ne mora da se kopira nego vidis kako ko igra pa onda dodas nesto svoje nesto izmenis i tako.. Nego da vidis koji heroji se najvise koriste i naprawis counter za swakog i pwnage onda... tz tz tz :D

[Iocaine]

apsh Treant Protector.

[pLavsHa]

rep ajde postuj ovde taktiku neku posto si uber pro da vidimo kako 300 igraju.. kao sto rekoh hocemo jean cw da vas proucimo.. mada nece biti potrebe :D:D

[REplayER]

e imas u drugom threadu idi skini pa pogledaj :)

[_Spartan_]

Ej decki ne ostavajte ovaj thread prazan -.-

[REplayER]

nema odavanja taktika pre cw sa sdm ^^

[_Spartan_]

ok np ;)

[Aka.mkd_300]

ja cu niv da kazem nasu taktiku :D

[imaginary]

:E
Tactics hmm..interestin
Will do will do
Lolz

[_Spartan_]

Yeah... but until we finish the cw with sdm, we wont talk :)

[imaginary]

I said ill post today some stuff about tactics,and judgin from our two cw tries yesterday i think work is needed,a lot.
Few general observations:
1) We start bad into the game,did so in both cws.In second our early game was hell,so it would be lost anyway even if rep wouldnt disc.
In first we were turnin it around cause opponents lvl was worst than uGt.
So we all have to be more carefull in early game,dont risk too much and care,just farm-deny get lvls and go few ganks in every opportunity.
2) I cant believe ur playin without chick shared,thats almost insane.The soloer has to buy chick from the beginnin and share it to all,some clans buy and share more than one chicks but thats not needed one is enough for us.
3) Wards are needed too,from early on.And i really mean,from early on.U see our opponents bought 4-6 wards up till 16 min,while we had none at that time.First should buy the soloer and put one at each river bank,or if he prefers(its on his own judgement) put one on the mid lane where he is in front of enemy tower,so that he wont have fog of war there.
After he buys wards,all rest will have to buy too on their turn,and put ofc in the woods or in the side roads at mid.
When wards are over,buy again,all over from the start the soloer,then the rest..all buy equal times.
4) We gotta try play with ganks,especially the top pair as u have it,maiden and venge,is ideal for gankin some.
5) Buy boots on chicken early so that u get a speed advantage over ur opponents,it may sound weird but believe me on 6 and ulties,a little speed advantage can help much on either kill or escape.Buy tangos all again on chick,try not to return back to fountain durin early game unless absolutely needed.Also,buy scrolls,try to carry on everytime,it can save lifes.

Now,about the team combo..the sentinel one that we only managed to play is good,its ok.Oldschool(we were playin it in ds a year ago) but it can still work generally.Its only problem is that it depends too much on the AOE ulties,if they fail for whatever reason,combo is weak and we die one by one.So needs teamwork,and GOOD communication-reflexes.With practise,we will make it,like we made it in ds and won 4 straight cws.
I suggest we keep it as it is for now,in heroes-pairs and items.
Oh about items,since it has 3 AOE all of these heroes(maiden enigma and shaker) should get dagger,ALL.Shaker makes arcane+dagger,maiden or silencer make meka along with enigma,silencer make midas if he wants and then euls-guinsoo,maiden make bkb after dagger,same can shaker,venge can go lothars or more dmg.Enigma can do necro book.
Basilus should have maiden on top lane and shaker on bot,as we did(i think).

Scourge combo wont talk yet,as we didnt even play it.In time..

My last suggestion on sentinel combo is to replace a couple heroes with rhasta and juggi bottom lane.They rape,especially if against melee(levi-sand-butch such).Out could go maiden and enigma,so in this case we would pair shaker with venge(will be good) up or bot,silencer stays solo mid,and ofc rhasta with juggi together bot or top.
Anyway,that i suggest as a backup combo,we can keep the one u have already for now as main..
Just arrange some games to try out stuff,maybe not the whole combo but practise at least those lane pairs,so we can get in a good lvl of understandin,the clan mates that will be usually playin in the cws.

Thats all,thnx for readin sorry for huge post,i had to say these things :tiphat:
Hope u understand me :)

[_Spartan_]

Yeah i totally agree with your suggestions ..
the mistakes we did yesterday.... awful...
We'll fix it.. ok.. and we try the down lane shadowshaman/yurnero..
Perfect combo for pwn..
as you said crystal/venge should gank.. yeah i totally agree...
not jsut all game holding line...
about the boots.. yeah.. maybe a little speed..
but as we can see.. magics wont help a lot if we play against scourge(pugna) with its ward...
Yes we must arrange some games so we can try it...
rep for you ;)

[Nennad]

this is nice,and btw i saw your cw,most of heroes you dont play as you should example - venge is farming like she will carry late game instead of ganging
example 2 - no1 do last hits,autocreep most of game and deny only when no allied creeps some1 remember to deny one creep...
about wards,that should all buy vengefull she goes boots 3xbracers and mass wards,ofc buy some sentry to destroy enemie wards so you can gang...

[imaginary]

Thnx but we can handle
And any cws u watched are older,anyway they were not bad against [shot] for example it was very well played imo.

Btw somethin more,rep u didnt really do good in second game either,before u disc,u had 0-5..thats very bad start for silencer,yeh maybe u got ganked but we were callin miss.No offence pal,i know u can play great silencer i saw u with [shot],thats why i was only surprised yesterday.
I can try silencer too,just try n see how it works out,i have played solo silencer in a couple GR cws as well as in many prv games.Ill be fine )
We'll just try that too allright,afterall i believe u can have better teamwork on side because u know guys(our teammates playstyle) more than me.
EDIT: And holy i couldnt believe u,honestly..if u read this,i dont understand how u managed to have only a meka and a circlet after 30 minutes of game(not even boots!),and use ulti only once-twice at most(stll,out of time/place) ??

