N0TD and 5013 join forces once again !

[[Grimfeast]]

In cooperation with our friends of 5013, we will adapt their blacklist in the near future. This means that all players in the list will not be allowed to join our games.

This enables 5013 as well as N0TD to add names to this joint list.

Chieftain and Shamans can add names without permission, other members can add names with the proper proof.

The main reason for this merge is to counteract all players that oppose proper gameplay.

A note to Syrus, who's still part of this list, it is advisable to offer your apologies to the 5013 chieftain in W3...

[Lda]

There can be made official appologize which will be considered by clan leading at Lda@clan5013.com, MCStyle@clan5013.com or Zubik@clan5013.com

Latest blacklist u can check on the www.clan5013.com
/GALLERY/BLACKLIST session.

And in the near future on volny.cz/clannotd as well.

Have a nice day.

[Syrus]

One thing is that i will NOT apologize for something that is not my fault. Lda started ...
If that means to kick me , fine. But i will not be used as a puppy who apologizes for "someone's pleasure"

[Drahxx0rz]

that's nice news, I will try to remember any special *******s that I come across in games, but I won't count the idiots that play dota, cuz that would make a looooooooong list :P

anyways, good initiative.

[WarS0ul]

Ye i agree a joined black list will be a great idea ... all the annoying ppl out there will be black listed and wont be able to bother us honest ppl :p .

[Drahxx0rz]

Syrus, since you aren't willing to resolve this rather trivial issue in a mature manner I'm going to have to say that you are from this moment removed from clan n0td.

-Drakh

[Syrus]

This is not trivial issue coz LDA so called mighty chieftain of clan 5013 attacked me when i tried to help.

ok let's have little example
Someone tells me to do something(he tried to help me in some issue), i freak out i kick him in the head coz i do not want that ppl tells me what to do..., that man beats crap out of me. Is it in my option to ask apologize from his side??!? I think not ,i think that i should apologize to him coz i attacked him and started this all issue and i should apologize to him.

Anyway i have no respect for LDA and i don't think he is good cheiftain coz he is too easily provoked but nevertheless i don't know him any better so i shall not judge him any more

I am on blacklist, ok i dont deserve respect, why? coz i tried to help? Ok it's too ofendable for me that he even putted me on blacklist , if i ever on purpose did someone something wrong and screwed game and if i am screwing notd gaming around etc.. then i really don't deserve respect


Mature hmm.. ok i shall gladly accept my removal from this clan coz i see that everyone here listens to only one man and i don't want to be in "corrupted" community where newcomer always is treated as ******* and with no respect from some "big" ppl. I shall unsubscribe from this forum right now and that's it, one thing i will not to ever is apologize for something that is not my fault.

Now i say greettings to all ppl which i have played with and i respect them all and they know who they are and i enjojed playing with them


Good bye ppl! nice playing with ya

[[Grimfeast]]

For making it clear:

U werent "banned" from the clan... Just removed until further notice. You are welcome to join the clan again, and i have no personal grudges.

The alliance between N0TD and 5013 was there when N0TD began.

So i think it is important we all contribute in being tolerant to eachother. People know me as never to start an agruement, avoiding discussions etc.

There are other ways of ending an discussion instead of leaving.

1.Say nothing and play
2.Squelch the abuser or people who annoy you
3.Report discussions to the chieftain so he knows what its all about.

People should place their pride aside and be friendly at all times. I know some of you have problems doing just that.

Therefor an apology shouldnt be entirely about the conflict, but just to forget it happened and carry on.

That's how i see it....

[Syrus]

Well tx Grim, i forgot about situation that until one day war "banned" me from his games, i wasn't coming after he told me i am banned, then this **** happens all coz lda has ordered him LOL(are we in army?). I will not join again this clan coz i have been so easily "trashed away" coz i am newcomer to PVPGN bnet

I thougt ppl play this map coz of fun and not coz of proving their alll soo mighty lol power but it wasn't so effective on me lol.

Well i will surely continue to play until i finish this map, then..i'll start owning fluffies hehe..again..and with style ;)

Cya until next game ;)

[[Grimfeast]]

Originally posted by Syrus
I thougt ppl play this map coz of fun and not coz of proving their alll soo mighty lol power but it wasn't so effective on me lol.


I totally agree! But a leader in a game (which can even be a private if he really wants), can give you "orders" on how to play. His job is to get his team as far as possible. Ofcourse, he can't force you to do stuff, but it is advisible that you do listen. If you don't agree with someone, just suggest what is better and use civil arguements. If the conflict stays and the swearing starts, don't say anything anymore, and do what u think is best.
If he tells you u can't join anymore of his games, tell your chieftain. Then i will hear out both sides and try to work it out.

I'll be honest with ya, I dont know why you are on 5013's list and what conflict caused it. If you don't tell me, we cant work it out and get u off that list.

I say again; you aren't on the list in N0TD as on 5013. I was hoping you'd be on there temporarily.

If you decide to be a freelancer, fine by me, i cant force you to come back... I just hate putting people of my clan in the list. It says someting about my lacking conflict-solving skills :).

[Lda]

As I said in this thread (http://w3.xpam.de/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10386)
Syrus has been blacklisted coz of his aggressive and no-respect behaving.
I had reports from many my friends from w3 channel which isnt in clans that he is aggressive and intruding many ppl.
And when he intruded me. Which i considered like disrespect to "player" at all. I and leading of clan 5013 considered to blacklist him.
And at the last i didnt insult SSyrus. Its only some nonsense and sweet words which he want to clear his actions.

[Syrus]

one thing is that i agree that i hate playing with noobs coz in this past 3 weeks at least i have been shivaed, chained , clayed, rocketed , GLed and all other stuff in good games so i always put my game name "only pro" or something like that and i kick noobs yes. In my game i want order if i am leading. Noobs usuallyy screw this up. And u lda when i tried to help(coz i have been burned by firebats in past few games)when i saw u FIRST in notd u started acting agressive and yelling at me.

Using kind words lol... i do not need that coz most ppl from this forum knows me from game and they already know how am i acting in most situations so .. .. just lol

Remove me from blacklist or don't but i really don't care and i will not tolerate some "ultra-so-called-pros" yelling at me when i try to help

[Lda]

Hahaha you making me laugh man... You even cant see to your mouth...
Look if u saying "i tried help" ok its your oppinion.
But when u are calling all noobs around which u are see for first time... hmm than smell with arrogancy... anyway if u "tried help" u did it with very bad manners.

[Syrus]

Again u are starting lda....

I will not replay to your posts anymore

P.S Grimmy i think ALL members should have proof of abusing or something similiar so that shamans don't make "use" of their pos

[CrazyShorti]

Originally posted by Syrus


P.S Grimmy i think ALL members should have proof of abusing or something similiar so that shamans don't make "use" of their pos

TOTALLY AGREED!!! I DON'T WANT TO START TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN 5013 WHEN I WAS IN (just before i came out)

[Drahxx0rz]

I think enough has been said on the subject, grimmy care to close this thread?

[[Grimfeast]]

Yupz, ur right.