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-eXtasY-
29th July 2006, 06:12 PM
This quistions may look little noobish but they are not so answer only if u are 100% sure.
1.I sow that some spell can dmg heroes in avatar how is that possible?
2.Is it S&Y really orb because lifesteal and scadi works with it?
3.Scadi is not orb for ranged heroes but it still cant work with desolator or lifesteal, is it only bug on animation or it really cant?
4.When i make masc of maddnes does it stuck with rampage on troll because there is only one icon on aura meny?
ALL THE BEST FROM ME !

devicem
29th July 2006, 06:19 PM
1. -> Not possible under avatar, but they can still cause the disable like Dismember from Butcher or Blach Hole from Enigma or Overgrowth from Rooftrellen and so on... ( in rare cases i might have noticed that also epicenter can slow under avatar but i'm not 100% sure )
2. -> S&Y works with Lifesteal because it has a chance of activating, meaning that when u do the maim only than lifesteal won't work....same for skadi.
3. -> It doesn't say it is an orb effect but it is..
4. -> Deffinately not, don't ever do mom on troll!

All the best from me2.

RockNation
29th July 2006, 06:24 PM
1. Web from slithice works in avatar and bash too.

devicem
29th July 2006, 06:31 PM
1. Web is not dmg causing spell and bash is not a spell at all it is a skill and it has to be melee!

-eXtasY-
29th July 2006, 07:09 PM
I got very good answers thank you. just one more thing that i forgot. Is it hero in avatar imune to goblin mines?

devicem
29th July 2006, 07:26 PM
Most certainly...

Satana
29th July 2006, 10:05 PM
1.no spell does they're damage if u are in avatar they just do theire secondary effect like black whole pulls u but doesnt damage u, dismember holds u but doesnt damage u, fiends grip holds but doesnt do the damage, etc...bash works on avatar cause its not a spell, like stun, the goblin mines do physical damage, the remote mines do magic damage
2.orb effects does not stack, s&y and lifesteal on hero...well....u will always lifesteal, u benefit from the movespeed bonus, u benefit from the attack speed bonus but u will never maim, never ever
3.skadi isnt an orb effect on ranged heroes and it works with another orb effect, if it's not. duh!!!!
4.frenzy doesn't stack with rampage
5.devicem u need to play more and experience some more...ur still nuba

devicem
29th July 2006, 10:56 PM
lol, ur nub! ;) maybe ur the 1 that needs to experience more... ^^

Xfire
30th July 2006, 12:07 AM
don't fight !!! both noobs k? ;)

Hughstor
30th July 2006, 12:13 AM
You're all noobs here.
Do not post false and dumb explanations. You could've atleast bothered to look at Malle's orb effect guide. Or ask some ****in questions in ''Dota Mechanics'' forum.

Here are the correct answers:

1)
Doom can damage thru avatar. Ensnare, overgrowth, Nether Strike(the initial damage isn't applied, but the damage from greater bash is), finger of death go thru avatar but don't deal damage. Avatared hero can be bashed, but not in the exact same moment he turned on avatar. Animation will then appear but it won't take any effect.
2)Maim DOES NOT work with lifesteal. However it works with EoS on ranged heroes. And it is an orb effects.
3)Skadi isn't an orb effect on ranged heroes, just a buff placer. Therefore it works with Lifesteal. It can stack with Maelstrom and SnY but two different effects can't take place in the same time. It doesn't work with desolator because it is an orb effect that places buff constantly. It isn't a percent chance.
4)Rampage and Berserk (MoM), can't work together because they are the same buffs.
And Troll doesn't need MoM.

So there; Questions answered.

devicem
30th July 2006, 12:23 AM
Closed. Ok Hugh, let it be that way. maybe you're right about this, but this doesn't contribute to the measurment of how big nub you are, it only contributes to the level of knowledge you have about DotA which doesn't mean that you are now better than every1 else owning this knowledge.

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