[REplayER]

Nice point imaginary.Btw yesterday i was bad in start i died 3 times cuz of my ****in wireless keyboard and moues batteries was low, i didnt wanted to complain ^^ but nvm later i fixed them but still was bad.And honestly yesterday combo up was poor played 2.Well Holy hadnt played long time ago..spartan_fighter wasnt here... and aka.mkd where was bracers? in shop? :)

Since new 6.45 version fixed the Treant:
* Lowered Overgrowth mana cost from 200/250/300 to 150/175/200
* Fixed Overgrowth to work on units in fog
* Vastly increased Eyes in the Forest cast range
* Improved Living Armor a bit
We could try treant(4 bracers,boots and preservance later Refresher) instead of shaker cuz we need imba his imba ulti and good tanker.
And about yurnero and rhasta that's good combo but i think pro clans can easily counter this(just my opinion dunno :P).Mby Enigma + Crystal maiden up,solo Silencer( chicken on start,observers and mass tangos fast HoM then euls and so on),Treant down and Rasta.

Let me see what u think about this ^^

[imaginary]

K can try,though i generally dont like treant,we can always try np.

[REplayER]

Next cw is on Firday 18h server time we play against PWN clan.
We can try Treant or any other tactic som1 is proposing =)

And about Scourge: How about Warlock(Fatal bone instead of attributes) and SK up,akasha/lich solo mid ,Tidehunter (Vanguard) and Pugna (focus ward ofc) ?
Warlock casts fatal bones to Increase dmg between heroes then ulti ,Sk prepares his ulti and then tidehunter's ulti (lich ulti or akasha blink and Scream+ulti) and pugna's ward ...pff more imba then sent ^^

[Aka.mkd_300]

Holy was guilty..........that screwed us,he didnt played crystal so good

[REplayER]

It's not him only i sucked 2 :S

[Aka.mkd_300]

Yes but that screwed us up .. He didnt cast ulti all party:D

[Edit:REplayER] Engleski nube nemoj ja da ti prevodim :P

[_Spartan_]

And about yurnero and rhasta that's good combo but i think pro clans can easily counter this(just my opinion dunno :P).Mby Enigma + Crystal maiden up,solo Silencer( chicken on start,observers and mass tangos fast HoM then euls and so on),Treant down and Rasta.
I cant possibily agree with this...
Its non sense... Treant with rhasta? whats the point? Not comboed...
Just holding line thats all?
enigma/crystal.. maybe some point over there, but i dont think so
I cant agree.
i'll say my tactic: Yurnero/shadow shaman down line... Up (enigma maybe if you want) crystal/venge(mass gank).. mid silencer...
we can try all the ways - including tauren and chimera maybe and maybe treant if better in 6.45
We gotta take care of the scourge tactic too... -.-

[REplayER]

hmm i accept every1 oppinion iin this as i said we will try any tactic u want ofc.
And about treant + rasta pint is on lvl 6 2 ulties gg..later 4 ulties with refreshers..pure imba

[_Spartan_]

-.- replayer.. Dont talk about late game pwn... They can get us easily if they got better tactic down against those 2 nabbies hero i say they suck in combo..They even wont make it for a refresher..
We'll try tacticts, ofc we do..

[REplayER]

Just tryed in some pvt its sux with rasta and tree -.- if u farm first refresher well u will have to farm the best u can and it's rlly hard with tree atleast for me so that tactic falls down.So as for sent old ones stay mby small change rasta insteda of Venge but not sure about yurnero we can try him if som1 is able to dominate lane with him ^^

And how about my Scourge tact what u think?

[imaginary]

Ur scourge tactic is decent,we'll play it.
I take sand,basically always,u'll discover why in time;P
Can play necro great too,after these Lich and Warlock which i have been playin in GR pretty good(tay knows ^ ^)
The rest not for me )

Ill take juggi for sent too,been tryin that pair combo with rhasta in games on north with my friends,so i have it practised.
And i have ImbA build for juggi,if i manage to farm well it will be no prob ownin ;)
Friday ill be available that time for sure,so im in for the cw :tiphat:

[REplayER]

Imaginary:Yurnero (sent) and SK (Scourge)
Spartan_Fighter:Crystal Maiden(Sent) Tidehunter (scourge)
REplayER:Silencer(sent) can be Warlock (scourge) or som1 else
Aka.Spartan: Enigma(sent) Akasha(scourge)
Aka.Mkd_300: Rasta (sent) pugna (scourge)

Now declare if u dont like this heroes or what hero u want for scourge.

So Friday 18 (server) pwn clan and Sunday Vamp not sure about time they are arrangin still.

[_Spartan_]

Aka.mkd Rasta? aahhahahahahahaha... i can better play rhasta...
I suck little with enigma.. And what about scourge?

[REplayER]

Ok u can be rasta.Is he good with enigma?Choose most suitable scourge hero for urself (from list form page 2 or add some hero u think is good in scourge and u wanna play him)
So pugna levi and lich/akasha choose now? Or u want warlock if u dont like these so i can any other hero dont care :D just as it's not pugna dont like him . bleh :P

[_Spartan_]

levi more interesting for me :)
k i'll play levy..
btw aka.mkd sucks with nearly all heroes.. but its ok..
if you want him in cw team.. you give him the hero

[REplayER]

lol dunno what to say exept nice pwn :D

[imaginary]

btw aka.mkd sucks with nearly all heroes.. but its ok..
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


too much love :D

[REplayER]

They are rl friends like me and Spartan_Figther so we like pwns eachother :P

[_Spartan_]

Yes we are rl friends..
But he is so suxzor.. n/c

[imaginary]

I know u are HAHA i asked him yesterday and he told me ;)
Kekekek

[_Spartan_]

lol.. what is so funny ? :D
i dont like that kekeke so much :)



oh and yeah
Now playing: Within Temptation - Mother earth.

