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oldsense
12-04-2005, 19:32
Lycanthrope

Boots of Travel Buriza
Sange y Yasha Eye of Skadi
Butterfly Monkey King Bar


Boots of Travel to be able to escape and movement speed, Buriza his critical hit plus this, Sange y Yasha movement and speed and able to slow down, Butterfly agility's evasion, movement speed and attack speed,
Eye of Skaddi all you need for mana since you can come back to base for mana very fast and slow down don't remember the other feature, Monkey King Bar more critical hit and GG.

Heart of Tarrasque for Lycanthrope not because he's always able to escape and he's not melee. Battlefury no
because you can farm with your wolves and you're not a creep killer.


Sven

Boots of Travel Sange y Yasha or Cranium Basher
Buriza Black King Bar
Desolator Battlefury


BoT and S & Y for the movement speed and attak speed,
Buriza critical hit, Black King Bar kill with your god's strenght, Desolator minus the armor and Battefury cleaving attak. Maybe you could get Heart of Tarrasque instead of Sange and Yasha.

Vengeful Spirit

Boots of Travel Maelstrom
Desolator Butterfly
Guinsoo Buriza

Maelstrom for creeping and make some extra damages,
Butterfly for agility, and Guinsoo chicken kill.


Dragon Knight

Boots of Travel Battlefury
Eye of Skadi Heart of Tarrasque
Cranium Basher Menkasm or later Buriza

Elf
12-04-2005, 20:00
Nice Topic =)

Phantom Lancer:


1 way ->(As a Nuker and Killer)

Null, RoR, Persevance, Boots, Second Null, Treads, Radiance, Linken Sphere, Sacred Relic, Demon Edge, Aegis, Divine.

Skills: Lance, DoppleWalk, Lance, DoppleWalk, Lance, Ulti, Lance, DoppleWalk, DoppleWalk, Juxstapose, Ulti, Juxstapose, Juxstapose, Juxstapose, Stats, Ulti, Stats, ...
(If i write bad names of skills then sorry but i dont remember it good :D)

This is very good way because ->

Why mana on start? Because his Lance do much damage and slow more than Balanars Void. Why thoose items? Power of PL is hidden in his image. If you have more Damage. then images are more expensive and do more damage.


2 way ->(As a Antimage)

Items: RoB, Boots, Diffusal Blade, Treads, BKB, Manta Style, Dagger, Basher and You can try Buriza for a late game.

Skills: DoppleWalk, Stats, DoppleWalk, Stats, DoppleWalk, Stats, DoppleWalk, Lance, Lance, Lance, Lance, Ulti, Ulti, Stats, Stats, Ulti, Stats, Stats, Stats, Stats, Stats, Juxstapose, Juxstapose, Juxstapose, Juxstapose.
(If i write bad names of skills then sorry but i dont remember it good :D)

Its more expensive than Magina. Worth to try ;)

Gangsta_cro
12-04-2005, 20:22
Phantom Lancer :p

skills same as elf...

Items: Manta style 1 hyper Power treads(PT)
3cranium^^

Elf
12-04-2005, 20:26
3 Bashers? Sucks because you dont use the Images -_- and Their are real power of the Lancer.

Gangsta_cro
12-04-2005, 20:31
Originally posted by Elf
3 Bashers? Sucks because you dont use the Images -_- and Their are real power of the Lancer.


omg did u hear me....
3bashers+hyper(faster copy creation)+MANTA Style(for starting copy)

nuuba :D

Elf
12-04-2005, 20:33
OmG, ... Did you hear me? Images are not Bashing!

Gangsta_cro
12-04-2005, 20:34
Originally posted by Elf
OmG, ... Did you hear me? Images are not Bashing!

omg sry i dindnt know they used to bash b4 :)

oldsense
12-04-2005, 22:41
Steal the item of your oppponent. Some people are not well concerned, they don't buy chickens. When they're buying items in the forest and they have full inventory and you're invisible you can steal his item.

Fanatic
12-05-2005, 12:50
Skeleton King - Treads / 2x nulls / mkb / satanic / aegis / rapier :)
PA - Treads / 3x wraiths / battlefury / helm of dominator / bfly / satanic / aegis / rapiers...

