uD v.s Orc

[UnDeaD)RoX]

Can some1 tell me some good tack vs orc.
Sure i'm playing ud and sometimes orc.
I think vs orc the ud must make fast destro but...
I'm always playing vs orc with destroyers but when he will build 10/12 bets then its so hard to mirco them.
What you think?At last time i have problems vs orcs.
Maybe the real solution is with fiends/destro but i need a little help from you all.Help?

[PrisonerOfLies]

Hmm going destroyers when enemy goes T3 and has Fortified
Burows is pretty dangerous for orc imo

[slave]

maybe you should change the play style vs orc and go ghoul/fast tech to destro instead of wasting money on spiders than tech and destro?i mean, watch 4k-fov hes my personal star player of the undeads and makes ghouls + good micro which helps him get faster to tier3 and if enemy starts making wyvren riders you just make some 2-3 spiders with web and faster u have destro, faster u kill the wywern riders. if he starts massing batriders make some 6-7 spiders with web and focus nova on the batriders cause they all go in groups and u make splash more which slows them down even more and gives u time to micro a destroyer.

[Tito]

Originally posted by slave
maybe you should change the play style vs orc and go ghoul/fast tech to destro instead of wasting money on spiders than tech and destro?i mean, watch 4k-fov hes my personal star player of the undeads and makes ghouls + good micro which helps him get faster to tier3 and if enemy starts making wyvren riders you just make some 2-3 spiders with web and faster u have destro, faster u kill the wywern riders. if he starts massing batriders make some 6-7 spiders with web and focus nova on the batriders cause they all go in groups and u make splash more which slows them down even more and gives u time to micro a destroyer. but ud]rox have no 4k.furys micro :D :D

[UnDeaD)RoX]

Originally posted by O_o_O
but ud]rox have no 4k.furys micro :D :D

Yeah , but u should help me not to write bull ****s !

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[S4pPH1roN]

watch replays and listen to slave cuz he told u everything important alrdy (at least i think so) :D

[Sky][RunneR-]

Originally posted by slave
maybe you should change the play style vs orc and go ghoul/fast tech to destro instead of wasting money on spiders than tech and destro?i mean, watch 4k-fov hes my personal star player of the undeads and makes ghouls + good micro which helps him get faster to tier3 and if enemy starts making wyvren riders you just make some 2-3 spiders with web and faster u have destro, faster u kill the wywern riders. if he starts massing batriders make some 6-7 spiders with web and focus nova on the batriders cause they all go in groups and u make splash more which slows them down even more and gives u time to micro a destroyer.

exactly:o :o

[moguzsen]

Originally posted by UnDeaD)RoX
Yeah , but u should help me not to write bull ****s !

I think massing fiend and blocking the front with crypt lord seems much easier. (at least needs less micro :) )

But I am not certain it is so much efficent or not.

[Costin_Razvan]

Originally posted by moguzsen
I think massing fiend and blocking the front with crypt lord seems much easier. (at least needs less micro :) )

But I am not certain it is so much efficent or not. Crypt lord isnt good , just get death knight + mass necro and mass ghoul , get ranger at tier 2 and gg and if he gets windriders just get spiders with web and if u dont win that way go to tier 3 get lich with nova and destro

[moguzsen]

Originally posted by Costin_Razvan
Crypt lord isnt good , just get death knight + mass necro and mass ghoul , get ranger at tier 2 and gg and if he gets windriders just get spiders with web and if u dont win that way go to tier 3 get lich with nova and destro

Mass necro??? Well I never saw a ud player massing necro against orc. (at least FoV doesn' t mass necro :D )
As well as I know the only medium melee can stand against grunts is huntress. (that' s why huntress+warden can be deadly if orc doesn' t train trolls or raiders) (don't tell me huntress isn't melee, I accept her as melee. You should get what I mean ;) ) So massing ghouls is risky, needs good micro.

[Costin_Razvan]

How much does a ghoul cost ? 120 gold while a grunt cost 200 and ghouls train faster , u may lose many but no matter with rod of necromacy + mass necro + ranger and 2 statues its gg and in case he gets fortified burrows just get a few meat wagons

[MrCarlo]

Do a standard fiend stat build, then tech to destroyers. A good orc will get grunt raider/wyvern. Learn to micro your fiends well by burrowing and coiling them (watch replays) to prevent them from dying. Avoid engaging if he is a pro, otherwise try a tier 2 push. Tip: Grunts cant be microed when they are novaed, so nova then ff killing the grunts one by one (Finish off with coil offensively if possible).

After you get destroyers either attack or expand and get aboms. You will win in the long run as tier3 UD>tier3 orc. If he gets tauren (u must scout) quickly build temples and get master banshees=thank you for free tauren :)

There's a good article on www.warcraftstrategy.com about how to fight orc with ud written by "TheKingArthas". Click on 1v1 under the strategy column on the left.