[REplayER]

Post that somewhere else this is for tactics :P

[_Spartan_]

erm
She rules until the end of time
She gives and she take
She rules until the end of time
She goes her own way

[REplayER]

Ok nubas tmrw 15 pm (server time) cw with pwn !
-Me,Imaginary,Spartan_fighter,Aka.Spartan_300 and Aka.Mkd_300 playin this one.If an1 of u cant play post :P

And sunday 18 pm (server time) cw witw Vamp since kew says it cant be reorganised it must be in sunday :dry: !
Since Mkd and Spartan goin Montenegro (hf noobas :D)
Me,imaginary,Spartan_Fighter,Pro_Fighter and Bloodarm are probably playin this one :P

So if an1 cant play post or if an1 wanna play from othres.. nthg u cant if u dont know :P

[_Spartan_]

Tomorrow 16 pm time great :D for me ofc

[.....]

more tactics-
1)first of all kick nzv from clan
2)heroes 5v5 for -aplm
-roftollen (refresher-mass disable :)
-in 10 sec even a little kid can pwn anyone so i recommend mass auras
- darkranger :) trueshot aura
- troll endurance aura
- vengie - command aura
the last one should be mirana or luna. if u need more auras take luna but if u need mirana's moonlight shadow to prepare mass killing then take mirana... nothing more to add :)

[imaginary]

2 words are enough:

NO WAY

[.....]

ali dobro plavsha kaze uopce ne tribamo smisljat neke taktike jer originalnost ne daje pobjedu...samo pogledas par pro clan wars replaya, vidis koji je dobio i ukrades winnerovu taktiku :)

[REplayER]

Mass auras huh? :rolf:

[_Spartan_]

Ne tresi gluposti ...

[.....]

pa dobro mislio sam smislit nesto originalno...da ne budu uvjek mass aoe (crix akasha leshrac...)

[Aka.mkd_300]

kad ste noobsi idi kradite tugi taktike........

[Nennad]

if u play treant,u need silencer >.<

[.....]

silencer is imba ^^ e btw preporucam silencera ofc jer ce enemiji ic 100% na akashu , crixa nedajboze i ta sranja sta se zanimaju magijama a last word mi je najdraza aura...uklapa se u ovaj moj originalni uradak jer ima auru :)

[imaginary]

When u talk about tactics in here do it in english.
Im a clan member too,and i gotta understand what is discussed in order to participate.

[.....]

im clan memeber too :)
translation-
1st post on this page-by-.....-plavsha is right that we dont need to make our own tactics ... we can simply take someone other's, just need to watch some pro cw replays and steal winner's tactic :)
2nd -by-replayer-mass auras huh :rolf:
3rd- by-spartan-dont speak ****ism
4th BY ME OFC- i thought make something oroginal im bored of mass aoe always (crix akasha...)
5th by aka.mkd... cuz ur all noobs go steal other's tactics
6th-nennad u understand i hope
7th mine-silencer - imba me recommend sily cuz enemies will get akasha crix and that ****s that like magics and last word is my favourite aura...it fits in my original suggestion cuz it is aura :)

[imaginary]

Well,
Disc sux
But our teamwork sux the same
And the amazin thing is we worked out very well together in early game.
But blew it in mid and late
LoL
Really weird things..
Once we suck in early game and improve later,now we pwn in early and fall back later..incredible
Pff donno what u did afterall,but truth is i sucked quite enough as well,at least for my usual sk play,i was NaBBin too much.
At least we had chick shared,we did buy some wards too,though need more and FROM ALL.
And we did gank too,me in particular,like i love doin;P
Anyway..improved slightly some things,but messed up too much in ulties teamwork,this is the hardest part to fix..and can only be done through practise with each other and good communication in-game.
Again,donno what u did afterall,but this cw could(and should) have been won way easy and way early,we were 13-0 or somethin at start..

EDIT: OMG cant believe u won,REPLAY REPLAY!!!
And replayer update the info in clan wars thread too,apart from replay ;)
Oh ye and TRIFUN is good,make him GRUNT if he isnt already

[.....]

u could win even with me :) lol

[REplayER]

Nah trifun is my nabby brother :P
He played like guest and sometimes he play again when we need him :P

[_Spartan_]

First of all gj.. Yeah at least we pawned them..
Early game - owning.. I thought you were going to finish them..
But later (late game) you ****ing sucked...
You letted them BUILD UP!! Tide hunter sucked (hidding behind creeps, he better hide behind fountain)... Warlock played his own part as pugna..
Sand king was ok, but without help of tide useless..
shadowfiend was total owniage and i think you need a thanks to him
Gj for nenad/ trifun whatever.
With wards was ok..
I expected more fast finisha and i expected more.
Lucky us we won...