[DoTa]veez
12-05-2005, 13:17
is it me or do thestragetys from first post make totally no sense:confused:

anyway, got new one for skeleton (stole from -drago-:P), first i though it was stupid but it really owns.

boots-->point booster-->ultimat orb--ultimut orb-->skadi

jostavo
12-05-2005, 13:26
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:


ok here is me [[[ magina]]] with .. maskofmadness ,desolator , synga+yasha ,eyeofskadi ,Malestorm
;)

[DoTa]veez
12-05-2005, 13:37
hehe^^

bah u have a 6th slot open for another orb think new one has to be made emediatly:P

devicem
12-05-2005, 14:07
Originally posted by [DoTa]veez
is it me or do thestragetys from first post make totally no sense:confused:



Damn right Veez, I am all confused too. I mean its either u don't know how to read english or u'r total noobs. Some1 mentioned magina and I don't know few other heroes that they have a skill that takes orb effect... u can't have desolator, maelstrom and sange&yasha working all at once.............. Magina's built up shoud be with buriza, basher, skadi, butterfly and radience... ( NO ORB EFFECTS ) Also if the hero doesn't have skill effects u can't make 100 orb effects for him.. GUYS THEY DON'T WORK READ ( orb effects do not stack

[DoTa]veez
12-05-2005, 14:24
huh orb's don;t stack :O u sure??

ff lokken:P











..love sarcasme:D...

ps devicem: u will fase this nooba in tour:P (ure real nick is?)

Gangsta_cro
12-05-2005, 14:25
lifesteal and skadi does :)
only on range

devicem
12-05-2005, 14:37
Originally posted by [DoTa]veez
huh orb's don;t stack :O u sure??

ff lokken:P











..love sarcasme:D...

ps devicem: u will fase this nooba in tour:P (ure real nick is?)

:) are u making fun or u really think they do stack? Cause i'm pretty sure they don't except if they are bugged

1 thing is for sure if we play 6.19b on tour they don't stack 100%

devicem
12-05-2005, 14:46
(ure real nick is?)

Whisp me for dota.... _devicem_ maybe we can have one friendly before tour.....

[DoTa]veez
12-05-2005, 14:54
just having fun..(got boring internship) ;)

sure i'll wisper for game, if i won;t forget, otherwise come too channel clan dota:D

suggestion for magina: ror+2 ciclet at start-->threads+2bracers (if that is how the agility 'null"is called)-->hyperstone(butter if alot of strengt hero's as enemy's)-->eagis (some extra armor rocks on him) -->mkb-->basher

ProfileScorp
12-05-2005, 16:47
devicem, he was joking, can't u see? how do u think he chose only items with orb efect, and hero with orb efect:rolleyes: ?
(btw, u forgot satanic as 6th:p)

sniper's construction: 2 wraights for the begining+boots, power treads, point booster(for later skadi), lothar, eye of skady, buriza, aegis, and maybe divine rapier :D
skills: scattershot, range, then the stun passive
and some strategy for sniper: go middle alone, break their tower, go up, break their tower, go down break their tower, then go middle again break second tower, etc.. :D

jostavo
12-05-2005, 16:53
devicem omg man dont say u blive me :D :D :D

devicem
12-05-2005, 17:52
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D I have nothing else more to say

-Destroyer-
12-06-2005, 15:12
pfff all ****y DREAM-ON items...
well 5 perservance's and 1 boots of travel work for me on nerubian assassin...believe me the best strat i have seen and done :).
lol SNIPER is also my best hero....sniper vs troll...why should they fight eh?
hmmm imba Ultimate Assasinate abuse by Dwarfen Sniper and GG:linkens sphere,guinsoo scythe of vise,boots of travel,and whatever u want...sniper with lvl 16 and with A LOT OF MANA GG guys....its not whos the better or worse hero...its about the player and how does he use them..bla bla...kinda ****y topic IMHO :).

DNH
12-06-2005, 17:46
@scorp: scattershot first? I first max out range because lvl1 scatershot is not that good plus u have little mana... Thanks to superior range u damage them and send your opponent heal, or if they are stupid and u get lvl6 then u have enough mana for scattershot + ulti combo and first frag :]

ProfileScorp
12-06-2005, 20:10
i use it first to make much faster gold, and break the first tower very fast... if u work on passives, u'll creep slower, and i don;'t think this helps the team so much... u say lvl 1 scattershot does low damage... but without lvl 1 u can't get level 2,3,4 scattershot :p... and belive me, lvl 4 scattershot rocks, evan on heroes, that's why i wanna make it fast

diwq
12-08-2005, 12:56
any item build here for razor?

