Defense Authorisation Bill 2012 passed...

[DragonSlayer]

I wanted to discuss about the latest humanity's epic fail.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/12/05/the-national-defense-authorization-act-is-the-greatest-threat-to-civil-liberties-americans-face/

and
http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au/how-the-defense-authorisation-bill-proves-power-corrupts/2011/12/21/

finally the youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWApGqE_T-k&feature=player_embedded

To those who don't know whats that, long story short: they trying to push the law that allows them to "capture you, put you in prison and torture/interrogate you every day for the rest of your life. They don’t have to charge you with murder or jay-walking or any crime at all. They don’t have to let you talk to a lawyer. Or to your spouse. Or to your Congressman... They don’t have to read you your rights or provide any evidence against you. Like the Argentines in the ’80s, they just ‘disappear’ you. And you’re gone forever." They can do that to pretty much everyone they want. Even worldwide.

Media stay silent about this.
The only hope in Obama veto but i don't see it happen.

Discuss...

[mrniceguy]

Well did not that happen to afgani ppl already? How many innocent ppl were locked in Guantanamo?

Power to the ppl!!!!!

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[[RO]Claudiu]

Terrorists = anyone who is against the system, who will reject being exploited, who will reject a life of slavery in the monetary system, so yeah as far as they are concerned there are a lot of terrorists out there.

The "war on terror" does not exist, you can't declare war on something that exists only as a concept, there is however a war on the PEOPLE.

Obama is the most obvious puppet in the history of politics, all he said during the campaign he did the opposite after he was elected.

I don't know what to say, its shocking... As long as humans use technology and knowledge in the purpose of destruction i believe they will arrive at a point of self destruction.

This is beyond sad... if this law passes both The Venus Project and The Zeitgeist Movement will be crushed and there will be less hope for a civil progress in the future. Society will be rolled back to the dark ages or even worse.

The biggest problem is the mass media that infuses the masses with fake terrorism and makes them want to have this law. If the population would wise up to the propaganda and stop watching the cursed televised indoctrination then there will be hope.

[mrniceguy]

Ye man the new RESIDENT EVIL has just began.

[Herr]

Claudiu;1431167']Terrorists = anyone who is against the system, who will reject being exploited, who will reject a life of slavery in the monetary system, so yeah as far as they are concerned there are a lot of terrorists out there.

The "war on terror" does not exist, you can't declare war on something that exists only as a concept, there is however a war on the PEOPLE.

Obama is the most obvious puppet in the history of politics, all he said during the campaign he did the opposite after he was elected.

I don't know what to say, its shocking... As long as humans use technology and knowledge in the purpose of destruction i believe they will arrive at a point of self destruction.

This is beyond sad... if this law passes both The Venus Project and The Zeitgeist Movement will be crushed and there will be less hope for a civil progress in the future. Society will be rolled back to the dark ages or even worse.

The biggest problem is the mass media that infuses the masses with fake terrorism and makes them want to have this law. If the population would wise up to the propaganda and stop watching the cursed televised indoctrination then there will be hope.



I'm so sick of this already, that I've been for now over a year without watching news programs or reading news.

For sure the television provides also decent entertainment, so sometimes I still watch some movies etc.

It can sound somewhat radical but I live in my own world now :thumbUP: Praised be who does same.

[[RO]Claudiu]

I'm so sick of this already, that I've been for now over a year without watching news programs or reading news.

For sure the television provides also decent entertainment, so sometimes I still watch some movies etc.

It can sound somewhat radical but I live in my own world now :thumbUP: Praised be who does same.

I also live in my own world but due to certain events it becomes smaller. Entertainment(including drugs, alcohol,etc.) has the purpose to distract our attention away from the miserable reality in which we live. We wouldn't need entertainment if the world was a wonderful place or at least if we weren't forced to submit to the laws of a highly malfunctioning,corrupt and defective social system. My way is to live in reality, accept the pain and convert it into something useful not just for me but for everyone else.

[mrniceguy]

Claudiu I have a question for you:

Do you have a job?

[[RO]Claudiu]

Claudiu I have a question for you:

Do you have a job?

That's not what this topic was made for, I'll give you a PM.
Got nothing to hide btw :D

[mrniceguy]

I m asking you cause, you have not seen what real problems are. When you get occupied by a job and when u get screwd cause you r doing your job good then you will realise that you dont have time to think about things your thinking at the moment.

Thats all.

Big respect with HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

[[RO]Claudiu]

I m asking you cause, you have not seen what real problems are. When you get occupied by a job and when u get screwd cause you r doing your job good then you will realise that you dont have time to think about things your thinking at the moment.

Thats all.

Big respect with HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

Happy New Year! and yeah you're right but it depends on what kind of job you do. Not all jobs are time demanding and not all people work for a living but they still have a job ^^ their job consists of having a job but doing no labor. I gave you an idea in the PM of what my sources of income are and you can see that none of my "jobs" are time demanding, this way i have time to think about the more important things, i have time to plan about how to make my life better and to be in the position where i can help others. Im against mindless labor for the benefit of an employer or a politician, i like to work for myself.

But anyway that is an interesting theory, im not a person with tunnelvision, i lost tunnelvision since i started to play 5v5 arena in world of warcraft :D like 3-4 years ago give me a example of a job that would take such a big part of my life(time) that i would forget about why its taking such a big part of my life. In fact if something did take years of my life for the benefit of an industry or employer i'd think about how to escape the situation even more and due to the suffering and shackles that bind me to it i'd be even more determined and aware.