[Nennad]

yes i just played to help,dont expect me as regular player cuz i am proud member of sdm clan :) ^^
but i will gladly help against some other pro clans >.<

And anyway i think it would be much better if noname played instead of ivan(aka.mkd) he is far better player(only my opinion ofc)
and if spartan_fighter tanked a bit

[imaginary]

Nah trifun is my nabby brother :P
He played like guest and sometimes he play again when we need him :P
Pff he's good,and he's in the clan i see,so he should be playin regularly as long as he can ofc,he's good.I can judge well,its not just about the kills number,i saw his general play ;)

Ok guys after playin the sent combo 1-2 times and the scourge once,i can now give u a more complete view of my ideas:
So my later suggestion is..
For sentinel we go two combos,one let it be exactly as we have it,venge+maiden up,silencer mid,shaker+enigma bot.
Second combo for sent,i suggest venge up with either shaker or maiden,silencer mid,and bottom juggi with rhasta.Silencer will be gettin chick always.
For scourge now.
I see sand with warlock went good,it can go even better,i suggest we keep this.So up sand with warlock.
Mid solo nevermore or Lich,will get chick in any case.
And bottom we take out levi(not because of spartan_fighter,i see other heroes as better options) and replace him with either akasha or veno,ofc paired with pugna.
As mid i say nevermore or lich,it depends,both can go good nevermore is more for late and generally for killin,while lich is more for support kills ulti,especially on 6.45 is stronger with aghanims so good choice too.
For bot i say akasha or veno cause they both got slows which will work well with pugna spells and chasin for early kills,and they both have good aoe dmg ulties which will work VERY WELL with fatal bonds from warlock.

[imaginary]

i just wanna say u all stink i pwned rep i own all now in 300 clan haha im so big and strong and im ****ing bored BLABLA
K i guess we will have a cw afterall,i think its kinda "needed".

[_Spartan_]

K i guess we will have a cw afterall,i think its kinda "needed". Agreed. So they'll shush.

[REplayER]

Yes soon is cw with them.When this naps return from vacation :)

About Spartan_fighter (i talkde with him 10 mins ago) he says that it wasn't his day.Because we won i forgave him :D

Nvm about the tactic.Yes i agree with..but if we dont take levi we could take some better dealer on mid.And what about Dazzle down with Pugna?Imba heal + slow + imba ulti ^^ we can Venom / Akasha as u said.Pretty good combo.But then we could take Viper for mid More dmg deals + slow + more hp (taking slow and attributes on start).Ok now ur suggestion ^^

[Nennad]

dazzle Oo
he will die in 3 sec

[REplayER]

Nah i am imba with him ^^ imba farmer (radiance about 19 mins or less :P )
Fast radaince then Hot then hex then skadi if it's not gg by that time cuirass and satanic and imba dazzle.And with his ulti on lvl 3 it's impossible for them to break somthg plus no gold loose imba.

[imaginary]

Aha..its kinda weird,but like we say,can try )

My combo for scourge with veno-akasha benefits much along with sand to the fatal bonds of warlock,its similar to the combo we had in GR(only that we didnt have sand there) and it rapes,in a cw where i was warlock i killed 4 in a single teamgank just cause of fatal bonds,team casted ulties,i had fatal bonds on them,receive more n more dmg and died to me ))
Dazzle for scourge is somethin like omni for sent,a clear support mechanism,although if u can really farm him that radi skadi etc he can become a kind of a killer/tank too:E
Oh yes now that i said omni,if we are ever to include omni in our sent combo,we should add troll as well.Its teh pwnage,a carefully farmed troll with repel on ;)

[REplayER]

Yea troll is imba with repel ^^ just they will counter it with medusa so it's better silencer more dmg.We made mistake when they took omni we should take medusa instead of Tidehunter :s and Nevermore would have better items.
But we can try ur tactic,yea venom is imba combined with pugna or mby Bloodseeker.I know its sounds noobish but with veno's ulti bs will chase them if they dont die from ulti + they cant farm bellow 40% and disable some mage with first.
And i was tinking about tryin some new heroes in cw how about them?

[Aka.mkd_300]

mby i'm noob but i pwn REP :D

[imaginary]

It was bloodseeker we had in GR combo.
Bah go warlock - sand top,
Nevermore - Viper mid,
Pugna with akasha/veno bot

And do try dazzle for bot,as well as Lich which will add to the fatal bonds with chain.

[VengefulSpammer]

http://forums.dota-allstars.com/index.php?showtopic=150767
here is link about jungling.

[pLavsHa]

try this .....

apsh and host pick techie ...

im drunk so this is most imba tact i can say atm :D

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

ja sam za ap taktiku
trol naix riki ursa blood mortred i onda kad razmislim skontam da losiji "combo" nisam mogao da smislim xD

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

naix solo down

[[DjoxY]]

Dobra ti je taktika al za dotu 6v6 ;)

