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Tito
04-01-2006, 13:01
replay

Glober
04-02-2006, 01:38
clear game for me

Ykc
04-02-2006, 02:22
hm so many ppl reported 2hard for mh. and he wasnt banned imo he is just pretty experianced and good player

Red-System
04-02-2006, 08:58
Clear Game !!

Blac[K]night
04-02-2006, 12:05
Clear game..

Metalix
04-02-2006, 13:44
imo this 2 hard might use mh , that's the reason many complain, but wether he keep closing/opening it during the game or he is very very experienced mh and doesn't show enough to be banned.......:wacko: :blink: :huh:

BLUE_SYSTEM
04-02-2006, 16:10
He used mh in this game in my opinion, it is to long to write when and why..., i must check other replays of him. Anyone have ?? it will be helpfull

ForgoTAboutMe
04-02-2006, 16:30
Hmm I think 2Hard use mh...

ShaQu
04-02-2006, 17:49
i'm 100 % sure he is use mh...
i agree ..this game its no clear ...

trol007
04-02-2006, 18:09
me idea 2hard2stop4you is mh

Palec
04-02-2006, 18:33
You know what? It's just another proof that on xpam are guys who consider themselves as an unbeatable. And when they lose the game, they start to search some excuses like: "Ne is imba", "you have mh", "it wasn't good map for me" or "My mum was in my room and I couldn't focus on the game". You are good player, 100-1 in undead is impressive, but realise one thing, YOU ARE NOT UNBEATABLE. This game is clear, I've watched it very carefully. Mb he's using mh, mb I use mh, who knows. But one thing I know for sure, in every game are suspicious moves, in your games, in gosus games, in noob games also. But in gosus games this suspicious moves are Skill/timing/map control, in our games skill mixed with luck, in noobs games noobyness which makes this games weird. He haven't show mh in this game and If he won't show it in the future you can't ban him. Plz don't suggest opinions of guys who want to ban people only because they beated them or just have higher level (level they will never get). I'm talking about comments above mine, comments like "I think 2hard uses mh..." or the better one " me idea 2hard2stop is mh", thats just pathetic and I'm certain they haven't even watched the replay.

Lukun[pl]
04-02-2006, 18:37
50% users on xpam use mh

Soul
04-02-2006, 19:21
I play whit this guy 3 or 4 time but i dont se any suspicious move when i watch replay but...........hmm.......i think he it's a smart mh-er ....... in this game it's or crazy luck or SOME LITTLE mh:D :wacko: . I watch rep 3 time......... i thinK 99% MH.

Metalix
04-02-2006, 19:43
You know what? It's just another proof that on xpam are guys who consider themselves as an unbeatable. And when they lose the game, they start to search some excuses like: "Ne is imba", "you have mh", "it wasn't good map for me" or "My mum was in my room and I couldn't focus on the game". You are good player, 100-1 in undead is impressive, but realise one thing, YOU ARE NOT UNBEATABLE. This game is clear, I've watched it very carefully. Mb he's using mh, mb I use mh, who knows. But one thing I know for sure, in every game are suspicious moves, in your games, in gosus games, in noob games also. But in gosus games this suspicious moves are Skill/timing/map control, in our games skill mixed with luck, in noobs games noobyness which makes this games weird. He haven't show mh in this game and If he won't show it in the future you can't ban him. Plz don't suggest opinions of guys who want to ban people only because they beated them or just have higher level (level they will never get). I'm talking about comments above mine, comments like "I think 2hard uses mh..." or the better one " me idea 2hard2stop is mh", thats just pathetic and I'm certain they haven't even watched the replay.

actually i didn't bother to watch this replay .
I just gave an explanation to the fact that he is reported many times...
Actually , you talk about gosus games with timing bla bla, he ain't a gosu , trust me.Most of his games are played here, i barely think that he learned gosu style on xpam...
btw 1000- 1 ?:D yes it's unbeateble, it's impossible with 1000 wins on that streak , to play with more than 20 people on ladder, the rest can't match u cuz ure streak is too high :D, so you're unbeateble :D

Flash
04-02-2006, 19:55
actually i didn't bother to watch this replay .
I just gave an explanation to the fact that he is reported many times...
Actually , you talk about gosus games with timing bla bla, he ain't a gosu , trust me.Most of his games are played here, i barely think that he learned gosu style on xpam...
btw 1000- 1 ?:D yes it's unbeateble, it's impossible with 1000 wins on that streak , to play with more than 20 people on ladder, the rest can't match u cuz ure streak is too high :D, so you're unbeateble :D

Why ppl from North are so disrespectful 4 xpam players :dry: . I read so many post when u r saying in the same way "nah he cant be good, it isnt rly skill, how he can be skilled, he play mostly on xpam, trust me he is noob!". And its not 1000-1 its 100-1 with ud

