How do i beat 2 Orcs with BM?

[TP_MoonStar]

Guys i need help in this. i'm playing AT now with a friend i Night him human. we play 3 times vs 2 orcs and we lose all 3 games. omg how do i kill 2 Blade masters ? they both come and kill my peons and my ally acolite.
then when we start 2 make army they have 2 shadow shaman with heal and its impossible 2 kill!!! how do i win this? please i really need help..

thanks

[Naddar]

dust,
shades,
sleep (usefull too)

i never lose before vs 2 BM xD

[slave]

easy cash~
ur human friend will make 1-2 psychic towers to drain mana and move his peasants arround towers for the bm's to lose mana and go home.
if they come to you just micro on the wisps with the gold mine

[[1]kaiser]

NE - detonate, mana burn, dust, entangle
UD - sleep, dust, nerubian
HU - arcane tower, mountain king, dust
ORC - hex, burrows, another blade... maybe stromp...

and micro is for all 4 races the most important thing...
towers too... :D

[Wolf_Elemental2]

BM is the total imba in the game... I think BeastMaster with Hawk to reveal invisible can be useful, also BloodMage with Banish and Siphon Mana. But these are only heroes, what army they make? :]

[TP_MoonStar]

of of then made ground with shamans and grunts +taurens.
and the other made air with doctor curing. =/

[RC_PEon_King]

u need dispell
and dust and high hp heroes

[[elf]Drizzit]

Just attack him with ur friend and he will tp.
He probably wont have an army...

[4N-Nooby]

Originally posted by slave
easy cash~
ur human friend will make 1-2 psychic towers to drain mana and move his peasants arround towers for the bm's to lose mana and go home.
if they come to you just micro on the wisps with the gold mine

REALLY GOOOOD THINKING ! :D

[4N-Nooby]

Also don`t put ur Wisps just in ur base MAN ! put few wisps somewhere on the man(Close to eventual Expo) or Put them in ur friends Base !!!! .... Do something ! Anyway u need have Great micro if u wanna play with NE in AT Vs 2x Orcs !!!! gl

[Terrorboy]

I practise a lot vs orc with human, counter to BM is: MK with bolt, arcane tower, magic sentry, dust of apparence, Beastmaster with hawk and to keep heroes alive use invisibility (potion or sorceress spell) and Palladin to heal as 3rd hero could be, potions of healing and immortality also help a lot:) but on EI this hero is hard to beat;(

edit: I forgot sweet Gyrocopters;D

GL HF

[FlashGordon]

I think he means that the 2 BM doing harras right at the begining of the game
anyway if u NE u can put those owls on the trees with huntress, they reveal invisible , with human just put 2 towers near gold mine that drain mana belive me he will go out of your base very fast

[Terrorboy]

No, he has also problems in later game:
we start 2 make army they have 2 shadow shaman with heal and its impossible 2 kill BM isnt so hard hero to kill, there are other heroes harder to kill at higher lvl, like DH or DK, problem is they make windwalk and runaway from battle to heal, so make hawk or dust of apperence!!

And problem is to survive to tier 2 (at least for humans), dont let him make high lvl and kill your hero, and fast powercreep to lvl2 AM is important!!

The best put replay here, and we will be able to see what's wrong and how we can help :)

[RazorBlade]

Originally posted by slave
easy cash~
ur human friend will make 1-2 psychic towers to drain mana and move his peasants arround towers for the bm's to lose mana and go home.
if they come to you just micro on the wisps with the gold mine

its impossible to micro wisps with gold mines against bm. . he strikes out of wind walk and then he needs another 2 hits. . u dont have time even to move ur wisp....if the bm is out of mana he can still kill ur wisps fast. ..so u need some army in base .. .demon hunter with mana burn its the best to keep in base. . or 2-3 hunts. . he will flee.. . . .as for human its very hard to creep and keep the am alive against 2 bm.......the only chance is u to go together at creeping. . .and then attack one of them in base . . after 5-6 footmen and 5 hunts...