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

Hero Games Wins Losses Win% Avg Kills Avg Deaths Avg Creepkills Avg Denies
Queen of Pain 424 225 199 53.1 10.1 5.6 171 17.1
Vengeful Spirit 392 179 213 45.7 4.6 8.4 68.1 10.2
Sand King 385 213 172 55.3 6.2 7.5 117.3 8.6
Tormented Soul 350 182 168 52 6.5 8 150.7 12
Lich 316 186 130 58.9 7 7.2 77.5 9.7
Twin Head Dragon 296 137 159 46.3 4.8 7.7 133.3 10.6
Silencer 292 139 153 47.6 6.7 6.7 161.4 20.2
Slayer 292 164 128 56.2 9.7 8.1 111.2 7.7
Oblivion 291 155 136 53.3 4.9 8.2 139.3 10.9
Lord of Olympia 287 152 135 53 8.4 7 98.8 7.4
Shadow Fiend 260 135 125 51.9 8.6 6.3 218.4 25
Netherdrake 254 128 126 50.4 8 7 153 20.4
Tinker 225 105 120 46.7 7.8 7.4 134.5 12
Beastmaster 220 108 112 49.1 5.2 7.1 131.4 5.1
Venomancer 213 120 93 56.3 5.3 7.6 89 10.4
Warlock 213 123 90 57.7 6.1 6.5 136.8 20
Prophet 209 100 109 47.8 5.4 6.7 175.3 10.9
Earthshaker 206 107 99 51.9 4.8 7.7 106.9 7
Rogueknight 205 99 106 48.3 6.5 6.6 111 12.4
Priestess of the Moon 196 99 97 50.5 8 5.7 156.7 12.3
Crystal Maiden 191 88 103 46.1 6.8 8.3 92.3 9.3
Necrolyte 189 99 90 52.4 7.5 7.4 142.6 11.7
Shadow Shaman 189 97 92 51.3 5.7 7.9 125.3 8.3
Morphling 167 91 76 54.5 8 5.6 166.4 13
Bane Elemental 159 78 81 49.1 5.5 7.5 82.6 12.7
Stone Giant 155 68 87 43.9 6.8 7.1 143 8.5
Lone Druid 149 64 85 43 6.7 5.6 155.1 13.4
Holy Knight 143 72 71 50.3 5.1 6.4 62 4.1
Spectre 143 68 75 47.6 8.5 6.8 129.2 8.6
Lightning Revenant 137 72 65 52.6 6.9 7.4 213.2 14.9
Death Prophet 134 58 76 43.3 5.8 7.9 141.8 8.8
Skeleton King 130 65 65 50 6.6 5.3 147.1 8.4
Butcher 129 56 73 43.4 5.5 8 89.6 6.6
Bristleback 128 66 62 51.6 6.8 5.2 169 9
Pandaren Brewmaster 126 67 59 53.2 7 6 150.9 9.1
Enchantress 126 62 64 49.2 7.1 5.3 93 12.4
Tidehunter 121 54 67 44.6 4.6 7 86.8 5.1
Lord of Avernus 115 58 57 50.4 5 5.9 132.5 6.1
Omniknight 115 59 56 51.3 2.8 5.1 94 8.5
Enigma 113 61 52 54 3.7 9.6 93.6 10.1
Doom Bringer 108 46 62 42.6 6.9 7.5 143.3 9.2
Obsidian Destroyer 103 43 60 41.7 6.9 7.5 133.4 16.3
Unknown 103 46 57 44.7 4.9 6.9 112.7 5.6
Witch Doctor 102 48 54 47.1 5.6 7.5 86.2 8.4
Ogre Magi 101 49 52 48.5 5 7.2 70.8 5.1
Necrolic 96 45 51 46.9 7.4 6.2 200.1 12.9
Nerubian Assassin 95 43 52 45.3 6.6 8.5 70.4 6.4
Faceless Void 94 46 48 48.9 7.6 5.4 143.7 8.5
Drow Ranger 92 49 43 53.3 5.2 7.1 135.8 9
Juggernaut 87 41 46 47.1 5.9 8.3 133 5.2
Magnataur 85 49 36 57.6 4.4 6.6 156.1 4.4
Centaur Warchief 83 35 48 42.2 5.8 6.3 125.6 10.3
Dwarven Sniper 83 32 51 38.6 6.3 6.4 126.7 13.8
Soul Keeper 82 36 46 43.9 6 5.9 185.3 9.9
Anti-Mage 79 43 36 54.4 8.4 5.5 139.7 10.7
Chaos Knight 77 37 40 48.1 7 5.6 121.4 10
Nerubian Weaver 77 36 41 46.8 8.7 5.6 170.4 9.3
Gorgon 74 41 33 55.4 4.4 5.3 180.6 18.1
Dragon Knight 72 26 46 36.1 5.6 5.2 140.6 7.4
Troll Warlord 69 39 30 56.5 6.1 7.2 148.5 11.1
Bloodseeker 65 32 33 49.2 9.1 8.2 117.1 10.7
Demon Witch 65 35 30 53.8 6.7 7.7 76.1 6.2
Keeper of the Light 61 27 34 44.3 2.9 6.1 173.2 3.5
Stealth Assassin 59 29 30 49.2 10.8 6.2 114.1 8.1
Axe 57 30 27 52.6 5.8 7.4 101.5 3.4
Naga Siren 55 28 27 50.9 4.1 6.5 81.8 4.3
Phantom Lancer 53 22 31 41.5 8.4 4.8 136.9 4.9
Bounty Hunter 49 17 32 34.7 8.2 6.6 87.3 3.7
Phantom Assassin 48 27 21 56.3 6.3 6.3 91.7 6.3
Goblin Alchemist 47 17 30 36.2 4.9 7.1 182.3 5.6
Bone Fletcher 47 21 26 44.7 6.7 4.3 131.9 7.2
Lycanthrope 47 21 26 44.7 5.3 6.2 102.6 3.9
Ursa Warrior 47 26 21 55.3 7 6.5 106.5 5
Moon Rider 47 25 22 53.2 7.7 7.4 126 6.4
Treant Protector 46 30 16 65.2 3.4 5.4 86.3 5.5
Shadow Priest 45 24 21 53.3 4.6 8.2 147.4 11.6
45 23 22 51.1 0 0 0 0
Spiritbreaker 44 20 24 45.5 4.7 8.8 88.9 4.7
Broodmother 40 15 25 37.5 6.5 7.6 132.2 4.9
Goblin Techies 37 22 15 59.5 6.6 9.3 110 2.9
Night Stalker 34 15 19 44.1 7.6 6 82.6 3
Slithereen Guard 33 16 17 48.5 3.6 6.2 97.3 6.7
Lifestealer 30 19 11 63.3 6.8 6.1 92.4 5.7
Kobold Geomancer 14 6 8 42.9 9.3 4.7 137.4 1.3

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

omg i koji combo po tome ispada najaci? a i opet nije sve u statistici;/
pogledaj vreme kad sam slao poruku pa ce ti biti sve jasno zassto 6 :D

[[DjoxY]]

lol brate pa ti si pio...:D:D:D
ako ako mora ponekad da se pije samo ne valja ako pijes ko Plavsha non-stop pa se juris sa pandurima po gradu i pravis grupnjak
pwned :D

[pLavsHa]

brate ja pravim grupnjak brate ali sa pandurkama .... a ti sa pendrecima u
chmaru :)


shta fali tome ako pijesh non stop ... ? celicim jetru :D

[[DjoxY]]

Ne,ne sam si reko da se juris sa pandurima nemoj sad ovo ono...