Gangsta_cro
12-08-2005, 21:15
Originally posted by diwq
any item build here for razor?

u can easy :)

1: stygian+buriza+mkb/butterfly depends :p
2: malestrom+Mkb+hyper/buriza depends on u :p
3:buriza+mkb+butterfly+Satanic :o(i like this one cuz i kick ass w/ lifesteal razor :) )

[DoTa]veez
12-09-2005, 12:44
i got a qeustion, does anyone know wich spells linken sphere blocks and wich ones not?? in particulairy roots from echantres and blackhole from emigma.

thx,

veez

jostavo
12-09-2005, 13:29
veez i am sure about ulit tree didnt work on linken
but dont see about ulit engima

Elf
12-09-2005, 14:31
The best vs Enigma ulti is BKB.
But You must use it when he cast ulti.
If you do it before ulti will work ;)

diwq
12-10-2005, 03:28
Originally posted by Gangsta_cro
u can easy :)

1: stygian+buriza+mkb/butterfly depends :p
2: malestrom+Mkb+hyper/buriza depends on u :p
3:buriza+mkb+butterfly+Satanic :o(i like this one cuz i kick ass w/ lifesteal razor :) ) what item is mkb?

Gangsta_cro
12-10-2005, 03:40
Originally posted by diwq
what item is mkb?

lolz

monkey King bar
Demon Edge(2600)+quarterstaff(1150)+scroll(1650)

diwq
12-11-2005, 13:34
ohh nice items i already tested it by playing a solo game for a trial game and whew what a powerful razor that i had as a matter of fact i defeated the lvl 25 creep forgot the name the one that looks like a very big rock golem well can i ask a question again? what items should i buy in the start of the game coz i think ur aware that i cannot buy all of those stuffs in the start of the game having 500+gold in your character so i want to know what starter items should i buy and another question what are the natural hero weaknesses of razor and the weaknesses of razor thanks :)

Elf
12-11-2005, 15:58
There are many ways ;)
You can buy:

RoR + Branch + Scroll = Headres (very good item at start) - for strenght and some agi, same with int.
RoR, Sobi - for strenght that need mana and agi and for a mages, so you can buy it for all
Sobi + Ring = Ring of Basilius - very good item for mages
RoR, circlet, circlet, circlet, branch, branch - only for soul keeper ;)
boots + flask of healing - i dont need to write why :P

And for every ror + branch, sobi etc buy a clarity point or a flask.

oldsense
12-30-2005, 01:47
Ok, last release is enough I think. Check it out!

www.geocities.com/aurora_morial/DotA_Item.zip

Sorry needed to release a newer version, I forgot something.
Hehe! not written in doc about this notice but doesn't matter.

Btw, I deleted the old attachment and I couldn't attach.

oops again some mistakes wait please by main site there will be news.

[DoTa]veez
01-06-2006, 12:00
lol u must be even more bored than i am :o

didn;t read all but some things were extremly funny

"Some trees have holes so you can hide there, buy wards if don't want them to hide there.
When they're too strong stay in your base by fountain don't let them kill you so they
win the game with no killing, Anti-Magina can blink into your Scourge Base where you can
hide just be careful.

Trees are good for camouflage sometimes they can't see but you can use ALT to see if
someone there but good.

If your teammates are heavily losing come and gank help them! Otherwise it will be an
advantage for them.

If their creeps are all over the base get hidden in all trees and buy wards to see if
they coming and escape by portals too."

u actually hantade thes thing ureself:confused:

QuickSilveR
01-06-2006, 16:38
oki doke here is slayer-
Aghanim,Dagon,power treads,hyperstone,soul booster(another one),i dunno this one maybe a stygyan or a linken

DooM-Lizard
01-08-2006, 16:22
U obviously are noob,why do u need mana,plz dont tell me u learn wolves....pfff hahahaah u suck.Lycanthrope is one of the 10 strongest heroes in dota.First u should learn attribute bonuses and feral hearth.And why boots of travel when power treads grant 30% attack speed.I agree with butterfly,but instead of Monkey and burizza,get 2 bashers and u have near permabash.S & Yasha are certainly right choice,u dont need boots of travel.Plz if ur tactics suck like this one,dont post any of them.it is embarasiing.