S4pPH1roN
04-02-2006, 20:25
You know what? It's just another proof that on xpam are guys who consider themselves as an unbeatable. And when they lose the game, they start to search some excuses like: "Ne is imba", "you have mh", "it wasn't good map for me" or "My mum was in my room and I couldn't focus on the game". You are good player, 100-1 in undead is impressive, but realise one thing, YOU ARE NOT UNBEATABLE. This game is clear, I've watched it very carefully. Mb he's using mh, mb I use mh, who knows. But one thing I know for sure, in every game are suspicious moves, in your games, in gosus games, in noob games also. But in gosus games this suspicious moves are Skill/timing/map control, in our games skill mixed with luck, in noobs games noobyness which makes this games weird. He haven't show mh in this game and If he won't show it in the future you can't ban him. Plz don't suggest opinions of guys who want to ban people only because they beated them or just have higher level (level they will never get). I'm talking about comments above mine, comments like "I think 2hard uses mh..." or the better one " me idea 2hard2stop is mh", thats just pathetic and I'm certain they haven't even watched the replay.

Ur the wise man - and i totally agree with u with all points ... this all is in my mind i just dunno how to compose it into such a nice sentences :laugh: :laugh:

-iG-
04-02-2006, 20:41
i view a replay and think 2hard2stop use mh... because him aways get arrested .expo:mellow:

Metalix
04-03-2006, 00:12
Why ppl from North are so disrespectful 4 xpam players :dry: . I read so many post when u r saying in the same way "nah he cant be good, it isnt rly skill, how he can be skilled, he play mostly on xpam, trust me he is noob!". And its not 1000-1 its 100-1 with ud

Firstly xpam skill is pretty low if you know what i mean.. if you are the best here you can't get better, and the best player hardly pass 40+ on northrend.I was northrend player on RoC, then since 1.14 i was xpam player, i could hardly win on northrend with the skill i got from xpam.... If you mass games here you don't get any skill , maybe experience...But the real skill you gain from other gateways... Oh , and about 1000-1 , i thought Palec is lampooning "100-1" , i tought he is talking that to general , i had no ideea that this guy really has 100-1 :D or whatever... srry my bad... and i was talkin about northrend 1000-1 :D=) that is imba

Tito
04-03-2006, 13:25
did u saw when he was looking for me with wisp ? he didnt even saw the creeps who were there ... how he could know where am i (he didnt knowed that i am undead ) ? watch replay again and see that ...:blink:

BLUE_SYSTEM
04-03-2006, 18:32
i saw it, and it was suspect move. Next hes way to your base... When u creeping up from ur base he go to ur base by up way, and when u creeping in down side, he go by down way. He never check ur exp, but when u make it in right he go directly there. After u make exp in down mine ane again he go there. B4 u make that expo he never go on that 2 creeps.

Tito
04-03-2006, 19:29
Firstly xpam skill is pretty low if you know what i mean.. if you are the best here you can't get better, and the best player hardly pass 40+ on northrend.I was northrend player on RoC, then since 1.14 i was xpam player, i could hardly win on northrend with the skill i got from xpam.... If you mass games here you don't get any skill , maybe experience...But the real skill you gain from other gateways... Oh , and about 1000-1 , i thought Palec is lampooning "100-1" , i tought he is talking that to general , i had no ideea that this guy really has 100-1 :D or whatever... srry my bad... and i was talkin about northrend 1000-1 :D=) that is imba my undead stats is 100 :0 not 100:1 :P:closed:

Medo
04-03-2006, 23:40
Well , l dont like make some problems to some one !! But
Cant u plz check when 2hard2stop4you attacked the fiend in tito base ?? He was attacking it with only boot and he didnt get afraid maybe tito give him a coil by DK and kill him !! why ?? Why ?? ok Cause he is smart maphacker !! Carefull one , he saw DK creeping down with Rod of skeletons , so he join the base so easy Cause he did sure that he cant kill him with only fiends attacking !! How l stay in UD base all this time and didnt get afraid of DK coil ?? Understand me ?

For Marshall , lf its 1000 : 1 , can u ask MadMax to delete this lose for him :D ?? he dont deserve it !

