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Terrorboy
7th October 2005, 12:48 AM
I have question about fighting Rifles vs Destro+Abominations. Let's say, I have AM+ strong MK, 2 sorceress, 3-4 adept priests, and mass 2/2 long rifles army (12 or more pump from 2 raxs).....each hero keep scroll of healing and potion of invulnerability/or TP. He is tier3 without expo, me only 2 with expo, so gryphins are unavalaible. He has DK-Lich (or CL 3rd). He makes ghouls + mass statues so I switch to mass rifles and make expo. He tech to tier 3, I make expo and stay on tier2 and harras him. Ussually when he see mass rifles he add 3-4 abominations to his army.My main question is which target is better to FF: destroyers (they take extra damage from rifles and make reduce to them, but can easily run and heal), or abominations (they take reduce damage from rifles and make extra to them, but I can bolt them and they cant run easily). What u think guys? Or how human gosu play in this situation?

PS. Dont write me about mass expo/towers/siege coz I am bored of this and belive with good micro human is able to win this matchup with Riflecasters.

slave
8th October 2005, 02:09 AM
sorcerors u wont need a lot , cause of danger getting devoured and pump mana to destros aka extra damage. sorcerors can be useful in making invisible units/heros for later use. if u have a level 3-4 archmage , and enemy has destros, never play with water elements-devour destros extra dmg. stick to this tactic i;ve seen from SK.Insomnia(fav human player). go to nearby shop, buy tome of retraining and if u have level.4 AM take twice blizzard,twice aura. a solid level 3 MK will hold on a big battle(always have scroll of healing and invulnerabilty). the big moment yet to come. before entering a war, spell invisibility on the MK and get inside the abominations. 1st. ThunderClap 2nd. Cast blizzard over the abominations in this situation-surrounding your MK, and asap press potion of invulnerability so while in war, cast the blizzard over your MK . he will be fast gg'ed ,and micro will do a lot,dispelling the sceltors will be useful,and in the worse cases, call 4-5 militia nearby and force him to TP out( remember u have the economy advantage and 2 barracks)

Terrorboy
8th October 2005, 09:36 AM
I know slow is not good vs destro, but can help a lot at tier 2.
U can even kill sorceress later by yourself and make other units on thier place. But if he has lots of land army, they can help. But my main question is what units u try to kill 1st with rifles, Destroyers or Abominations?>

slave
8th October 2005, 12:17 PM
ofc you will first shoot the destros.doesnt matter if he will heal or not, but when u have 12 rifles++ 2/2 pumped out, he wont do a lot with his coil.if he hides his destros behind, i mean if he backs his destros and lets his abos in between ur rifles , just step back the riflemans and clap with the MK, temporary they will be slow and cast blizzard. for holding the front a bit more its useful to have 3/4 spellbreaks , so u wont damage them with blizzard,and it will be useful to take some mana from DK/Lich(more important to me cause he deals a lot more damage with the ice nova than the DK, who hits a single target)