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

jebali vas panduri sve u cmar i u picku:D

[pLavsHa]

mene u picku bolje ..... djoxy ti ces chmar ?

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

neam picku

[pLavsHa]

ce ti nadjemo neku :D groblje neko :D

[[DjoxY]]

Ahahahahhaa e ovo je posteno pwn gj gj gj :D:D:D:D:D
rofl rofl rofl:clap: :rolf: :laugh: :happy2: =)) Jesi kurwa ali imas respekt za ovo...

[_Spartan_]

Jaoo kakve spamere...
Jer vidite topic? Cw tacticts..

[Aka.mkd_300]

Ej Daj Izbrisi Gi Post's Kade Sto Sse Karaat Izbrisi Go I Ovaj Pls
Ovde Samo Za Cw Takticts A Ne Za POLICAJCI

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

rofl :rofl: looool
@akamkd300 ja ne pricham o policajcima :) ja samo spamam

[pLavsHa]

bre Aka.mkd_300 pa pricamo za cw bre ... imamo jedan cw uskoro sa clan mUp ... Ministarstvo Unutrasnjih Poslova ... pa ih zovemo policajci ... zato smo i poceli na tu temu .... omg :)

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

uzece naixa za scourge

[pLavsHa]

hmm cemo mi onda Ezalora ? mislim da bi on bio dobar za 1v1 solo lane vs naix

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

lol moze:D

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

moze.
dakle mid cemo ezalora jer ce oni naixa.

[pLavsHa]

ok onda je dogovoreno ..... middle epic battle .... naix vs ezalor ...

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

a sta ako i m dodje jos neko pored naixa?

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

nece niko doch. mislit ce da ezallor moze solo mid ali nema shanse vs naixa

[[DjoxY]]

lol ali oni imaju pendrek purge,morate biti pazljivi :D:D:D

[pLavsHa]

ffs nube pa ezaloru nemas sta da purgujes mi necmo da uzimamo ulti ... nego samo zalecim manu i iluminate a on ako ce da purguje onu nus pojavu posle chakra magic ako onda ffs :D

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

sa naixom trechu da imash vishe creepova ubijenih jer je lasthit/deny totalno dosadno radit i statse

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

ezalor rules:D a i naix je imba za cwove lol

[pLavsHa]

ne kao techie...... :)

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

techie n venge :)

[Artanthos]

EEe I don't understand ya, but I see you are talking about naix and ezalor. And since it's cw tactics I can tell you, that Ezalor is good only in fast push tactic (with pugna, krob, leshrack), and naix just simply sux. Way better is spectre, if you want to have some "farm, farm, farm, and kill all hero". And if you want to take him, and go with him to forrest at first lvl's and farm for victory, better is tb.

Greetings. ;)

[pLavsHa]

EEe I don't understand ya, but I see you are talking about naix and ezalor. And since it's cw tactics I can tell you, that Ezalor is good only in fast push tactic (with pugna, krob, leshrack), and naix just simply sux. Way better is spectre, if you want to have some "farm, farm, farm, and kill all hero". And if you want to take him, and go with him to forrest at first lvl's and farm for victory, better is tb.

Greetings. ;)

Tay u suck cuz we dont talk tact we just spam ... greetings ... :D

how about techie btw? :D

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

it is techies not techie :)

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

EEe I don't understand ya, but I see you are talking about naix and ezalor. And since it's cw tactics I can tell you, that Ezalor is good only in fast push tactic (with pugna, krob, leshrack), and naix just simply sux. Way better is spectre, if you want to have some "farm, farm, farm, and kill all hero". And if you want to take him, and go with him to forrest at first lvl's and farm for victory, better is tb.

Greetings. ;)

we just spaming:D imba naxi xD

[pLavsHa]

omg i said that .... :(

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

omg i said that .... :(

i just do copy/paste...:D

[pLavsHa]

i just do copy/paste... ..... me 2 ....

[Aka.mkd_300]

i just do copy/paste ........ ...... . me 3 ...... daj prestanite so spam

[Artanthos]

You guys are sick. ;)

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

:)

[pLavsHa]

i just do copy/paste ........ ...... . me 3 ...... daj prestanite so spam

Nunca .... Never .... Nikad ....


@ Tay ... We are sick ? GOOD MORNIN COLUMBO :D

[_Spartan_]

>_< erm... tactis only

[REplayER]

zomg 50 posts deleted in this thread ... ouu yeah power ! ^^

[Aka.mkd_300]

to rep :P bravo odlican posao

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

zomg 50 posts deleted in this thread ... ouu yeah power ! ^^

feel the power!!! ^^
ouuuuuuuuu yeeeahhhhhhhhh :)

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

ma naix je zakon ja nekidan sa spektracom igrao na ggc nisam vidio da igram vs naixa do 10 levela jer nisam gledao koga uzimaju i mlatio -ma a kad sam ga vidio znao sam da ce ga ovi pustit da se nabudzi i da je gotovo... a tako je i bilo... imali smo 15 killova vise ali naix se buuuuudzio pa buuuuudzio i uleti lik sa 400 dmg i 4k hp i kritikalom i bashom i bkbom i slowom i maimom i lifestealom i ti mislis da to mozes istuc...nema shanse...nikad vise necu radijancu pa hot sa spektrom odsada ide difuzal prvo pa dalje po zelji :)

[Nennad]

koji si ti nub jbt

[[DjoxY]]

Provalio si da je noob?gj

[mama_me_tuce]

za sentinele bi trebao davion. malo nabudzavanja do lvl 16 i imate imbalanced tanka.
vengeful ne bi trebao biti zapostavljen takodjer.