Jacayreonzzz
04-04-2006, 02:48
that was clear game (luck) i use lucky sometimes.. to know where the enemy got mine and got it... obviusly say is Mh but ppl is like that never play for Hf the say "hf" but never play for have fun they just finish telling you things to disturb
" i will report" " fu**ing mh" and other things, i found that really noob and 2hardtostop4you continue playing like that ;) we will encounter someday and play a GG (clear for me). "i dont speak english so don´t complain about errors.. =) ^^"

jxxx
04-04-2006, 04:32
1st point is ...... when 2hard2stop4u go to tito base DIRECTLY ...

and u ill tell me .... he go with wisp to explore where is he !!!!

look at this ss and u ill see what i mean .....

btw wisp didnt see enough ....... cuz tito was playing random ....... :/

mabey tito play with nf or human or orc ...... so any way wisp didnt see enough ......... !!!!!

jxxx
04-04-2006, 04:40
2nd point ....... when dh was stand out there ( as u ill see in the ss )

waiting untill dk ( i like to call him arther :D ) go to any where ( creeping )

and when he saw him out to creeping :wacko: ... he go attack :laugh: .....

here the ss ----->

jxxx
04-04-2006, 04:44
ohh :D i forgot another 2 poin't :p

3rd point ...... when he go creep jack tito ..... take alook .

mabey it's by chance :/ but it's 25% to be by chance :)

jxxx
04-04-2006, 04:49
4th point ..... omg :D ..... as u see in ss he go to tito exp ........ directly ..

he didnt explore with any thing .......

he go with all of his army ....... !!!

that's mean he was know there is mine there :blink:


i think that's enough ..... if u need more prof ...... just tell me :p

that's my opinon ..... only my opinon.... maybe i rite ... maybe im wrong !!! :)

Tito
04-04-2006, 14:19
the point is that he never scouted my base and with the demon go right to it ..:blink: :wacko:

BLUE_SYSTEM
04-04-2006, 17:42
ok i wait to evening, and i will ban him if noone write something good for him ;]

Tito
04-04-2006, 19:23
ok i wait to evening, and i will ban him if noone write something good for him ;] dj:closed:

BLUE_SYSTEM
04-04-2006, 22:39
Banned

HeRo-HuNter
04-05-2006, 00:06
I dont play here anymore so i forgot the hack section, now i see it, omg i am so popular 46 replay dld's :D It's just so many things i can argue in your proofs, but i am to lazy to do that, coz i wont play ladder here no more. Just chat, forum, clan wars, mb tourney or some games for fun :) I am glad that i gave you some nice threads to read here GL & HF!!!:p

Ykc
04-05-2006, 00:52
i dont think he is mh. but as u wish ;)

Strumica
04-05-2006, 06:37
Hmm i've seen the replay and its maybe maphack in the begining. Dunno about later ,mb he used some luck ^ ^ Which he have it in every game ?

Red-System
04-05-2006, 09:03
I looked again this replay becouse is meny controversy!! And i think that 2hard2stop4you know how using MH but after this game should get BAN

GoRGi
04-05-2006, 13:13
i agree namcho :smile2:

Bannedacount4mh
04-05-2006, 19:17
Clear game Lmoa

Flash
04-05-2006, 20:52
Clear game Lmoa

Now we dont need opinions. Enough players anylized rep and they pointed every suspicious move. If some1 want to defend 2hard now, explain these moves and point moves which shows he is innocent.

ForgoTAboutMe
04-05-2006, 21:46
i agree namcho :smile2:
:D

HeRo-HuNter
04-06-2006, 13:06
Now we dont need opinions. Enough players anylized rep and they pointed every suspicious move. If some1 want to defend 2hard now, explain these moves and point moves which shows he is innocent.

I could explain everyting, its to easy :) But it wount change enything, i am to lazy to do this work.

S4pPH1roN
04-06-2006, 17:20
I could explain everyting, its to easy :) But it wount change enything, i am to lazy to do this work.

I am not sure if admins r too lazy to bann u ... but its ur will - suit ur self.

HeRo-HuNter
04-06-2006, 20:50
I am not sure that i will get my acc back anyways...

BLUE_SYSTEM
04-06-2006, 20:56
yes, u have small chances, but u should tell us true now. It don't change anything, but ... all want hear it ;]

ForgoTAboutMe
04-06-2006, 21:33
Banned now him
he is good hacker

eXodus
04-07-2006, 01:24
he is good hacker

Look who's talking ?

Hmm, ... The replay shows nothing. You've banned an innocent guy. ( Simply, this replay doesn't contain anything " hard " which will justify your decision. )

Flash
04-07-2006, 01:58
Ok now i wonder- admins vote count as 1 or more? Cuz we have plenty ppl here (including admins) who saw and pointed mh in that game :blink:

i love democracy :p

jxxx
04-07-2006, 03:22
i think ................ i get enough prof's to ban him ....... but it's still my opinon .... and i can give u more prof's if u want :) and if u can deffend ur self ... it can change many !!!! and w/e it's still my opinon which i posted ...

i did my best to make the case clear !!!

Martinus78
04-07-2006, 10:19
Hmm, ... The replay shows nothing. You've banned an innocent guy. ( Simply, this replay doesn't contain anything " hard " which will justify your decision. )


100% agree

_TerrorBlade_
04-07-2006, 13:58
Omg how much this thread will gonna continue? how many times this guy was suspected for mh ?! no mercy ban and gg !