QuickSilveR
01-08-2006, 16:43
Originally posted by DooM-Lizard
U obviously are noob,why do u need mana,plz dont tell me u learn wolves....pfff hahahaah u suck.Lycanthrope is one of the 10 strongest heroes in dota.First u should learn attribute bonuses and feral hearth.And why boots of travel when power treads grant 30% attack speed.I agree with butterfly,but instead of Monkey and burizza,get 2 bashers and u have near permabash.S & Yasha are certainly right choice,u dont need boots of travel.Plz if ur tactics suck like this one,dont post any of them.it is embarasiing.

You say to not learn wolves as a skill???i really am sorry about you but you are noob,very noob

DooM-Lizard
01-08-2006, 23:05
WELL STYGIAN IS ONE OF THE BEST ITEMS IN THE BEGINIG,WHEN HEROES HAVE ABOUT 4-8 ARMOR.BUT IN LATE GAME ,STYGIAN IS POOR ****.WHAT CAN HE DO? AND STILL PEOPLE BUY IT ON 20th LEVEL AND UP.AND WHAT IS WITH BUYING IT TO TROLL???LOL ONLY NOOBS DO THAT-BASHERS ARE MADE FOR TROLL.!!!!!!!!

Vas
01-09-2006, 00:17
Man why u write in caps adn open so mayn new threads,just plz dont spam-i hope u know what this mean now

kijciwoko
01-09-2006, 00:39
Yeah, you are right - stygian is best at level 2, maybe 3. Later its piece of ****.

DooM-Lizard
01-09-2006, 00:57
Originally posted by Vas
Man why u write in caps adn open so mayn new threads,just plz dont spam-i hope u know what this mean now


i write in caps to make it sound more convincing.

Haitham
01-09-2006, 01:11
Ffs... One thing i noticed, you bring for Magina real suckin' items!

Some rules on some DotA heroes:

1) Slardar (Slithireen Guard): PT >> 5 Bashers. [100% Bash, what more?].

2) Magina (Anti-mage): PT >> 5 Bashers. [Almost each hit = Bash).

devicem
01-09-2006, 01:23
Originally posted by DooM-Lizard
i write in caps to make it sound more convincing.

but it's not, what is more u sound like big noob who pretends to be best xpam pro... if u have suggestion for heroes builds post it in the " item builds&some strategy" thread i'm sure u'll be heard there ;)

1 more thing if u havn't figured out what spam means just don't make new threads every sec and u'll know what it means :eek:

Elf
01-09-2006, 02:00
devicem napisał(a)
but it's not, what is more u sound like big noob who pretends to be best xpam pro... if u have suggestion for heroes builds post it in the " item builds&some strategy" thread i'm sure u'll be heard there ;)

1 more thing if u havn't figured out what spam means just don't make new threads every sec and u'll know what it means :eek:

Agreed - Thread Moved. :p

glop2
01-13-2006, 14:46
I dont understand this thread. All are item builds which would rox in 3v3 -ar game after 60 minutes of playing. Do you really enjoy this kind of games??

For most heroes I would buy :

- basilius as 1st item for its great brillance and devotion auras
- boots, then powertreads
- perseverence : never come back to base, always try to gain XP.
- mekanism for its armor, regen, +5 to all stats (better than nulls or bracers IMHO) and great team support
- a chicken, cause its stupid to come back to base with 1/3 HP to buy some expensive item when all opposing team is dead : better to push and gain XP, and retreat before dying from towers, creeps or just revived heroes.

After that, I would buy items specific to my hero and to ennemy's heroes :

- lothar if they got some slowing or very fast heroes (drow, venom, naix, balanar, wolf, etc...)

- one or more blademails if they got strong melee heroes (chaos knight, ursa, sven, etc...)

- dagger if I got AOE ulti or stun (panda, maiden, centaur, magnus, etc...)

- guinsoo for most intell

- battlefury for most melee (cheap, and so many abilities in one slot)

- attack speed : midas, MKB or Hyper for heroes who got critical (leoric, mortred, gondar, etc... and especially Juggernaut, cause he will perform more strikes during omnislash)

- for all heroes : BKB or Linken if they got many disablers

- manta for all agi or str which dont have orb effect

And rarely buy potions or TP at the beginning of the game, as they are really expensive at this moment, and u dont need them if you farm without beeing hit by creeps, and look well at minimap to prevent gangbang.

Alladin
01-13-2006, 22:22
necrobook mast have.

Elf
02-01-2006, 06:49
Refreshing Thread.