[pLavsHa]

saftajte mi ga.... :D

dzalafajte mi ga ... :D

zgoropandi ga .... :D

TECHIES > ALL !!

[mama_me_tuce]

sentinels

okay, my tactic for them should be:
-up Davion and Zeus(Davion makes 3x bracers, power threads and then Radiance, those items should be gotten till 16 level; Zeus makes Arcane then bot&blink)
-mid solo Silencer(not need explatation-dps machine, last word and global silence
-down Vengeful & Techies. Vengeful uses stun on level 1 and techies makes 1st blood(he gets chicken and boots immediately), then when techies is dead, venge will solo. when techies is alive he will solo. Techies makes some bracers, bot, blink guinsoo. Vengeful gets 3xbracer and boots, then wards only.

scourge

here is tactic for them:
-Nevermore should solo mid. Hope I dont need to explain why.
-Spectre(Radiance) and Warlock(refresher) or maybe even Void instead of spectre(sk makes ulti then blinks in, krobelus's ghosts are not stopped by chronosphere)
-crixalis and krobelus(arcane) or maybe EVEN doom over crixy[he can spam with sandstorm to prevent enemies from farming if they are melee](refresher, when he get it , he can make battle 3v5 ... this hurts. he gets refresher asap then specter. doom shouldnt be chosen if you have void....)
gl hf vs sdm n ndl!
so there are 2 possible tactics:
-nevermore(or viper), spectre/void. crixalis, warlock, krobelus
-nevermore(or viper), doom, lich(who just harass enemies and deny to let lucy farm) and spectre and warlock.

[_Spartan_]

mama_me_tuca to ti je imba tactic..
respect :D :D

[pLavsHa]

/hail @ mama_me_tuce :D

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

tactis sucks

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

tactis?

[pLavsHa]

taKTIKE... :D tj TAKTIKA ... ZEX NAB :D

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

nepismen

[_Spartan_]

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[DotA-ap5v5blon]

jeli dozvoljeno u ss partijama pickati techiesa?

[Aka.mkd_300]

zasto da nije dozvoleno!

[pLavsHa]

mada nece da bude neka imba partija.... :)

techie i ezalor own sve... ;)

[Aka.mkd_300]

techie i nije toliko jak heroj ......... jedan gem i resava sve !! :)

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

techie je nevjerovatno jak heroj , uopshte ne shvachate koliko je techies imbalanced, istina je da se mine mogu vidit, ali ako ih techies stavi usred borbe to je gg, a i vengeful + techies su josh najbolja taktika

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

goblin je los za cwove mozda je dobar na pocetku ali posle....dobar je u obicnim partijama kada nabovi ne kupuju wardove ali u cwovima ...

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

6 sekundi stun je imbalanced za bilo koju dota partiju.

[Aka.mkd_300]

da ali samo stunn asve drugo je bezvredno u late game!!!!

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

kad stun onda stavis mine pod njih i odmah ih detonate i to je 1200 dmg oops....

[Aka.mkd_300]

da ali mine zemaju 600 dmg !!!! i plus goblin umira za 2 sec u late game !

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

ako naleti na pro tim ispod sec kao sto i pugna pda za ispod sec...

[_Spartan_]

slazem se sa exe i aka.mkd.. no i so dota5v5ap...
no goblin je imba stvarno...AOE stun imba 5 sec + imba mines..
to treba..
kad je 5vs5 na mid, goblin je support imba.. gg

[pLavsHa]

levi baci ulti i techie dagger i stavi stun ... pa stavi jos jednu... pa onda baca ulti mine ... i prvu... imba... samo ako se dobro koristi... i plus sa njim imas hex... koji uvek moze da se imba koristi...

[Aka.mkd_300]

plavsha je napravio clip od dote :) da ali u late game mine nista np ne zamaju :)

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

levi je scourge nube :)

[_Spartan_]

ccc....
pa ne mora da znaci

[Aka.mkd_300]

vo late game goblin je nisto a na pocetok je zakon zatoa cut !!!

[_Spartan_]

ahahaha..
late game mozda ko support..
zasto da ne ccc..

[pLavsHa]

pa techie je samo support samo to i moze da bude... nece valjda da bude tank ili dmg dealer?: D

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

ja mislim da treba da tankuje...

[pLavsHa]

sa 850 hp kada naleti na mortred sa dva divina... imba tank... ;D

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

koce uzet morta u cw -.-

[pLavsHa]

ja... ^^

[_Spartan_]

Goblin dmg dealer imba
Tank moze vise..

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

sta bre goblin uzima plusice i plusice i da vidis xD

[Gelu]

ovi tredovi su pointless .....

[_Spartan_]

mozda xD

[pLavsHa]

ofc da jesu gelu... sta mislish shta mi radimo? mislis da stvarno pricamo o tactici za CW... haahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha noob..... go go go ...:)

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

i sta kazete na skill build sa plusevima goblinu a pravi mu se 2 bashera buterfly assault xD

[Aka.mkd_300]

lol onda ce biti imba feeder :D

[pLavsHa]

techie sa 2 bashera pt butter assault i 2nd spell pravi perma bash :D

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

pa da to je i cilj xDako silencer ne baci silence bar je jedan trajno disable xD

[pLavsHa]

ma dok silence ide on attack i pravi bash a cim stane on minu i nastavlja da puca... i menja tako... 1v1 imba :D

[_Spartan_]

Bash ftw :)

[pLavsHa]

neneen bash je ok... perma bash imba.. :D

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

Goblin Rulz Xd

[Aka.mkd_300]

lol zamislavam plavsha sa goblin pravi noob :D

[pLavsHa]

lol... ako alone master postavi replay na mom forumu videces kako techie pwna.. mada je bio pub ali sa techie sam stvarno imba.. xD

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

da da pogotovo dok su noge u lavoru xD

[pLavsHa]

moja zadnja.. 8)

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

da gadjas kamenom za struganje peta xD?