HeRo-HuNter
04-07-2006, 14:19
I didn’t want to do this ****, but since I have nothing to do, I’ll tell some stupid comments. Read and mb you will be reported for mh to!
Lets start...
1. About the wisp: if you see I checked everything and that small hidden spot on the map was empty, I even didn’t looked at that wisp coz it's only some 10% that something can be there, and I go direct to titos base... Nothing special at all!
2. The ****ing fiend harass: I press till the end and why don’t I risk for a 215gold fiend then a 170dh, I could get lucky and escape or at least use a tp. And the DK go out thing? I don’t wait to let him go, I just let DH stand there when doing some work at the base. DK go out wasn’t good for me, coz I came to burn some mana not to go kick fiends.
3. The DH creep jack after healing: if you see I got panda and going creeping with him, why don’t I creep and harass with DH at the same time? So that creep jack at the shop was nothing special at all! (I usualy play like this).
4. The creep jacks was nothing special too, I knew that he was creeping there(when I met him), so much chances that he will have that expo, I checked and found it, then started wisping in the places with the most chances for his expo. So when I saw my wisp down I go and check that place. The main thing in this situation is do everything to not let your enemy get expo!!! I even build hippogryphs for that. No expos=gg !
I hadn’t seen anything strange here at all, just some luck, coz I know what to expect from enemy in this king of games.

Medo
04-07-2006, 22:43
Bravo. :unsure:
ln my Opinion : lm agree with u inQ .. at least lf he is maphacker , he isnt a stupid one :D !! ( joke )
l mean he should get his account back , and Admins focus his next games.
lm one of some ppl feel confusid lf he is mh or not , so thats meaning we cant make sure that he is 100% maphacker , and no enough or direct prooves to ban him.
l hope my opinion is clear Enough

S4pPH1roN
04-07-2006, 23:09
Its just another " OMFG I LOST TO APM-80 GUY - WHAT IS REASON ?" case ... N/C i am tired of this ...

Palec
04-08-2006, 12:10
I'm sorry for refreshing the "old" thread, but I'm less active for some reasons lately and I couldn't add my opinion. I DO respect admins decisions and don't question it. But.. theres always some "but". About this case, hm... If you banned him, you did wrong. I never talked with this guy, never played with him. Some people might say: "Why the **** those guys protect him, bann the *******." You know why I protect him? Cause even If he uses mh. HE HAVEN'T SHOWED IT IN THIS GAME and you shouldn't ban him looking only at this game... Cause it's clear. Those ss that Jxxx attached showes nothing at all. And 2Hard2Stop4You wrote stable arguments. About this wisp... Guys It's like going fast teh by orc, when Fs comes you scout by spirit wolves and going to the mid of the map, later the opposite position If still wolves haven't found the opponent base (same thing with dh+wisps) I could write about other things in this rep, but I guess it's pointless. I don't blame admins, I blame stupid people and even more, their foolish opinions, like _TerrorBlade_ :Omg how much this thread will gonna continue? how many times this guy was suspected for mh ?! no mercy ban and gg ! ... I REALLY hope that you guys (admins) don't suggest of this kind of ****s. Plz close it, once again sorry for re-freshing.

HeRo-HuNter
04-08-2006, 13:43
Guys plz tell will you unlock , coz i dont know should i play on tour tomorow or no. At least let Galvanize play instead of me, even if he is only lvl 24...

eXodus
04-08-2006, 18:46
Hmm, ... I'll unlock your account, 'cause you're innocent.

That's all ... Cheers.

BLUE_SYSTEM
04-08-2006, 18:56
Exodus, you shouldn't do it...(n/c) I banned him, because i have reasons!!! i watched this game 10x and still i think that he had mh, but ok all say: no, so maybe i am wrong. You are unbanned, but if i see 1 suspicious move in your game, so You will get pernament Ban. WAtch out, i will look carefully all ur games... Bye...

ForgoTAboutMe
04-08-2006, 22:47
Exodus, you shouldn't do it...(n/c) I banned him, because i have reasons!!! i watched this game 10x and still i think that he had mh, but ok all say: no, so maybe i am wrong. You are unbanned, but if i see 1 suspicious move in your game, so You will get pernament Ban. WAtch out, i will look carefully all ur games... Bye...
Man pls banned now him he is good hacker
he use %100 mh

Medo
04-08-2006, 23:41
Man pls banned now him he is good hacker
he use %100 mh
Close this thread plz , Forum full of spamers .

S4pPH1roN
04-09-2006, 13:13
Man pls banned now him he is good hacker
he use %100 mh
Banned now him
he is good hacker

seems everyone said what he has in mind and now this is just repeating of same bull**** ... so if no one has nothing to add - mb closing this thread would be nice ?