"skills" or "know how"

[[DoTa]veez]

i have had some really frustrating games last weekend, you are in a team most of the players know how to handle a hero pretty well, the hero's are good together sounds like everything should go well....but than comes lack of view in stragety among the players in ure team...people do not now either they should push def/farm/hunt or..

anyway what do u think is more important ure allies should have, having skills to control a hero or knowing how to play the game..

[viet]

Mb you played in pub game with some unknown ppl ? Or they thought that what they did was true .. whatever. Your "skill " world here isn't exactly its meaning. I think skills comprise already : know doing.
otherwise if dota is a team play,then to know play as a team is much important. But if a player doesn't have a good skill,probably in pushing or def... etc they can't do a good combo/ or they suicide/feeding... it's even worse.

Then here is my conclusion : skill + know-doing are both needed.

[[DoTa]veez]

Mb you played in pub game with some unknown ppl ?

wish that was treu:(

and skill: i mean all the moves u do with mouse and keybord, timings etc..

know how: i mean the stragety part

and ofcourse they both needed but what u prefer most..my vote definatly go's towards know-how, nothing more frustrating than people all doing there own thing in a game...

[Elf]

Well You should make 3rd option ( both ;) ) but for me skill is more important like creeping ( for peoples that dont know by pressing: 's' ) all moves on keboard and mouse your actions with hero every click concentration using hotkey ( normal and on numpad ) its most important. What you can do if you have good hero, good items, good spells, but you dont know when to stun or you are too slow in following this is named SKILL you need to feel the game :) ok PEACE :p

: SKILL

[2pro4u xD]

lol i think skill is more inportant but u need both xD

[devicem]

Definitely both, but instead of making third option u should have make it four:

1: skillz
2: strategy
3: courage(mny i mean mny ppl need this)
4: 1,2,3 together

[jostavo]

hmm
i think skills better thin know how
but i think every game deffrint about another
so i think u do in game what game need or waht ur team need
so if ur good skills u can help ur slef and help ur team
that wil be good :)
BTw my english sux hope u undrstand :)

[ChAoSDeMiGoD]

I think know how is the jey to the victory. :D
Btw, i voted for that. U don't have so skilled player if u know how u should play it u'r gonna hopefully win. :p

[[DoTa]veez]

this is petty extreme example but how does skill help u when u fight with 5 mages vs 5 strengt heros and u don;t know u should push asap...

[ToJira]

Well with 5 melee stre u cant do much against 5 mages..With "skill" u can deny their xp and harrast them all the time so they cant creep and send them 2 fountain..If u want 2 be tactical and creative then u can make necros and burn hell out of them..well thats just 1 example.

Knowing 2 push at the right moment and doinng it, is ur so called SKILL..And skill comes only from experience! and experience u gain from practising and repeating...Knowledge without skill is completely useless, sure u know the basics and u know theoretically what u should do at certain moment but its whole different thing when the real situation occurs...In real situation alot of factors involves and u cant survive with pure knowledge..If a person have a good skill its easy 2 assume that he/she has at least somekind of basic knowledge...Applying knowledge into real situations is SKILL and experience therefore SKILL >>> knowledge!!

[[DoTa]veez]

well "skill" a very broad word, and can be percieved in many ways... and i know and many people also mentioned it before that both are a part of the total package.

i just wonder out of own curiousity what people prefer more among there allies, and what they think is more important...

with skill i meant fast reactions on keyboard and mouse etc..a person who will win a 1v1 situations not cause he has hero prefabilitys but just cause he act faster/better with timings etc.

with know how i mean having experience and personal view (dunno if i translate this correctly) how the game should be played overall

personaly i play rather with a little less player who plays "smart" than with a real killer who gives really crazy commands...

[Sivy]

Originally posted by [DoTa]veez
anyway what do u think is more important ure allies should have, having skills to control a hero or knowing how to play the game..

they should have both :]

[[DoTa]veez]

bleh hate u:P j/k

btw what does the icon with yellow ball with the "x" in the middle before the topic mean?

[Sivy]

i guess it's a poll u already voted in ... but it's just my guess ^^