[pLavsHa]

moja zadnja 8)

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

moja predzadnja 8)))

[pLavsHa]

ako je tvoja predzadnja to znaci da je onda moja zadnja 8)

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

dobro.
moja predzadnja moja zadnja 8)

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

nemoze 2 iste magije...a da mozda je kao kod nevermora prva pa moze i po 3 puta u zavisnosti od rangea xD

[pLavsHa]

ok onda ti exe imas pred prezadnju krava predzadnju a ja zadnju.. ko ce prvu ?

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

neko mora malo pre pre pre predzadnje xD

[pLavsHa]

hm... to je za ivana nuba onda.... on voli kada je pre pre pre predzadnje 8)

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

a mogu i ja pre pre pre predzadnje ako ce neko drugi pre predzadnje xD

[pLavsHa]

ali znas ona prva sto ide pre prezdanje cija je zadnja pre pre predzanja od druge predzadnje... sa tetkine strane ;D

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

ne znam xD

[pLavsHa]

uff ni ja :D

[_Spartan_]

ja znam

[pLavsHa]

ajde kazi da widimo..

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

reci bobo nesto xD

[pLavsHa]

boba umro.... cekamo da se ozivi... posto je 3 lvl nece da mu treba mnogo.. :)

jbg kad je noob rushuje roshana ;D

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

da bas XD

[pLavsHa]

makar da je kupio 6 branch pa da ga pwna ali ovako.. :S

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

a nebi mogao ni onako xD

[_Spartan_]

Rosh > all
Plavsha>rosh

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

executor>>plavsha

[_Spartan_]

spartan>exe

[pLavsHa]

exe<all

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

ffs trebao si reci spartan <<all a ne ja :(

[[DjoxY]]

pa onda je to pwn :D

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

:(

[[DjoxY]]

xD

[_Spartan_]

xD

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

:(
:(

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

lol koje imba taktike n/c

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

ofc

[[DjoxY]]

yeap

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

sentinel:
-ofc gore
-yeap shuma
-xD solo mid
-:( dole
-:(
:( samo oda po mapi bezveze i ganga

[[DjoxY]]

Scourge:
-lol solo mid
-I like pie dole u laneu sa Ajvar FTW!
-Gore solo xD
-FFS solo suma
=gg tnx
cow i tvoja je dobra ti si me inspirisao na ovu...:D

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

a sta sarma neigra prvu postavu? a bre nisi normalan najceg igraca si izostavio...

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

on zna samo sa naixom

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

sarma je imba ****ing gosu holy **** abadon xD

[[DjoxY]]

Da sarma je kao abaddon ima shield ali od kupusa :D

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

ja preferiram trecu amgiju tj od vinovog lisca xD

[_Spartan_]

pljeskavice su imba...
zaboravili ste ih

[[DjoxY]]

Ajvar FTW!

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

ah samo ti cenis pljeskavice ja mislim da su noobovske xD

[_Spartan_]

heh... ne znas ulti od pljeskavice? ccc xD

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

da baca majonez na sve strane?:D

[_Spartan_]

i + kaskaval
imba dmg + slow i stun

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

aoe efekt?xD

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

to sa warlockom valjda.....

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

mi pricamo o pljeskavici bre nov heroj...

[_Spartan_]

AoE ofc :)
pa sta mislis ti..
imba su pljeskavice..
a ovoj pa warlock mesa xD

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

nisam video jel radi scepter?

[_Spartan_]

da

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

aha extra a sta dodaje xD

[_Spartan_]

9999999999999999 sec stun

[[DjoxY]]

uu imba je onda ako napravis refresher.

[_Spartan_]

Nece ti trebati xD

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

da znaci ide mu scepter pa refresher...a moze i encro da tuce za vreme stuna...

[_Spartan_]

~~

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

sta vi mislite sta je bolje?

[[DjoxY]]

ovo prvo xD

[Error.]

Evo ja prvi put otvorio ovaj thread i vidim samo spam... LOL . . . A ja mislio tactics

[[DjoxY]]

omg pa citaj taktike!!!

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

daj nemojte spam ajde neka tactica?
ja sam za solo mid naix xD
levo mortred i gondar desno alhemicar i goblin suma xD

[[DjoxY]]

sux

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

imas nesto protiv solo mid naix?:D

[Error.]

LOL zex brate igraj dote naucio si sada da spamujes i to si pro.... Zaboravices kako se igra !

[_Spartan_]

agreed :)

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

jbg vec sam zaboravio xD

[Error.]

Cek a kad si znao igrat ?

[DotA-ap5v5blon]

dobro pitanje...

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

1v1? neko od vas noobova?xD

[Error.]

Ocu ja ali obicnog w3-a iako sam retired !

[_Spartan_]

me 2

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

ja cu obicne dote xD

[_Spartan_]

loool :D

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

xD

[Error.]

Znaci da ne smijes?

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

smem al ne pg tu sam los :D

[_Spartan_]

hahaha pg me < all

[[NDL]eXeCuToR]

da isto xD

[_Spartan_]

al sad All>pg>me